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Hello to all viewing this. I am not posting this in judgement of anyone or their beliefs. I am simply posting this for those that feel they need something to help them believe - something to help them see the glorious splendour of our Lord and Maker.

Reasons to believe:
/ Proof:

1. The Holy Bible - just look at how many years The Bible has been around for. There are
countless Bible manuscripts. Even in this day and age they are still finding manuscripts. To those of you that claim its just a story book or something someone invented, ask yourself honestly how that can be? If someone invented the Old Testament and then someone else invented the New Testament (what I have seen claims of online) how would it be possible to have so many documents. There are thousands of Bible manuscripts that have been found all over the world. If it was just a story someone wrote then how could there possibly be so many manuscripts splattered all over the world? If you don't believe me do a little research online. If you do a little more research you will see that History and the Bible do in fact back each other up.

2. Incorruptable Bodies of The Saints - I am not Catholic and I am not familiar with many Catholic beliefs and ways. But you have to admit that there is something very mystical about the fact that the bodies of saints don't decay. Look up St. Bernadette of Lourdes.

3. Colors and Animals - For those that believe The Planet Earth just somehow "popped' into existance without the help of God, look in the mirror. Don't you think that you are a unique design? Look at your features and how clever the whole human form is. How could something like you just "evolve" out of nothing and with no help from a Supreme Being? Look at animals, there are so many species and all are so unique. Look at nature and all the colors and really think deeply to yourself.

4. Miracles - There are countless miracles that have happened throughout the ages. So many things that medical science can't explain. In fact there are tons of things that plain science can't explain on its own either.

There are many, many proofs of our Makers existance, and I will keep adding more to this thread when I have the time. For those of you who doubt another sure proof is prayer. Prayer for as long as it takes and you too will start to feel something amazing inside of you. Just try it. Prayer is a very powerful thing.

Remember as well that everyone on these boards are here for you. Feel free to join and ask questions about anything you would like to know concerning Christianity and of course Universal Salvation.

Bless you all


--- Quote from: DeeDee on November 13, 2008, 10:33:04 AM ---For those of you who doubt another sure proof is prayer. Prayer for as long as it takes and you too will start to feel something amazing inside of you. Just try it. Prayer is a very powerful thing.

Bless you all

--- End quote ---

Yes, amen. Prayer is a very powerful, and can override whatever state you're in.

Those who seek the truth, who are pure in heart, will see God. We should never be surprised by people's rejections the to the existence of God, because it does hit people's deepest soul. They count the cost and it is too weighty. But arguments do go along way in tearing down the false picture, and for any interested there is a great overview of some of the arguments for the existence of God here:


The existence of God cannot be proven scientifically. Nor does it need to be. It can, however be discussed from a philosophical standpoint. The ancient philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle accepted the existence of God based on philosophical reasoning.

Plato reasoned that the universe could not have been created out of nothing. (Ex Nihilo)

Aristotle held that a "prime mover" or "unmoved mover" must have set the universe in motion.

Parmenides said that "nothing can come from nothing".

The essence of these arguments is that, even traced back to its earliest form, the highly compressed single ball of matter that exploded to create the universe had to have come from somewhere. Where? Creationism gets too specific and literal for me. I prefer not to limit God in His ability to create the universe as He saw fit. Understanding it starts with understanding the purpose for it. (Our being here in the first place) That is a much deeper matter.

The problem is that creationists have tried to argue that it is a science. It is not a science.


--- Quote from: alihaymeg on December 13, 2008, 08:25:33 AM ---The existence of God cannot be proven scientifically.
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Mmm, but if you can find scientific facts that where unknown during writing the Bible it is some proof of a higher intelligence. No solid proof for a God because it also can be alien intelligence.



The Old Testament, written over a 1,000 year period, contains over 300 references to the coming Messiah. All of these were fulfilled in Jesus Christ, and they established a solid confirmation of His credentials as the Messiah; the Anointed One (King; Priest; Saint); Intercessor (to release or deliver; help; meet; seek; accompany).


Many of the prophecies concerning the messiah were totally beyond human control:

Birth: Place, time, manner of.

Death: Peoples reactions, piercing of side, burial

Resurrection: Where did His body go?

By using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight of these prophecies --- the chance that any man might have lived to fulfill all eight prophecies is one in one hundred trillion!


To illustrate this: If we take 100 trillion silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas, they would be two feet deep. Now we mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly --- all over the state. Now blindfold a man and let him travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick only one silver dollar. What chance would he have of picking the right one? The same chance that the prophets would have of writing just eight of these prophecies and having them all come true for any one man --- if they had written them without God's inspiration!


The chance of any one man fulfilling all of 48 prophecies is one in 10 to the 157 power. The electron is about as small an object as we can imagine. if we had a cubic inch of these electrons and tried to count them, it would take us (at 250 per minute) 19,000 time 19,000 time 19,000 years to count them. Now mark one of them, and thoroughly stir it into the whole mass. What chance does our blindfolded man have of finding the right electron? --- The same chance as one man of fulfilling 48 of the prophecies about Christ, without being the Son of God!

Jesus Christ fulfilled every prophecy written about the coming Messiah --- over three hundred of them! Would that have been possible had He not been the Son of God?


Here is a short listing of some of the hundreds of prophecies concerning Christ:


Linage Genesis 3:15; 9:26: 22:18; 26:4; 28:14; 49:10; 2 & Samual 7:12-16

Son of God Psalm 2:6-7

Virgin birth Isaiah 7:14

Birthplace Micah 5:2

Piercing of side Zechariah 12:10

Darkness Psalm 22:2

Vinegar Psalm 69:21

Mocking Psalm 22:6-8

Nakedness Psalm 22:17

Gambling for clothes Psalm 22:18

Unbroken bones Psalm 34:20

Burial Isaiah 53:9

Resurrection Psalm 16:10; Hosea 6:2; Psalm 30:3,9; Isaiah 53:10

Assention to right hand of God Psalm 110:1; 68:18; Proverbs 30:4; 24:3-10


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