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The_Angel_Of_Truth

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Hello...
« on: May 31, 2008, 12:20:50 AM »
I am 14 years old, almost 15 but I have many questions about God, Satan, Hell, and so forth...

The reason I came here is I read the article about why Hell is false and the way the man felt, how he worried so much about the unsaved, and I realized... it was the same way I felt. I felt like my soul was ripped apart just thinking about someone, closer to me than anyone, not being saved and going to Hell...

I read the arcticle... and now have many more questions.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2008, 02:29:27 AM »
and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. Colossians 1:20...

Welcome here.  God loves you, Jesus is our Savior...walk humbly before Him and in complete openness to Him..God's blessing, James.
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Re: Hello...
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 08:41:48 AM »
I am 14 years old, almost 15 but I have many questions about God, Satan, Hell, and so forth...

The reason I came here is I read the article about why Hell is false and the way the man felt, how he worried so much about the unsaved, and I realized... it was the same way I felt. I felt like my soul was ripped apart just thinking about someone, closer to me than anyone, not being saved and going to Hell...

I read the article... and now have many more questions.

Hi AoT

:welcome: to TMf.  Good that at your age you have questions about these things.  If you seek, ask and knock, it will be revealed, given and opened to you by the Holy Spirit.  Just a caution, do NOT let man influence you and UR is NOT a feel good doctrine or a license to do as you please but I am sure by way of your OP, this is not case.

I too had many unanswered questions in my youth and no one could answer them until I met the Lord 22 years later and that was 20 years before I knew of a thing like UR - I just kinda believed that it was impossible to equate a God of Love and the myth of hell even though that is what I was reading in my bible.

One day I asked the Lord, "What about all those that never heard of Jesus and those that died before Him?"  His answer, "You let Me worry about that, you just study!"  Being filled with the HS, if hell was real as I was reading, then He surely would have told me so - He didn't.  Later I was led to research more as what I discovered in church did not line up with The Father I had met - and then the myths began to unravel.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 08:42:23 AM »
Hi there!

I hope you enjoy your time here and learn more about His grace and love (as we all are)!

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The_Angel_Of_Truth

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 10:00:25 PM »
I am 14 years old, almost 15 but I have many questions about God, Satan, Hell, and so forth...

The reason I came here is I read the article about why Hell is false and the way the man felt, how he worried so much about the unsaved, and I realized... it was the same way I felt. I felt like my soul was ripped apart just thinking about someone, closer to me than anyone, not being saved and going to Hell...

I read the article... and now have many more questions.

Hi AoT

:welcome: to TMf.  Good that at your age you have questions about these things.  If you seek, ask and knock, it will be revealed, given and opened to you by the Holy Spirit.  Just a caution, do NOT let man influence you and UR is NOT a feel good doctrine or a license to do as you please but I am sure by way of your OP, this is not case.

I too had many unanswered questions in my youth and no one could answer them until I met the Lord 22 years later and that was 20 years before I knew of a thing like UR - I just kinda believed that it was impossible to equate a God of Love and the myth of hell even though that is what I was reading in my bible.

One day I asked the Lord, "What about all those that never heard of Jesus and those that died before Him?"  His answer, "You let Me worry about that, you just study!"  Being filled with the HS, if hell was real as I was reading, then He surely would have told me so - He didn't.  Later I was led to research more as what I discovered in church did not line up with The Father I had met - and then the myths began to unravel.

Blessings in your seeking - may you find what you are looking for.

I understand what you are saying. I am only 14 and ive had similar experiences. A while back I kept reading it was possible in prayer to actually talk to God and have him talk back to you. I did not know whether to believe this or not because I had never been able to do it before... then I realized something about myself...

All my life, all my prayers, my beliefs, they werent my own... they were what I was tought by man, not by God himself. All my prayers had rythem. They were just something I did, something I felt like I had to do but didnt... then I started praying in my own words, looking at it from my heart...

...And I have spoken to the Lord several times... and he has spoken back...

The article I read made much sense. It was an eye opener. I had just got done talking to God about all the unanswered questions when I had read this. Now many of the questions have been solved and I thank God that this has happened. There was much doubt in my mind that God existed before... now there is no doubt in my mind.

God tells me the same for my friend who is not saved. "Let me take care of it." But I also hear more... It feels like he wants to take care of it, but he wants me to be the one to bring her to him. I feel that, and I believe that with all my heart and soul.

