The unforgivable sin - UR - and ages

[marie glen]

What Jesus said about the unable to be forgiven sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit of God, was that it could not be forgiven in that age (or world, possibly) or in the one to come. -- https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-32.htm

This is often translated to read "can never be forgiven". But is this what He was saying? Do we move from this world, or from this age straight into eternity? I don't think so, according to Revelation chapter 20, and many words of Jesus.


Revelation 20 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
20 And I saw a messenger coming down out of the heaven, having the key of the abyss, and a great chain over his hand,

2 and he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, who is Devil and Adversary, and did bind him a thousand years,

3 and he cast him to the abyss, and did shut him up, and put a seal upon him, that he may not lead astray the nations any more, till the thousand years may be finished; and after these it behoveth him to be loosed a little time.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them, and the souls of those who have been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and because of the word of God, and who did not bow before the beast, nor his image, and did not receive the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand, and they did live and reign with Christ the thousand years;

5 and the rest of the dead did not live again till the thousand years may be finished; this [is] the first rising again.

6 Happy and holy [is] he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years may be finished, the Adversary shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 and he shall go forth to lead the nations astray, that are in the four corners of the earth -- Gog and Magog -- to gather them together to war, of whom the number [is] as the sand of the sea;

9 and they did go up over the breadth of the land, and did surround the camp of the saints, and the beloved city, and there came down fire from God out of the heaven, and devoured them;

10 and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet (not humans! world beast and false prophet-teacher-teaching) and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages (or age to age).

11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him who is sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven did flee away, and place was not found for them;

12 and I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and scrolls were opened, and another scroll was opened, which is that of the life, and the dead were judged out of the things written in the scrolls -- according to their works;

13 and the sea did give up those dead in it, and the death and the hades did give up the dead in them, and they were judged, each one according to their works;

(Here I believe is where we can place Jesus' many references to "the Judgment".)

14 and the death and the hades/sheol were cast to the lake of the fire -- this [is] the second death...

[rosered]

     Love what you wrote Marie ,
  I sure do not understand everything  in its order , but  have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ we all will .

I believe all of Revelation  Book of the end times [ revealing  of Christ ]   is   given in His  testimony  all found in the   old  and  new testament .
  Being   found in '' the Spirit of prophecy ''  or the   Spirit  of   rest   in the Lord Jesus Christ  works  from the Father  , Isaiah 11 foretold .

John wrote this,'' Day of the Lord  ''while being in the HOLY SPIRIT , by uncovering the truth , hidden from the ages ,  Jesus is the Truth  and way and Life 
For me it is everything happening in the 1000 year reign  of  the Lord Jesus Christ  to the T .

What is in the Body of Christ and what is outside the Body of Christ , HE IS  WHAT IS LIVING  and reconciling all things according to the Fathers desire  perfectly and completely .

   The famine for hearing the Word of God 
I do believe it is the little book that  JOHN  ate up and was sweet in his mouth  , but bitter in his belly ,
Why do I believe this ?
 
Because  we have all the resources  at our fingertips  of the Word of God  , but it is the unbelief    and not careful how we hear that is  causing   all the tribulation 

The Bible  says  3 things very important   to us  to get .
1  a man shall live by his faith .
  2Faith comes by hearing what the Spirit is saying and we hear the sound of it  , so are those born of the Spirit .
  and 3 . when I return will I find faith in the earth ?

  these 3 things are so   profound   on meaning  of what is happening right now .



Amos 8 : 10 . I will turn your feasts into mourning and all your songs into lamentation.

I will cause everyone to wear sackcloth and every head to be shaved. I will make it like a time of mourning for an only son, and its outcome like a bitter day.

11Behold! The days are coming," declares the Lord GOD, "when I will send a famine on the land— not a famine of bread or a thirst for water, but a famine of hearing the words of the LORD.


12People will stagger from sea to sea and roam from north to east, seeking the word of the LORD, but they will not find it....

  For me Jesus come in the age  of being under the law   and administration of  death 
  Life and death are found in the tree of knowledge of good and evil 
  and everyone will be found   guilty before God   in the old Adamic covenant ,everything  must die and be born again  of the Holy Spirit  , the new and living way  , This is why  no one can blaspheme the HOLY SPIRIT  in the age under the law that good will come , we cannot call evil good and good evil   .


  if you break one law you broke them all , no one kept the whole law ,  the Father found none  in al the earth , but He sent His Son to fulfill  all the law  , by His Life   as the perfect and complete sacrifice for sin , once for all time .

   Jesus Christ is the book of Life  , the lambs book of LIFE   and those found in Christ  each in their own order   will come to the Father by revelation or the revealing of Christ in them the hope of glory .
  I do believe times are going to get terrible  in the earth , but those filled with the   Book and Spirit of Life will be  sharing this great news  , because   they have this in them  already  ,
  the electricity will become  useless   and the task masters  will become more harsh  and cruel  , religion will become a  buying and selling on the marketplace   , etc , we see these things happening now already  , but will wax worse and worse   , because fear will   come upon the land  .
  a great tribulation like birth pangs    , horrid pains  to deliver   the child in one day  .
the Day of the Lord  .   the last day  , the Sabbath day rest   the Holy One  before He presents everything delivered to the  Father  ..
  Like I said , this is only in part   Marie , but think there is a  truth in it   ,  everyone filled with Gods Spirit and Word will be helping out   and sharing    LOVE  OF GOD when the fear  and birthing plages grips them   , when  all the seals are all  opened   nothing is hidden that will not be revealed     Daniel 12 , it will be like nothing ever seen  from all the ages before now

  the  powers and principalities  in the high places will be brought low  ,   will hate  the  Truth  , but the Truth will come and  destroy   everything   held  captive  , HE will set all things captive   in death   free  in the Day of the Lord ,    the last and HOLY  Day .  the truth will reign supreme   and at last HE  being subjected to  the FATHERS DESIRE  , GOD  will  be all in all .  1 Cor 15  and  HE has been restraining everything  in Himself   till the Day of the Lord comes  to all   things ..
  by Him and for HIM were all things made for HIM  and though Him  , being the WORD OF GOD in complete TRUTH .  and sum of it all  gathered into Christ .   the HOLY SPIRIT anointing  working together as ONE in   everything . 


