I think the HS guiding has nothing to do with this topic. The HS is an extra. Ok a very huge extra.
But that doesn't say anything about the Bible itself. Neither did Jesus in any way was trying to minimize the OT. In fact He was teaching directly from it. Ok He was inpired. True. But there was nothing in Jesus teachings that claimed the Bible wasn't of great importance. He even said He came to explain the OT. Meaning that according to Jesus the OT was the real deal. Yes, millions, at that time misunderstood things. True. But still that doesn't mean that for that reason the OT should be viewed as a book that leads to error.
In NT times billions have been in error. Several reasons for that. But on eof them is most certainly (imo) bad translations.
Many, all?, agree satan mixes a lots of truth with a tiny bit of venom that causes disaster. Jesus used bread and leaven to explain how error can infect things. Aren't the wrongly translated words the leaven/poison?
Why all that fuss about satan? No problem with that guy. Just listen to his teachings. The HS has the abillity to correct every mistake.
Everyone his/her own thoughts but imo it's not what the Bible/Jesus teaches. Neither did Jesus teach the HS is replacement for the written word.
Nope. By that I'm not saying the HS is useless, should be ignored, etc etc.
I'm just saying the written word and the HS are on the same team. They aren't replacing one another.
The HS is a great teacher of what is written down in the Bible.
The Book itself is a great tool exposing lying spirits that claim to be the HS. Meaning the person that recieved something in a vision/dream/etc can should verify with the written Bible. And for that a good translation is a big bonus.
Paul said the word of God is the "sword of the Spirit". IMO- The Holy Spirit has a lot to do with this topic.
I never said the HS has no big place in all of this. Why did Paul waste his time writing his part of the Bible? He could have his time for more fruitful things. Or did Paul see great value in the written word? Why did the HS inspire all those persons that together wrote the Bible?
The ideal being that it is the Holy Spirit that will guide us into all truth(as Jesus said)
Didn't Jesus also teach the Scriptures are of great value?
.....teach us through the pitfalls of man's corruption.....put salt on it(the word) and us(the body) so that we can sort it out through fellowship and midrash. Certainly, no other spirit is behind the efforts to restore the truth of the "writings/scrolls"(biblos).
That's just the point EW. Restoring the truth isn't done by corrupted translations. Assuming translations
are inspired (I'm not so sure about that) and there are so many lying spirits could have been part of the process.
Since Peter says these words are given to no individual man's private interpretation
Thanks for making my point EW. Translating things wrong (on purpose) is private interpretation.
because the were "breathed" by the spirit through men set apart for that purpose..... and since Jesus says the Spirit will "bring all things to remembrance", I think the Spirit is the only means by which the word can be made pure(core intent- becoming like God through fellowship in the Spirit of Christ).
Ok, but that still doesn't say/mean anything goes translation wise.
IMO If there is no restoration of truth or unity of the faith possible, then the word of God is full of plainly told lies(not mistranslations) about itself and is a waste of time beyond its historical, literary and philosophical value.
I think the truth is restoring itself. Church is loosing it's grip, scholarship improves, and new (actually ancient) ways of looking at Scripture are gaining momentum.
EW remember that a few months back I wrote AND NOT OR?
That's what I'm trying to explain.