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 10:07:43 AM »
Hi The_Angel_of_Truth,

I just read your first 13 posts at the boards and I genuinely believe you're further along than I was in 2001 after I'd read half a dozen or more books on UR and was starting a UR website.  I was one of the scary ones for whom eternal torment actually made sense, so although I was preaching it the first year that I had a basic handle on the message, it was still 2 more years before my heart could totally rest in it and before my mind could totally rejoice in it.  I came into this with much fear and trembling, just knowing that it would eventually get proven out in my studies that it was too good to be true.  God had to break it down for me verse by verse by verse and just about take me through all 31,173 verses of the Bible on it before I was willing to stop entertaining the possibility that none of it was real after all, that either God would cruelly torture for as long as He existed or that there was no God and anything else beyond this life. 

All kinds of hidden beliefs, doubts, fears, etc., came to the surface at this time for me.  So, if you ever find yourself doubting the existence of God or whatever, that's just the Gospel doing a purifying work and you shouldn't get too worried about it.  Most of that's just in the emotional realm and has no real intellectual foundation.  You're discovering your own gift of faith from Jesus during any bouts of that, and what you've previously been taught about all kinds of things will start coming under the magnifying glass for you.  You're discovering what the earliest Apostles, (Paul particularly,) were RUNNING towards the chopping block over.  All hard thoughts of God fall away through an understanding that if He doesn't reach them in this life, then He'll nail them in the next life.

Not sure if you've thought of this yet, but isn't it amazing how people are only concerned about the violation of people's free wills when it comes to heaven, but they believe that any sinner just jovially runs after Hell and damnation and having the smoke of their torment ascending up forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever???  God's sending these people to Hell 'cause God forbid that He should ever violate their free wills!!!!!!! :mshock:  If that ever makes sense to you, please explain it to me 'cause nobody else around here can :msealed: :laughing7:

Welcome to Tentmaker.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 07:27:07 PM »
Hi The_Angel_of_Truth,

I just read your first 13 posts at the boards and I genuinely believe you're further along than I was in 2001 after I'd read half a dozen or more books on UR and was starting a UR website.  I was one of the scary ones for whom eternal torment actually made sense, so although I was preaching it the first year that I had a basic handle on the message, it was still 2 more years before my heart could totally rest in it and before my mind could totally rejoice in it.  I came into this with much fear and trembling, just knowing that it would eventually get proven out in my studies that it was too good to be true.  God had to break it down for me verse by verse by verse and just about take me through all 31,173 verses of the Bible on it before I was willing to stop entertaining the possibility that none of it was real after all, that either God would cruelly torture for as long as He existed or that there was no God and anything else beyond this life. 

All kinds of hidden beliefs, doubts, fears, etc., came to the surface at this time for me.  So, if you ever find yourself doubting the existence of God or whatever, that's just the Gospel doing a purifying work and you shouldn't get too worried about it.  Most of that's just in the emotional realm and has no real intellectual foundation.  You're discovering your own gift of faith from Jesus during any bouts of that, and what you've previously been taught about all kinds of things will start coming under the magnifying glass for you.  You're discovering what the earliest Apostles, (Paul particularly,) were RUNNING towards the chopping block over.  All hard thoughts of God fall away through an understanding that if He doesn't reach them in this life, then He'll nail them in the next life.

Not sure if you've thought of this yet, but isn't it amazing how people are only concerned about the violation of people's free wills when it comes to heaven, but they believe that any sinner just jovially runs after Hell and damnation and having the smoke of their torment ascending up forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever???  God's sending these people to Hell 'cause God forbid that He should ever violate their free wills!!!!!!! :mshock:  If that ever makes sense to you, please explain it to me 'cause nobody else around here can :msealed: :laughing7:

Welcome to Tentmaker.

That is an AMAZING point ive never looked at before! God gives us all this freedom on earth. Freedom of religion, of speech, to move where we want, and do what we want, and the worst on earth well endure is earthly punishment. Its not like if you sin your struck dead on the spot... I wouldnt be here right now.  :help: :Pray: :laughing7:

But then according to ET you get to Heaven, and all that freedom is stripped away. Alot of people have said that God gives you that chance at freedom, you mess it up, no more in Heaven... but... God promises us this freedom. And you must remember... God never changes, on earth as he is in heaven.