willieH: Hello! me brathiz
:rocker & sistiz
We've spoken of this before, but let's try it again on this new version of Tentmaker!
The "term" ETERNITY
... is one that cannot be truly beheld by finite beings... for we have not the ability to percieve entities that have NO BEGINNING or
ENDING... so the terms which are found translated ETERNAL or EVERLASTING... are thereby set outside of the human comprehension range... and therefore are a useless terminology to teach...
It is something like trying to teach differentiation of colors to a blind man... which is not possible, because the man does not possess the TOOL necessary, which is the ability to SEE... Because we stand within a realm based upon beginnings and endings, we cannot behold or understand something or anything that has neither of these limitations...
This does not mean the existence of an EVERLASTING state, is INVALID by any means... but terms which we use to define OUR realm of Time, in which ALL THINGS have beginnings and endings
, ...cannot (validly) be applied to that which does NOT have these two main characteristics... such as ETERNITY
OWLAM (Hebrew) and AION/AIONIOS (greek) have been so translated (as EVERLASTING)... I suggest this translation to be invalid... AION/AIONIOS and OLAM both deal with amounts of TIME... and their use in translation sometimes suggests a beginning without an end
... rather than WITHOUT Beginning OR End
... big difference...
OWLAM appears in many OT verses such as 1 Chro 16:17 / 2 Sam 23:5 / Lev 24:8 / Lev 16:34
... and it is immediatly apparent that these instances of the use of Owlam, had both a beginning, and also found an end...
AIONIOS has the same type of properties, which disqualify it from being considered truly ETERNAL... As is noted in its application to the FIRE found in Jude 7
(the fire of Sodom & Gomorrah is no longer burning (ended), and the burning actually, had a beginning as well) this observation shows that the noted scenario was NOT founded in perpetuity (without beginning or end)
Let's use the teaching of HELL for example... If HELL is truly
"Everlasting"... then it has ALWAYS BEEN
, ...and ALWAYS WILL BE
Not as church theologians suggest OWLAM / AIONIOS to mean ETERNAL, and teach HELL
to be UNENDING period, "tacked on"
to the end of THIS LIFE... TIME
is an invalid measuring tool for that which has no BEGINNING or ENDING... simply because TIME
its increments has both BEGINNINGS and ENDINGS...
If an entity such as YHVH
God, Always ...IS
... as He states in His Word (which He IS of course!)... then TIME
cannot measure His existance... for by definition, HE is INFINITE in ALL "directions" ...and FINITES such as ourselves, are rendered incapable of beholding, or comprehending that existence... "WHERE" and "WHEN"
... a commodity that is to come to an END! In which ALL EVIL is done, and in which ALL things deteriorate, and degenerate, and DIE... ETERNITY
... THANK GOD, through JESUS CHRIST
our Lord, ...that He shall draw ALL to Himself and the ETERNAL LIFE and place in which He IS
Time shall end, for JESUS
said so:John 6:44 ...No man CAN come to Me, except the Father which hath sent Me, draw him and I will raise him on the ...LAST DAY...
...He that rejecteth Me, and recieveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him, the same shall judge him in the ...LAST DAY...
...And sware by Him that liveth for ever and ever, who created Heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, the there should be TIME NO LONGER...
If there shall be a LAST DAY
(and there shall!)... then the FOUNDATIONAL element of which all TIME
consists (days) in ceasing... will bring the end of days
, ...and the end of TIME
...is the opposer of ETERNITY
... It is the "where and when"
...and through those changes it is "where"
...and through that corruption, it is "when"
in which ALL things DIE... ...ETERNITY...
...is "where and when"
things CHANGE NOT...
...and that they do not change is the "when"
they do NOT CORRUPT,
...and through that incorruption, ...is "where"
Any thoughts on Eternity