Will the laws of nature still apply in heaven?

Started by DC, January 09, 2011, 10:28:59 PM

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DC

I think that there still needs to be natural law in heaven.  I think that just because we're face-to-face with God now doesn't mean that we should be able to ask him to use his omnipotent powers to do crazy things like time travel, making an exact duplicate of someone's soul that has the same memories, ect., because I think that having the ability to do things like that can be very dangerous.  I think that certain things still need to be considered "scientifically impossible" in heaven in order to protect people from themselves.  I know that there will be know pain or sadness in heaven, it's just that I would feel safer if I had assurance that God would never allow people to use his omnipotent powers to do crazy things.

So, what I'm asking is, are there any scriptures that support that there will still be some natural law in heaven?

CHB

DC, I don't think you have anything to worry about, everything is going to be done according to God's will not ours and you can be assured that whatever he does will be for our benefit and for the good of all.

CHB

thinktank

If someone is doing evil in heaven they would be cast out into the earth, just like the devil.

If God has standards on earth how much more in heaven?

Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: DC on January 09, 2011, 10:28:59 PM
I think that there still needs to be natural law in heaven.  I think that just because we're face-to-face with God now doesn't mean that we should be able to ask him to use his omnipotent powers to do crazy things like time travel, making an exact duplicate of someone's soul that has the same memories, ect., because I think that having the ability to do things like that can be very dangerous.  I think that certain things still need to be considered "scientifically impossible" in heaven in order to protect people from themselves.  I know that there will be know pain or sadness in heaven, it's just that I would feel safer if I had assurance that God would never allow people to use his omnipotent powers to do crazy things.

So, what I'm asking is, are there any scriptures that support that there will still be some natural law in heaven?

Well, if heaven has any resemblance to life here, you bet I'm gonna ask if I can time travel, explore existance itself and a number of other things.  I am crazy and I like it.  ;)


WhiteWings

DC,

Timetravel is inferior stuff. God can't/doesn't timetravel because He in every time at the same time. :winkgrin:
If heaven is the same as earth then there was no point for Jesus to die. If everything was teh same as on earth the new skills would be used to for more advanced warfare.


TT: Aren't you broken bones healed yet?  :winkgrin:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

PaoloNuevo

I think when all will be consummated in Christ (Eph. 1: 10) there will still be "laws" that we might adhere to but God's law will be written in our hearts already...

When God is All in All, all will be made as perfect as He is.

CHB

I may be wrong but I don't believe there will be any laws. Laws have consequences and punishments. I don't think there will be a need for any laws.

CHB

Nathan

actually . . .there will be two laws.  Jesus brought the kingdom of heaven to earth and with him came the fulfillment of natural religious law so that spiritual law could make the transition.  It was "because" of this spiritual law that God sent and Jesus came, died and most importantly, he resurrected.  It's based on God's government . . .which is simply . . .love.  Love God and love each other.  For God so loved that he gave.

Keep in mind that his ways are so out there from our ways.  In fact, the more I get into this, the more evident it becomes.  And that is, when you take what you think is the logical thing, the most reasonable explanation, and simply turn it upside down, "then" you come close to seeing how the kingdom of heave operates.  First becomes last, least becomes greatest.  Instead of punching someone back who punched me first, I turn the other cheek . . .it makes no sense to love my enemies, but these are the ways of the kingdom based on the law of love. 

He prayed that his kingdom in the spirit would manifest in this kingdom on earth . . .love is the manifestation, the evidence that Jesus' prayer is being answered since the day he first uttered the words "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on this earth . . .as it already is in heaven.

thinktank

Quote from: WhiteWings on January 11, 2011, 08:43:51 AM

TT: Aren't you broken bones healed yet?  :winkgrin:

No lucky for me I landed right on top of someones big belly, the guy was built like a tank, I looked around and I saw windmills and tulips, I think the guy was from Holland. After I got up I heard him blaspheming the holy spirit, saying how the spirit don't exist, that voice he heard to 'get out of the way' was just an illusion a mistranslation. I thought this must be my lucky day, not only he broke my fall, but now I have got him to be unforgiven in this age and the next age.

Was I too harsh?, but the devil don't play nice  :winkgrin:

micah7:9

Will the laws of nature still apply in heaven?

No.

Nathan

 :boydance: :iagree: :angelharp: :banana: :2thumbs: :Party:


PA-HAARR-TAY!!!

WhiteWings

Quote from: thinktank on January 12, 2011, 02:22:36 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 11, 2011, 08:43:51 AM

TT: Aren't you broken bones healed yet?  :winkgrin:
No lucky for me I landed right on top of someones big belly
So you were saved by satan?  :winkgrin:
Quote, the guy was built like a tank, I looked around and I saw windmills and tulips,
Sounds like Helmond.
QuoteI think the guy was from Holland.
In that case ít wasn't me because I wasn't born in Holland.
QuoteI thought this must be my lucky day, not only he broke my fall,
So you are a fallen demon. I bet you live downtown  :icon_jokercolor:
Quotebut now I have got him to be unforgiven in this age and the next age.
For your information TT; those that decieve the sheep shall suffer the same doom.
QuoteWas I too harsh?, but the devil don't play nice  :winkgrin:
It was just a test TT. You failed. I told you Jabacat! TT is all bad fruit. Now ban him :laughing7:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

jabcat

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

thinktank

Quote from: WhiteWings on January 12, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: thinktank on January 12, 2011, 02:22:36 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 11, 2011, 08:43:51 AM

TT: Aren't you broken bones healed yet?  :winkgrin:
No lucky for me I landed right on top of someones big belly
So you were saved by satan?  :winkgrin:
So you admit it  :winkgrin:
Quote, the guy was built like a tank, I looked around and I saw windmills and tulips,
Sounds like Helmond.
QuoteI think the guy was from Holland.
In that case ít wasn't me because I wasn't born in Holland.
I didn't land on a baby though  :laughing7:
QuoteI thought this must be my lucky day, not only he broke my fall,
So you are a fallen demon. I bet you live downtown  :icon_jokercolor:
Perhaps we are all fallen demons, there is a case for it .eg. Judas is called a demon, the pharisses are told that their father is the devil.
Quotebut now I have got him to be unforgiven in this age and the next age.
For your information TT; those that decieve the sheep shall suffer the same doom.
The part of the deception was saying you were unforgiven, the other part is true in my personal experience.
QuoteWas I too harsh?, but the devil don't play nice  :winkgrin:
It was just a test TT. You failed. I told you Jabacat! TT is all bad fruit. Now ban him :laughing7:

If the test is to find out if I'm a demon Trouble is you will have to be banned too based on the answer too question 1 :laughing7: