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Judgement and Punishment / Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by eaglesway on January 05, 2015, 06:01:25 AM »
I agree. Also, in John's apocalypse there is as much imagery representing the emergence of the body of Christ under the headship of Jesus as there is anything else, and I wonder why there never seems to be much excitement about that prospect, when(as i see it anyway) it is the key to the aionian plan of God in this age and the next.

The whole creation anxiously awaits the revelation of the sons of God. The Bride is coming down out of the heavens. A giant messenger clothed in the cloud and his head in the heavens having the eternal gospel of god in his hand.  A woman standing on the moon clothed in the sun.

Why not prophecy about these things rather than trying to figure out if the locusts of Abaddon are helicopters shooting nuclear missiles lol.

Well, I'll tell you why. These prophets have little or no stake in the body of Christ and the revelation of the children of God. Their stake is in their own glory, and at 25.00 plus 7.00 shipping (for Dubuman's tape featured by the 3rd eagle), I'd say there may be a "profit" or two in thee end times prophecies.
Judgement and Punishment / Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by Shev on January 05, 2015, 04:35:05 AM »
I always take these prophecies that come out in early January with a massive pinch of salt and heavy doses of skepticism. Every year rolls around, and each January we are supposed to believe that the Holy Spirit is sending out a bulletin on upcoming world events for the year? Every year we hear that "THIS is the year that x, y or z is going to happen!"...and it never does. I well remember in January 2006 sitting with a group of precious believers, who all had a word to get excited about for the coming year...evidently 2006 was going to be the year where God sent us forth to do this and that, brought us into the blessing we had been seeking, and so forth. we are nine years on.

The biggest problem of all is that so many of these self appointed prophets break down Revelation purely from a 'world events' viewpoint', without any reference to how this unveils, reveals or discloses Jesus Christ. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, and if someone has their 'prophetic' eyes on Russia, America, Putin, Obama or Willy Wonka, the only thing it tells me is that their focus is NOT on Christ and His kingdom. The fact this man gives himself such fantastical titles such as the 'Third Eagle', completes the picture.
Judgement and Punishment / Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by joeteekay on January 05, 2015, 04:30:46 AM »
God saves us from the third eagle of the apocalypse.

 :Yesss:  Yes He sure does. So do not get your beads (rosaries) just yet.  This guy must be an apostate Catholic or something.

Judgement and Punishment / Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by eaglesway on January 05, 2015, 04:19:38 AM »
 God saves us from the third eagle of the apocalypse.
Judgement and Punishment / Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by sheila on January 05, 2015, 03:07:41 AM »
Jeremiah 31; those days people will no longer say..'The father's have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set

  on edge". Instead ,everyone will [spiritually]die for his own sin[missing the mark]  whoever eats sour grapes his own teeth

  will be set on edge.

   The time is coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel...................v 33 I will put my law in their minds

   and write it on their hearts .I will be their God. No longer will a man teach his neighbor,or a man his brother,saying...

    'know the Lord" because.......THEY WILL ALL KNOW ME...from the least of them to the greatest." declares the Lord......

Lounge / Re: what do you think of Ronald Regan
« Last post by CHB on January 04, 2015, 08:37:22 PM »
There is no "the" antichrist.


What I should have said is, what was suppose to be the antichrist has already been and there is no antichrist today, except in our minds.

micah, I agree with what you said.
When I meditate on the feeding of the 5,000 I see the divine exponential multiplication of the grace of God. Jesus received the gift of the loaves and the fishes from a little boy, He took it in His hands, He blessed it and He broke it. It began to multiply and it continued to multiply until every need was met.

On the day of Pentecost there were 120 people in the upper room. They gave their all to Jesus. So He took them in His hands and He blessed them and He broke them and they began to multiply.

Acts 2:44 And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, praising God and having favor with all the people(Loaves). And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved(Fishes)

Loaves and Fishes. Fellowship and Salvation multiplying exponentially by the grace of God. They gave what they had, themselves.

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:5-11

Jesus was given all things, "For so it pleased the Father to make all the fulness dwell in Him" Col. 1:19

He gave it all back to God. He didn't keep it to Himself, grasping at the exaltation, He poured it out for others. So, God took Him in His hands, and blessed Him and broke Him and He is multiplying still....." and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, whether things in heaven or things on earth, through the blood of His cross." Col.1:20

It will keep multiplying until there is no more need. Until every knee bows whether in heaven or on earth or under the earth, and every tongue confesses that Jesus Christ is Lord. Until God is all in all. Until the whole creation is set free from futility into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

1 Cor 4:17-19 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

We are the ambassadors of the good will of God toward mankind, announcing the good news, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world". John 1:29

In return the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world proclaims...

 "Behold, I am making all things new."
And He says, "Write, for these words are faithful and true." Rev 21:5

Accordingly, the children of God along with the whole creation reply,

   "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing."
    And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying,
   "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
   And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.Rev 5:11-14

Jesus foretold of all of this in the tiniest of parables,

"The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened." Mt 13:33

A little leaven leavens the whole lump:o) Jesus was planted in the earth, and He is multiplying exponentially until every need is met.