Col 1 15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities.

All things were created through Him and for Him.


17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together....


I just believe we are on the edge of something   truly terrible  and wonderful  both working   together at the same time ...
   I can be wrong  , but my faith says,  wait on the Lord to do His mighty work   , keep the faith   and hope and love in Him   real  and alive  ,  as I am overcome  in the world ,  by its strong hatred of the truth   and long to be set free in the Truth totally .
  :HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

Amen, sister! "The book of life, being Jesus himself" - I  never realized that, but it surely must be true, for to believe is to follow / be in Christ! And Christ in us.. To belive, is to be in Jesus/registered in the book. :thumbsup: Love it!

..And amen, when all is wrapped up and completely fulfilled.. God will be all in all.. For "from God, and unto God, is all things". I can't think that anything at all can exist outside of God's Spirit.. I think that's why Jesus was crucified from the foundation (blueprint?) of the world.. built into all things that He is saviour and cornerstone.. And also is the first, the original, the prototype and prime directive.. and the "forever preeminent" (first). I like how this takes things off my shoulders! He is Lord.. It's not a list of rules I have to follow.. Grace makes those fade away.. because grace does follow the rules! Which is all summed up in love.. "love works no ill".. God of course works no ill.. yet nothing happens outside of Him.. He experiences it all. Putting Himself through all these things of history and future.. so His conscious creations can live forever and not fade away.. "So you may have eternal life" Jesus said. And Glory! The life is Him! Father and Son are life. The tree of Life, opposite of the other tree..

I think of "the judgment" as lasting 500 years (like the fall holy days pattern). Does that mean it will take twice as long to put the church in complete order, than it will to put all who rise not yet repentant in order(?!) :faint: ?

Our Father sure is a patient builder.. Architect! (Of a paradise of Life for all..)
Bless you Rose! The whole thing will surely be glorious.. Man may be able to kill the world, but He says we can be of GOOD cheer.. for He has already overcome the world.
         :HeartThrob:

"A thousand may even fall on either side of thee, but it shall not come nigh thee.." Ps 91

[rosered]

  Yes!!   Amen ! ,  the blueprints  of the architect  Master builder is God   Himself ..
  The Holy Spirit is really teaching everyone truth  in love    :dsunny:

  The plan of the ages are unfolding   as many called  and employed by Jesus to finnish up the  works of old
  in  His  righteousness    making a quick work of it  , anyone establishing  their own righteousness will be disappointed .
  Rejecting the Masters plan    , God is the Chief Builder   and corner stone many are stumbled by and with and   that WORD / Sword pierce themselves though with .
still holding the mark of the beast mentality [ the whole world is still under that captivity ]

   the serpent  lie is you will not surly die    from this tree  of knowledge of good and evil , we should not eat of that tree any longer  /do not touch ]     establishing  our own righteousness.....  religion   in general   [using the law  to  steal and kill and  destroy  and  blaspheme the  good name of God all the day long   

God said  you will  for sure die  from that tree .. but the law is good in the sense of   Gods plan  of the ages , and that is to heal the deadly wound of the beast  mentality with the mind of Christ   [offering  for sin and death ] 

  We see this in Daniel    with the image of the beast and calling it  God ...  the false  lie is your own iaw   and image of  salvation is for you , ruling as   a god  , but burn others  forever  and ever    :sigh:

  I love it that Jesus told us  , unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness  of the scribes and Pharisees and   hypocrites  , you will in no wise enter the kingdom of heaven  / God  .........

They  are stumbled  by the stumbling stone and rock of offense  , they refuse to enter and not allow anyone else to either  adding sin to sin   , or error[lie ]    to a greater  [lie ] and lie against the Truth   , binding all  by captivity to death   , by a false hell   of eternal torment    that never  ends and saving themselves and no need for Jesus   to forgive sins , they refuse to forgive sins  , but hold everyone accountable  , their minds are  reprobate , everything and everyone is sinful  BUT THEMSELVES .........The are a god in their own eyes  by their law  established , by your law ye are gods and the works you do are  of the  serpent [lie  , kill and steal  and destroy and blaspheme Gods holy name   till you fail and fall like rulers and die as men ]John 10:34  Psalms 82  5-7

But God said death was   the punishment  ,   and we know   judgement  and death are thrown in the lake of fire  of Gods jealousy    to save  and remove the sin nature   captive of our own carnality  and  learn righteousness in the earth  and  NOT  to blaspheme GODS    good name and character   . to never ever  doubt God again .
He means what He says and says what He means   and all will believe Him in the end .  why did we doubt ?   Salvation has always been of God and not of ourselves . To His glory  and to our learning  what righteousness really is   GODS GRACE upon us all  .

God does save us all in the hour of need [ that trial  upon the whole world ] and we must go boldly before the throne of grace     :HeartThrob: