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Re: Labels
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2009, 11:57:55 PM »
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Agreed. Depending on who you're talking to you can use certain terms. But for those i do not know, I do not go out of my way to use any type of labels concerning my beliefs, because the impression I put upon them I want to be spirit inspired. That's all I want.

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I think that is a great outlook. Words can cause two things: clarity or confusion. Some people use words and labels for both reasons. As my intended M.O. is for clarity, in forum conversations especially, I try to seek word definitions. This is not to prove people wrong, because the dictionary says this and they say that, but really to find out what a person MEANS by the labels/words that they use so that we can make sure we are talking about the same things.

For example, if an orthodox Christian asks "are you a Christian" they are really asking "Do you submit to orthodox Christian doctrine." If I say "yes" and leave it at that, he/she will believe I agree with them. If I do that knowingly, then I am lying. If they ask me that, I say "I believe in Jesus Christ." I will say that in a way so that they know that while I believe in Him, that does not mean I subscribe to everything that is taught by Christians generally.

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Re: Labels
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2009, 05:12:08 AM »
 :goodpost: Seth!

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Re: Labels
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2009, 08:19:58 AM »
"...To the one who is conquering, to him will I be giving of the hidden manna, and I shall be giving him a white pebble and on the pebble a new name written, of which no one is aware except the one who is obtaining it." (Rv 2:17, CLV)

"The one who is conquering, him will I be making a pillar in the temple of My God, and he may be coming out nevermore, and I will be writing on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which is descending out of heaven from My God, and My new name." (Rv 3:12, CLV)

Some years ago there was a period in my life in which, for the first time, I suffered organized slander from a group of persons.  At first I thought I was losing my mind, something like blind people, when they hear people talking just out of the range of hearing what they're saying, their mind organizes the sounds into things said against themselves.  Then, when over a period of time I'd look up at the person calling out a really bad or x-rated name, I'd see them looking at me, making it clear to whoever they could, that they were talking about me; so, I began to recognize the same few people every time.  I knew it was not just in my mind.  Who they were or why the people responsible did it, though I've theorized, I don't really know.  They never asked my permission or explained their motivation.  They just repeated slander slogans for all to hear when I was around. These slogans would change every so many days, their calling me one thing for a while, and then all of them calling me another thing for a period after that.  They also pointed me out to various ones with them, repeating the same bogus biographies, words repeated as though each of these slanderers had memorized something off of a chain letter.

Among the gifts God gave to help me in this tormenting circumstance there were dreams and visions.  One was of a sort of "rock" on a hillside covered with fallen leaves, surrounded by about a waist high barbed wire fence.  The rock was approximately man high or a little taller and almost like some kind of abstract memorial slab in shape, that in the late twilight just before nightfall glowed as if it was made of opaque light.  While it was sticky, all of the labels the shadowy people tried to reach over the fence to put on it wouldn't stick to it and were instead blown away by the breeze.  I believe I was that rock in the sense of how I impacted the minds of society around me in that place at that time.
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Re: Labels
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2009, 01:36:22 PM »
that was beautiful, Reformer

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Re: Labels
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2009, 02:49:18 AM »
yes it really was.

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Re: Labels
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2009, 02:57:01 AM »
even in our thought process lebels are necessary. We label things hot and cold, bills and checks.Friend and enemy. These things are alright when we are thinking of how to relate to them so long as we a relating in a Christ centered way, But the minute we began to hurt and make divisions so that we can see ourselves as "better" than someone else then
we are strengthening the carnal mind and setting ourselves up for a fall.
As Seth pointed out ,labels can also be deceptive so it is important that we listen when involved in conversation and convey the truth.My Two Cents  :2c:
Blessings In Christ
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Re: Labels
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2009, 04:33:58 AM »
even in our thought process lebels are necessary. We label things hot and cold, bills and checks.Friend and enemy. These things are alright when we are thinking of how to relate to them so long as we a relating in a Christ centered way, But the minute we began to hurt and make divisions so that we can see ourselves as "better" than someone else then
we are strengthening the carnal mind and setting ourselves up for a fall.
As Seth pointed out ,labels can also be deceptive so it is important that we listen when involved in conversation and convey the truth.My Two Cents  :2c:
Blessings In Christ
Preistsplace

Labels are apart of life and are ordained, just as "christian" was back in Antioch. But despite the labels, all that matters is the spirit of Christ shining through. That never includes viewing ourselves as better. Good post

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Re: Labels
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2009, 10:02:58 PM »
 :cloud9: There's only one label that really matters in there that I could find........born from above, Holy Ghost baptized believer. Blessings.....
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