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Allow me to introduce myself
« on: July 27, 2009, 12:26:24 AM »
I am Jim Morgan. I am married, have four sons and am an ordained minister. I do not at this time preach anywhere and don't have a church or anything like that.

The orthodox view of hell is repugnant to me and I believe it's repugnant to God's Word. I also hold non-orthodox views regarding Satan, demons, devils or whatever you call them. I also tend towards preterism in my eschatological make up. So I guess you can see why I don't have a church. ;)

Admittedly I find myself uncomfortable with Universal Reconciliation. Since before Bishop Carlton Pearson made his big splash I have been studying it. It makes sense. It lines up with Bible. I know the arguments, but for some reason I have a very unsettled spirit about it.

I am here to gain understanding and make a few friends. I will update my profile with all the pertinent information. Thank you.
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 12:38:14 AM »
Welcome to the fold.
Remember: It's not by power or might, but by His Spirit.

Incidentally, you're the 800th member! May that signify be a new beginning!
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 12:49:06 AM »

 
  Good Day to you Jim , :thumbsup: welcome
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 01:01:37 AM »
We welcome you with open arms, brother.
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 04:25:15 AM »
 :cloud9: Welcome to the Tent......... :thumbsup:
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 04:44:52 AM »
Hi Jim.  Good intro.   :thumbsup:

I personally don't exactly agree with Carlton Pearson's version.  I believe scripture teaches more in line with Thomas Kissinger, Gary Amirault and others that say Jesus is the Savior of the world, but each will have their individual moments of the Holy Spirit's visitation upon them, i.e., being saved/being given the faith to believe on Jesus...personally, not "just" universally - some now, the rest later (each in his own order, per Apostle Paul.) 

"What must I do to be saved?  Believe ON the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16)

It may take a bit for things to "settle" into your spirit.  Seek the Lord. He will lead you into truth.  Welcome, God's blessing, James.
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 04:48:14 AM »


Gotta get a Michael Jackson to reach a lot!!! Carlton has reached
"some" ...........and he sure seems free...........
I'm sure he gets persecuted a lot too.

Well, hello from me. :welcome:
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2009, 04:53:09 AM »
I think we need to proclaim Jesus to the Buddhists and Muslims (and everyone).  Does Carlton do so, or does he more so tell them they're "OK" because of Jesus, i.e., all roads lead there so "don't worry, be happy"?  I'm not sure, I'll check it out more  :dontknow:.  I do know Gary has an article on Tent expressing concern that Carlton's version is "too soft", perhaps (my words) too ecumenical.

Paul said preach so they can believe...and how can they believe if they haven't heard.

Maybe part of what bothers you Jim, is an absolute (more unitarian) universalism that teaches an "all roads" mentality, Jesus will fix it all so it doesn't matter...that bothers me, and I think there's significant error in that message.  I do believe in ultimate reconciliation, but that God wants His Son proclaimed and believed on now (to those He gives ears to hear/eyes to see)...not just pat everyone on the head and tell them "I'm OK, you're OK".

Anyway, Jesus is the Savior of the world...John 4:42.

Welcome again  :bigGrin: 
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 01:39:48 PM »
Welcome Jim

Quote from: jabcat on July 27, 2009, 04:53:09 AM
I think we need to proclaim Jesus to the Buddhists and Muslims (and everyone).  Does Carlton do so, or does he more so tell them they're "OK" because of Jesus, i.e., all roads lead there so "don't worry, be happy"?  I'm not sure, I'll check it out more  :dontknow:.  I do know Gary has an article on Tent expressing concern that Carlton's version is "too soft", perhaps (my words) too ecumenical.

Paul said preach so they can believe...and how can they believe if they haven't heard.

Maybe part of what bothers you Jim, is an absolute (more unitarian) universalism that teaches an "all roads" mentality, Jesus will fix it all so it doesn't matter...that bothers me, and I think there's significant error in that message.  I do believe in ultimate reconciliation, but that God wants His Son proclaimed and believed on now (to those He gives ears to hear/eyes to see)...not just pat everyone on the head and tell them "I'm OK, you're OK".

Anyway, Jesus is the Savior of the world...John 4:42.

Welcome again  :bigGrin: 

I agree. Unitarianism is NOT UR. WE ARE  all ok., eventually. But that's soley because of the Cross. Just because Christ is the savior of the world does not change that fact that only in him do we experiance life through the living Spirit, and forgiveness of sins.

Grace and peace to you, Jim

Brandon
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 01:53:27 PM »
Welcome Jim :thumbsup:
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 03:52:40 AM »
Quote from: jimmorgan on July 27, 2009, 12:26:24 AM
I am Jim Morgan. I am married, have four sons and am an ordained minister. I do not at this time preach anywhere and don't have a church or anything like that.

The orthodox view of hell is repugnant to me and I believe it's repugnant to God's Word. I also hold non-orthodox views regarding Satan, demons, devils or whatever you call them. I also tend towards preterism in my eschatological make up. So I guess you can see why I don't have a church. ;)

Admittedly I find myself uncomfortable with Universal Reconciliation. Since before Bishop Carlton Pearson made his big splash I have been studying it. It makes sense. It lines up with Bible. I know the arguments, but for some reason I have a very unsettled spirit about it.

I am here to gain understanding and make a few friends. I will update my profile with all the pertinent information. Thank you.

HI Jim, Welcome. God bless you!
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 08:49:04 AM »
Welcome to the community Jim!

When I first started studying UR I was at first: super excited, then a bit uneasy, then doubtful, and now I'm back to basically believing whole heartedly in UR again. What has really helped me, is asking: what really IS TRUE love?

Love man, love all the way!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 12:24:36 PM »
Welcome, Jim -

I have never met two Christians who agree on everything.  Love and all that it leads us to become is the most important thing  :HeartThrob:

Peace...
Anne
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