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Christian Life / Re: 'In Christ'...How?
« Last post by gregoryfl on July 24, 2014, 01:49:26 PM »
As your minds are settled on the matter, then I will respectfully decline sharing anymore on the matter. I am not here to ruffle feathers or worse yet, make enemies. You are all my brothers and sisters in our common faith and Master, and that relationship means much more to me than trying to prove a point, especially on a matter that I believe does not affect one's salvation. I am not very familiar with mr. Pearson, although if he is saying there is no sin in the world, then I would have to say he is miles apart from what I understand this teaching to be about.

Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Psalms 55 Hell?
« Last post by Seth on July 24, 2014, 06:15:54 AM »
Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Psalms 55 Hell?
« Last post by jabcat on July 24, 2014, 06:12:01 AM »
 :thumbsup:  Agreed.  No one in the OT warned about it as a consequence of sin, God didn't use it to warn Adam and Eve, and Paul never did (who said he preached the WHOLE gospel).  I think it's impossible that ET could be an option if not ever warned about throughout the whole OT.   :2c:
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: The Eons in the Sacred Scriptures
« Last post by eaglesway on July 24, 2014, 06:05:24 AM »
It seems to me there was also a change in government after each of these eonian transitions.
Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Psalms 55 Hell?
« Last post by eaglesway on July 24, 2014, 06:02:08 AM »
Hell is a word that was applied to Sheol by men who were coerced to enforce a false doctrine with a deceitful translation. Any tru scholars among them were overuled by the professional clerics among them. If there is a hell(fiery torment, demons toruring and being tortured, infants women and children in torment forever) Moses or David or Isaiah would have said SOMETHING about it IN DETAIL- but no prophet of the old testament ever did, . :Chinscratch:
Thank You Jesus for being the "radiance of the Father's glory and the exact representation of His nature. Your love always shining through to give "the light of the knowledgfe of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

"His face was like the sun shining in its strength"

That light is LOVE! :o)
It is also true that the oppression of religious peer pressure and the fear of being dis-fellowshipped; along with being called a heretic and being threatened with eternal torment for questioning eternal torment- keeps many believers in bondage to the deception.
Christian Life / Re: 'In Christ'...How?
« Last post by eaglesway on July 24, 2014, 05:49:04 AM »
Amen and Amen!
Christian Life / Re: Tried to tell others about UR, didn't quite work
« Last post by eaglesway on July 24, 2014, 05:46:01 AM »
Yes, that is the general view. The specifics differ. Some folks think it is all in this life. Some think it is in the hereafter. Some think everyone goes through it. Some think it is only for unbelievers, but all UR believers believe it is for purification, not for torture, and definitely not endless.
Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Psalms 55 Hell?
« Last post by saintwalee on July 24, 2014, 04:59:36 AM »
SFTT Quote: "I am wondering if the following verse implies that Sheol and Hell are the same thing.
Psalms 55:15
Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them."

I think another point of view is to look at the body as a grave:

Mat 23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Luk_9:60  Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

"For wickedness is in their dwelling". Wouldn't this be the condition of the unrighteous, that wickedness dwells inside them?

The Youtube video halleluhah in hell describes this condition :

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