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goodreport:
Paul chooses words very carefully, I wonder why he chose the word "ignorantly"

1 Tim 1:13
...but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Is there an OT law concerning doing things in ignorance?

ded2daworld:
IMO Paul knew the Law completely but didn't understand it's purpose so was therefore ignorant.
Paul thought (as many still do today) that the only thing important was keeping the Law (being "good" to get to heaven.)
His eyes were opened (after being blinded) and he saw that :
1. The bible recorded the exact number of people that were saved by keeping the Law - zero.
2. By persecuting Christians to death he was breaking the law (even though it was with the approval of the earthly "higher ups"
3. I believe he began to see and finally saw that ALL of the law was summed up in "Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and strength and love your neighbor as you love yourself"
If Paul did see that before(and he might have) he was not interpreting neighbor correctly.
I believe Jesus saw "Neighbor" as "everyone else in the world." [inclusive]
Paul may have seen it like many people do today as
"neighbor" means only those that are like you and agree with you and believe as you do.[exclusive]

goodreport:
re: IMO Paul...

Good opinions, but I'm asking for OT Scripture references to disobeying the law out of ignorance.

sheila:
exodus 21;26  if a man hits a maidservant or manservant in the eye and destroys it..he must let the

  servant go free to compensate for the eye..  to you the secrets of the kingdom have been given..

  to them I speak in parables..so seeing they do not see..and hearing they do not hear..


   the law is spiritual...and is always fufilled in love.   Love keeps no record of the offense.....

   I will show mercy unto whom I show mercy..is God's freedom to call unto grace while in this age

  or the next. Now men..under wrath are no more than examples of His wrath against satan and his demons

  for we know God made a covenant of peace through His son with man

     John the Baptist's baptism was a baptism into death...to prepare the way of the Lord..it isa symbol

   of death of the flesh/sins wage, or man's will[get behind me satan] which 'prepares' the way of the Lord

   while a man is physically alive, repentance of these sin works that bring death and enmity..and receiving grace

 and token of spirit can make them spiritually alive to God.  However being spiritually alive to God also

  has a pre-requisite that you count your flesh as good as dead.  the understanding is topsy-turvey


   now,John the baptist said to the Pharisees and sadduces that came out to him in the wilderness...


   you offspring of vipers..who warned you to escape from the coming wrath.    the 'death' of the flesh or more

 so..the sin in it..prepares the way for Christ/annointed spirit. free gift of Grace...[it is likened to the death

  of that wicked generation that perishes in the wilderness..before the remainder enter the promised land]

   going down into the Jordan/death..you rise up out of it and the Holy spirit comes upon those raised in Christ

  in the bodily form of a dove....

   what occurs on earth is but a shadow of the Heavenly arrangement...thy will be done on earth as it is

  in heaven....  Paul said..we shall not all die..but at the last trump be changed..and we shall in no way

  precede those who have died before us..

  our repentance,receiving token of Holy spirit..and ministry here on earth is but a shadow of the

  GLORY THAT IS IN HEAVEN..if by our token and counting our flesh as good as dead through Jesus Christ

  we have access to God and the Holy of Holies...all the more the spirits of men who return to God

  and their flesh is actually dead..  Prodigals come home..

   there is one body and many parts....do not think..if you remain alive in the flesh that you preced those who

  have already died If His spirit be in you and He dwell in you..it most certainly is all the more in it's fullness

  in the heavens..If the earth be His footstool where He place death under His feet..then all the more His body

  and it's fullness in Heaven.


     

 

Molly:
Leviticus 5:15

15 "If a soul commit a trespass, and sin through ignorance, in the holy things of the LORD; then he shall bring for his trespass unto the LORD a ram without blemish out of the flocks, with thy estimation by shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for a trespass offering: "

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