some scriptures use "destroy" in a different way to how moderns see it

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It is important to recognize that some scriptures use "destroy" in a different way from that which the modern person thinks of it. We think of destruction as annihilation, or we think of it as smashing something in such a way that it is rendered useless. It's original form has been altered. Sometimes "destroy" is used in the New Testament in the sense of refining something, so that the original form is altered to a purified form. Consider the following passage from I Peter 1:3-6 ESV and verse 7, in another translation:

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials...

Verse 7
... in order that the proving of your faith, much more valuable than gold that is being destroyed through fire and being proved , may be found for praise and glory and honour at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Greek word for "destroyed" here is the same word as the one in Matthew 10:28. Some translations translated the word here as "perishes".

Notice it is the proving of your faith which is much more valuable than the proving of gold. Peter speaks of "gold that is being destroyed through fire". Now we know that gold is not annihilated or even destroyed in the sense of being rendered useless (such as a toy that is destroyed by smashing it). Rather the original form of the gold, the ore, is destroyed and the impurities removed so that after the refining process is complete, only the pure gold remains.
So it is with the proving of our faith through various trials. We are refined, impurities removed until we come forth as "pure gold".
"I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance".Isaiah 45:23

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Quote from: darryl on May 16, 2023, 03:24:04 PM
. Sometimes "destroy" is used in the New Testament in the sense of refining something, so that the original form is altered to a purified form. Consider the following passage from I Peter 1:3-6 ESV and verse 7, in another translation:

Good verse you pointed out darryl, when I look into it more I find

I Peter 1:3 His kindness did beget us again to a living hope (YLT) https://www.biblehub.com/1_peter/1-3.htm
Hope is alive. Because God's kindness never fails 1 Cor 13:8. Thus, hope can never permanently die. Thus, "destroy" in NT must mean that people do not permanently die. Annihlationism proven false.

1 Peter 1:4 https://www.biblehub.com/1_peter/1-4.htm
to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and unfading, reserved in the heavens for you,
incorruptible showing that the corruption was destroyed. It's been reserved in advance. Since God has kindness for all, it must come in the future. Eternal Torment proven false.

God would not entirely destroy a created being. Rather, he "destroys' aka refines part of the being that is sinful aka imperfect, leaving only the "perfect" left. All will believe in the living hope of the perfect God in order to continue living. We have the hope that we will continue living and not permanently being "destroyed" or "dying".





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darryl

Quote from: Song on May 17, 2023, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: darryl on May 16, 2023, 03:24:04 PM
. Sometimes "destroy" is used in the New Testament in the sense of refining something, so that the original form is altered to a purified form. Consider the following passage from I Peter 1:3-6 ESV and verse 7, in another translation:

Good verse you pointed out darryl, when I look into it more I find

I Peter 1:3 His kindness did beget us again to a living hope (YLT) https://www.biblehub.com/1_peter/1-3.htm
Hope is alive. Because God's kindness never fails 1 Cor 13:8. Thus, hope can never permanently die. Thus, "destroy" in NT must mean that people do not permanently die. Annihlationism proven false.

1 Peter 1:4 https://www.biblehub.com/1_peter/1-4.htm
to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and unfading, reserved in the heavens for you,
incorruptible showing that the corruption was destroyed. It's been reserved in advance. Since God has kindness for all, it must come in the future. Eternal Torment proven false.

God would not entirely destroy a created being. Rather, he "destroys' aka refines part of the being that is sinful aka imperfect, leaving only the "perfect" left. All will believe in the living hope of the perfect God in order to continue living. We have the hope that we will continue living and not permanently being "destroyed" or "dying".

I agree, Song...certainly fits with the UR verses in the Bible...good  !
"I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance".Isaiah 45:23