(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) Eph 4:10

This is gospel of Jesus Christ that was preached by Peter on Pentecost....

But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. Acts 3:18-21

The greatest miracle of all may be that they gave all they had, including their own lives. People were no different then than they are now. We do not let go our well laid plans or laid up stores easily. But what happened among them did not happen because they gave all so much as they gave all because of what had happened in them. They had eaten of the living bread that comes down from heaven. It was blessed and broken and it multiplied until God had become all in all for them. There was no other need among them because they were standing in the blessing and the breaking and they were overflowing with the divine nature.

Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2 Pet 1:1-4

For so it pleased the Father to make all the fulness dwell in Him. Col. 1:19

And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. John 1:16

And grace for grace- divine exponential multiplication of grace. Grace to be filled up with the divine nature. Grace to be like Jesus.

For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen. Eph 3:14-19

How many times we here this promise as if God wants to fill us with earthly things. "Exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think!"

Or to bless our ministry, "Exceedingly above all we ask or think!"

This not what paul is praying for us though. He is praying that we will overflow with the divine nature of Christ. Overflow with the love of God. He knows all else will be OK, if only we are.....

Rooted and grounded in love, filled up to all the fulness of God. But how?

Strengthened with might by His Spirit in the inner man. Taken in His hands, blessed, broken and multiplied until God becomes all in all. The key word is in.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. 1 Cor 15:22-28

As it is in the whole creation so it is in us. God becomes all in all when the last enemy is subjected. When death has finished its work. When there is no need for rule, power and authority because Christ has vanquished us and has ascended in our love to fill all things.

Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.
Therefore reckon the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.

This is where we need the grace of God. Too reckon ourselves dead.

"For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God." Colossians 3:3

Everyone who believes HAS DIED, but have we reckoned ourselves dead. Is our life hidden with Christ in God or are we still setting our affections on things below. Ministerial ambitions? Material possessions? We cannot let them go until we have reckoned ourselves dead. Then our lives are hidden with Christ in God. God becomes all in all.

For this reason Paul bows his knee before the Father, that we would be....

Rooted and Grounded in love. Filled up to all the fulness of God. Overflowing with the divine nature.

This is the glorious liberty of the children of God.

 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. Rom 8:16-23

When Jesus blessed the loaves and the fishes they multiplied until every hunger was filled as they passed it along from one to another. This is how the multiplication of grace will abound in the salvation of all, each in his own order. First Jesus, Then the ecclesia- those who are His at His appearing, then comes the end, when multitudes will enter the kingdom at the Great White Throne while multitudes will enter the lake of fire until every knee bows and every tongue confesses that Jesus is Lord until death holds not a single soul and can be done away with, nullified, destroyed.

But for all who believe Christ is subjecting the adversaries now. He desires to fill all things now. He is making every enemy a footstool for His feet.

We need grace to "reckon ourselves dead" and "Set our affections on things above" so that Jesus can ascend in us and "fill all things".

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal. 2:20

This is the new creature in Christ. This is how it lives and moves and has its being. Christ is multiplying within, and as He does so the divine nature overflows, and as it does so the ministry of reconciliation flourishes.

And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. Rom 8:28-30

Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. 2 Cor. 5:17-19

Behold, I am making all things new!

Lounge / Re: what do you think of Ronald Regan
« Last post by fire walker on January 04, 2015, 10:00:45 AM »
Hasnt every president since Eisenhouer been somebodies antichrist ? :laugh:

Yes, I suppose the Presidents since then have been called an anti christ by somebody, I can also remember some people saying that about Harry S Truman when he was in office and even a few people though to a lesser extent referring to FDR as an anti Christ during the war.  Both of these Presidents had their better days and some grim difficult days while in office.
I thought Reagan had many helpful qualities in leading as POTUS, though he had his difficulties too.

Just about all presidents appeared to have full color to their hair when they entered office and come out silver haired, except Reagan and that might be because he cheated (the vanity of the flesh) and used hair coloring.   

It  appears that our Presidents and other world leaders going back who knows how long (clear back to Adam) have also been puppet dancers for Worldly powers that dictate the direction the Presidents are to follow , those that don't most always find themselves in the same tough situation that Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln  and John F Kennedy did, fear is a tough taskmaster that is not slack in overtaking mortal beings such as we are, though in Christ we overcome ALL fear all in our own due time and order and not before, that is as I personally see it.

 Fire Walker
Judgement and Punishment / Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Last post by Searching_For_The_Truth on January 04, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »
Happy New Year all. Earlier I saw that William Tapley has a new video out which predicts that Russia will nuke America and Great Brittan this year and uses various Bible Passages to make his case. The link for it is below. I would like to know all of your thoughts on it
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