"Yes God desires that all be saved, but God doesn't desire to save all".
Someone actually said this to me in another forum.
Any thoughts on this whacked out contradictory double-speaking double-thunk statement?
Quote from: legoman on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
"Yes God desires that all be saved, but God doesn't desire to save all".
Someone actually said this to me in another forum.
Any thoughts on this whacked out contradictory double-speaking double-thunk statement?
People get tonque tied sometimes when trying to avoid scripture.
Some think that God can't do what he wants to do, they limit the power of God. They think God signed some sort of contract keeping him from doing what he desires.
I had a Baptist preacher say this to me: I ask the preacher, "if your son was running out into the street and you knew he would be killed by a transfer truck and you had the power to stop him or the truck, wouldn't you do everything in your power to stop this from happening"?
His reply to me was, "not if I had signed a paper saying I would not interfear with what my son did". Free will. :mshock: I told him that "wasn't love and I wouldn't want him for a father".
All you can do is pray for them.
CHB
Quote from: legoman on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
"Yes God desires that all be saved, but God doesn't desire to save all".
Someone actually said this to me in another forum.
Any thoughts on this whacked out contradictory double-speaking double-thunk statement?
Obviously from a person who had not loving parents.
Pray for them.
Quote from: legoman on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
"Yes God desires that all be saved, but God doesn't desire to save all".
LOL...just...lol
Thats like me saying "I desire to be a professional football player, but I dont desire to play football professionally"
Makes little to no sense
Quote from: NinjaWizards777 on January 25, 2010, 03:30:36 AM
Quote from: legoman on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
"Yes God desires that all be saved, but God doesn't desire to save all".
LOL...just...lol
Thats like me saying "I desire to be a professional football player, but I dont desire to play football professionally"
Makes little to no sense
- All of the elect.
- All of humanity but He respects the free will to not be saved.
Not wanting to start a debate on free will it always makes me wonder why a God that repects free will doesn't respect the free will of those in hell. I'm sure the free will of the people of hell is not to be tortured for eternity.
It's like saying that everyone that doesn't want to be a professional football player (heaven) automatically chooses to be a professional tennis player (hell).
WW,
But the people who believe in hell, believe that people choose and want to be in hell.
CHB
The only thing people want is to be happy.
If people are happy in hell then their hell is heaven :winkgrin:
I agree. :happygrin:
CHB
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 25, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
The only thing people want is to be happy.
If people are happy in hell then their hell is heaven :winkgrin:
I dont think anyone will be happy in "hell". Whatever Gehenna entails, I think it will bring them to the full reality of their sin to where they realize their need for God and His grace.
Quote from: NinjaWizards777 on January 26, 2010, 04:17:33 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 25, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
The only thing people want is to be happy.
If people are happy in hell then their hell is heaven :winkgrin:
I dont think anyone will be happy in "hell". Whatever Gehenna entails, I think it will bring them to the full reality of their sin to where they realize their need for God and His grace.
True. And those people do not want to be in hell. Contrary to some views that state that people want to be there. That was the point I was trying to make.