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jaareshiah:

--- Quote from: eaglesway on November 03, 2012, 06:15:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: jaareshiah on November 02, 2012, 10:39:13 PM ---I will stay on-topic, and request that you also stay on-topic, not generating cndemnation of Jehovah's Witnesses. In presenting my posts, these are not "cut and pastes" (jabcat's comment) but information that I have given great thought to, utilizing the Bible, just as Jesus did. And as Jesus told Pilate (John 18:37), I will not stop from presenting accurate Scriptural information, for the sake of those who are really searching for what is true, willing to reason on the Bible, rather than allow orthodox "Christianity" to dictate what they should believe.

All I am doing is following in Jesus "footsteps" who (1 Pet 2:21), despite opposition from the Jewish religious leaders, continued making known "the good news of the kingdom" (Matt 24:14), explaining various aspects of it as well what is required to gain entrance into it.

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Jahreeshiah, the assumption that you already have , and are here to teach, "the truth", runs contrary to the purpose of this board, which is a "discussion forum".

It is not a problem that you are a Jehovah's Witness. It only becomes a problem if you persist in taking the position of a
"teacher", as opposed to simply one who is here to share your point of view and listen in turn to the views of others. I read some interesting points in your posts, and I have read some things that I think are off the wall- and there are some folks on here that would say the same thing of me :o).

I have been a believer for 33 years. In that time I have studied the doctrinal positions of all the major sects and denominations and I am generally familiar with all of them. You are Jehovah's Witness, obviously you believe the systematic theology of that organization. That is OK for you- but you cannot promote it here. This not because you are a Jehovah's Witness- it is about understanding why this blog exists and whether or not you can function as a part of a diverse community of believers that are here to discuss "the restoration of all things".

I suggest you read the following verses, consider them, and respond to them.

"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered and disowned in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him. "But you disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, but put to death the Prince of life, the one whom God raised from the dead, a fact to which we are witnesses. "And on the basis of faith in His name, it is the name of Jesus which has strengthened this man whom you see and know; and the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect health in the presence of you all. "And now, brethren, I know that you acted in ignorance, just as your rulers did also. "But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. "Moses said, 'THE LORD GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN; TO HIM YOU SHALL GIVE HEED to everything He says to you. 'And it will be that every soul that does not heed that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.'
(Act 3:13-23)

For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
(Col 1:13-20)

 In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.
(Eph 1:8-12)

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Anyone who qualifies as a Christian is one who has followed closely in Jesus "footsteps".(1 Pet 2:21) These seek to explain the Bible as Jesus did as well as discuss it. Otherwise, they are not genuine Christians, but counterfeit ones. At John 1, the apostle John wrote that "because the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ. No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him."(John 1:17, 18)

Furthermore, the apostle Matthew wrote of Jesus after having finished the Sermon on the Mount: "Now when Jesus finished these sayings, the effect was that the crowds were astounded at his way of teaching; for he was teaching them as a person having authority, and not as their scribes."(Matt 7:28, 29) The scribes did not effectively teach anyone, but Jesus did. He spoke for God and backed up his teaching with the authority of God's Word. (John 7:16) Jesus' statements were clear, his exhortations persuasive, and his arguments irrefutable. His words got to the heart of issues as well as to the hearts of his listeners.

By the way, what is a person to "promote" on this forum ? A personal belief that encompasses thousands of different ideologies or in actuality to dispense what the Bible really teaches ? No person who calls themselves a Christian can just throw out on this forum any "sort of words". Otherwise, what they are saying has no basis as "truth". Truth is not at odds with itself, so there is only one "truth"; as the apostle Paul said "one faith".(Eph 4:5) Jesus did not just "talk", but everything he said effectively taught others about our heavenly Father, Jehovah God.

I have hope that some will be willing to "discuss" the Bible, gaining insight into "the mind of Jehovah" through "the mind of Christ".(1 Cor 2:16) And should this not be the purpose of every genuine Christian, to learn about our Creator, Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ ?(John 17:3)

dajomaco:
the apostle Matthew wrote of Jesus after having finished the Sermon on the Mount: "Now when Jesus finished these sayings, the effect was that the crowds were astounded at his way of teaching; for he was teaching them as a person having authority, and not as their scribes."(Matt 7:28, 29) The scribes did not effectively teach anyone, but Jesus did. He spoke for God and backed up his teaching with the authority of God's Word. (John 7:16) Jesus' statements were clear, his exhortations persuasive, and his arguments irrefutable. His words got to the heart of issues as well as to the hearts of his listeners.

Yes Jaresiah I understand your dilemma what has been written on your heart
is not what your scribes have written in the book.

We all support you, as you find the courage to listen to your heart and not what man teaches you . All of us here at one time or an other, has had to ignore the man teaching and listen to the spirit of God confirm what we already new in our hearts.
 

jabcat:

--- Quote from: jaareshiah on November 04, 2012, 04:33:55 PM ---
Anyone who qualifies as a Christian is one who has followed closely in Jesus "footsteps".(1 Pet 2:21) These seek to explain the Bible as Jesus did as well as discuss it. Otherwise, they are not genuine Christians, but counterfeit ones.

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 Jaareshiah, I have a question, but  I'll go first by letting you know where I am;  I believe some of what you share, other things I disagree with.  One is, I don't believe our Father's name is Jehovah.  I believe that has been shown to be a corruption.  Although I think it's important, I don't believe that in and of itself is a "do-or-die" point, as most of us also use "Jesus", which is also not literally accurate.  My position is, He knows what's in our heart and in Whom we have believed - the PERSON of Yeshua Meshiach.  Accuracy is good as He leads, but if we "accidentally" or by habit call Him a name which the language He has given us has taught us, I don't believe He holds that against us one way or another, as in "uh-oh, you got my name wrong, you're doomed". 

Another thing, although a true believer will follow in Jesus' footsteps, that's not what the scriptures say makes one spiritually reborn, which Jesus said must occur before one can enter the kingdom.  I believe the scriptures teach that is not by the Law, or not by works, not by effort to do good deeds, including what we may imagine as "following in Jesus' footsteps".  Following Him is an act of obedience as the indwelling Holy Spirit empowers us to do so, after we're spiritually reborn and infilled.  Salvation  is through the gift of grace through faith in Yeshua and His finished work on the cross.  That happens when the Holy Spirit convicts us of our need for the Savior and gives us faith and strength to believe on His name as our Savior.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me."

Rom 10:9-10 ... If you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved.

Eph 2:8-9  For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God--not the result of works, so that no one may boast.

So my question.  Do you believe one must believe Jesus came and died as the sacrifice for our sins, that He rose again, and that it's through belief on Him and Him alone by which we are saved?  If so, great.  If not, where do you differ?  Thanks.

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