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Offline saintwalee

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Lake of Fire
« on: June 26, 2014, 08:51:33 AM »
Baptism by Fire

Mat_3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Rev 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

1Co 3:13  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

The baptism by water would seem to indicate the act of repentence, which is the first step in relationship to God.

The baptism by the Holy Spirit, would seem to be that of refreshing. Rivers of living water, or the water that Jesus talked about with the Samaritan woman. This is God with us, Emmanuel. He will help us through the next step, the baptism by fire.

The baptism by Fire is the purging work of getting rid of our sinful nature, so as to produce the perfect man.
2Ti_3:17  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

This is also revealed in the story of Moses: Moses brought the Israelites out of Egypt through the Red Sea (water baptism), and God led them through the desert as a cloud by day and as a pillar of fire by night (Holy Spirit baptism) and as a burning mountain at Sinia where the law was written with the finger of God (baptism by fire).

Later, God brought the apostate Jews through their judgement in Babylon, and God signified that they had been purified by bringing Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego through the fire:

Dan 3:25  He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
Dan 3:26  Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.

Interested in your comments.



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Re: Lake of Fire
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 10:49:04 AM »
Interested in your comments.
Cosidering the bolded parts in your post I think we agree on the main points.
The fire exists, but it's not literal fire but Go(o)d fire.
It's a refiner's fire.
It's the fiery tongues Pentecost fire.
In the ancient East brimstone was a very positive thing. It was considered a divine substance. They used brimstone in to get rid of pests in their homes and cure skin conditions. Click

When looking at things the way the ancients understood it; it all becomes so clear.
- Fullar's soap = cleaning by washing
- Refining = cleaning by removing dross
- Brimstone = cleaning by disinfecting
- Fire = cleaning by heat/fire. Num 31:32-33
- Etc

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PS  :welcome: :newb:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Lake of Fire
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 06:16:33 PM »
Interested in your comments.
Cosidering the bolded parts in your post I think we agree on the main points.
The fire exists, but it's not literal fire but Go(o)d fire.
It's a refiner's fire.
It's the fiery tongues Pentecost fire.
In the ancient East brimstone was a very positive thing. It was considered a divine substance. They used brimstone in to get rid of pests in their homes and cure skin conditions. Click

When looking at things the way the ancients understood it; it all becomes so clear.
- Fullar's soap = cleaning by washing
- Refining = cleaning by removing dross
- Brimstone = cleaning by disinfecting
- Fire = cleaning by heat/fire. Num 31:32-33
- Etc

Lake of Life - Click here


PS  :welcome: :newb:

 :iagree: I love reading these meanings of the words as understood by ancient Israel!


A warm welcome saintwalee!  :smile:
2nd Advent ='s ?
 (1)Trumpets + (2)DOA + (3)Tabernacles = PROOF of UR & God's utter Perfection.
[(1)Rev 16:14,15 & 16 too + (2)the 2nd Resurrection & Grt Day of Judgment/Review + (3)Rev 21:3 & all things new]

Who, after experiencing being resurrected, etc. isn't going to "believe"? And repent? and thus have their names written in the Book of "Life"?
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Re: Lake of Fire
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 11:14:17 PM »
 :cloud9: When you look up the word for lake, it runs into a meaning of "haven like unto a safe harbor". The fire only burns up the chaff. It hurts proportionally according to our attachment to what is being burned. Picking up your cross means to crucify that flesh attachment, so then that flesh can't "hurt", because dead men don't feel pain.  :winkgrin: My  :2c: Blessings....
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Re: Lake of Fire
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 05:02:06 AM »
:cloud9: When you look up the word for lake, it runs into a meaning of "haven like unto a safe harbor".
That's because it's only a few feet wide  :2c:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...