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myrddin

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"New To UR"
« on: September 16, 2011, 01:59:27 AM »
Hi Tentmaker Forum Members,
I'm new to this universalism stuff, and I'd like to say I'm extremely grateful for all the resources Gary Amirault has put on the Tentmaker website.  My background is quite varied, and my most recent trek was through the world of the Young, Restless, and Reformed, and I have to say I've been quite helped by their outlook.  However, the idea of Hell and eternal torment always bugged me, even the kinder, gentler C.S. Lewis version wherein people send themselves to Hell.  But on May 2, I listened to Rob Bell and Adrian Warnock (British reformed guy) on the Unbelievable radio program, and it seemed the scales fell from my eyes.  The one (Adrian Warnock) who I thought would be true to scriptures would always revert back to an argument like, "Who are you, Rob Bell, to attack the orthodox view that has been held for centuries?"  Rob Bell brought, in his usual fashion, asked a bunch of questions rather than gave answers.  One thing he brought up was the range of meaning of the word aionios, and that was when the Lord broke chains that I had in my outlook, and I realized that the Scriptures don't have to be interpreted the traditional Augustinian way, at least in this matter.  This matter came to the forefront, and now I'm kind of obsessed.  So for the past 5 months I've been investigating the matter, and realizing that the traditional case is very flimsy. I'm amazed that so many people still fall for it.  But then I fell for it, too, so I guess it's not so strange.

I'm looking forward to participating on this forum.

cheers,

John

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 02:13:32 AM »
welcome...it seems like it is God's time for you see the truth for yourself :bigGrin:
blessings :icon_king:

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 03:06:58 AM »
I've had the issue of Hell on the backburner for a long time (30 years), but I always knew that I had to resolve it.  I suppose I was afraid to, but when I realized that aionios means 'of the age', all the stops were removed and now I'm devouring anything I can find on the issue. 

Now I'm investigating the words 'all' and 'world'.

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 04:05:17 AM »
You have been led to a very good learning place.  :dsunny: :welcome:
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 04:11:35 AM »
welcome, the truth is beautiful isn't it?

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2011, 04:49:15 AM »
Wecome.   :bigGrin:
Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23

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Re: "New To UR"
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 09:05:49 AM »
 :welcome: myrddin,

May you find an answer to some all  :msealed: your questions
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...