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Christian Life / Re: No marriage in heaven....
« Last post by rosered on April 25, 2015, 02:10:04 PM »
If there is NO marriage in the resurrection, then why is the marriage of the Lamb in the resurrection?

The Hebrew word for 'know' implies marriage intimacy. Is that the meaning in Mt 7?
Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Why would he say Ï have never been intimate with you, if the marriage wasn't until later?

Aren't the goals of the marriage to be 'fruitful and multiplying"?  Isn't the church now supposed to have the fruit of the Spirit? and multiply by making disciples?

Isn't marriage becoming one flesh?  So what is the body of Christ now?

  This   is awesome    !!     Now is the time    , even back than  :laughing7:
  I know Paul was speaking of making them chaste   virgins for Christ  , pure minded for that intimacy    2Corh 11

 1I wish that you would bear with me in a little foolishness; but indeed you are bearing with me.

2For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy;

 for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.

 3But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

   the 5 wise and 5 foolish parable ?   

 I do believe the examples are in the scriptures  comparing spiritual     law  with spiritual   things
   I see the example of the Woman born under law  applies   , the  law is spiritual    , but we are  children underbondage      the Agars as the earthly   Jerusalem  and     as Ishmaels   according to the flesh     , those are the adopted sons      so there you go !!

 Gal  4 …3So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world.

 4But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,

5so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.…ABBA FATHER
 as servants to sons       to the glory of God in the earth/ natural  as it is in heaven    /spiritual     and the discerning  between the two .
 Now the  awesome part to me is   ,     Birthing those sons of glory      by the  MOTHER OF US ALL    NEW JERUSALEM !!  We are no longer under the elements that must be  melted  with fervent heat   , the LOVE OF GOD    and consuming fire    being  HOLY SPIRIT    pure and holy  intimacy = conception   
 The heavenly one         :HeartThrob:  The true  ...Isaacs     the spirual children of Gods promise    and inherit" all things "

   The ones that are friends of the bridegroom represent /  the  prophets =John  the baptist   , them preachers   still exist today  as the wilderness  preachers  and friend  of Christ      "those that prepare the way to the coming of CHRIST    , and they are   the least of the kingdom 

 according to Jesus own word   here …    We everyone are" born of woman under the law"   or headship and authority  of HOLY SPIRIT WITNESS

 Matt 11 10"This is the one about whom it is written, 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER AHEAD OF YOU, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.' 11"Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist!

Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12"From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.
  I see the kingdom of God as a spiritual realm with those  healed and given  eyes to see and ears to hear and heart to understand / perceive  and receive the promises "  all things "of the Spirit      as inheriting    spiritual gifts though Jesus Christ         
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
« Last post by rosered on April 25, 2015, 01:34:20 PM »

  Hi Bob !!     
  Enjoying your posts!!    :dsunny:
   MUCH BLESSINGS !!!  Rose  :icon_flower:
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Mitch
« Last post by rosered on April 25, 2015, 01:31:58 PM »
Well Hi there everyone especially those who remember me from Kingdom Talk. It has been years!

I haven't heard from Alice Baum in years though when I talked to her about 8 years ago she was doing well with all her family living nearby.

I was sorry to hear about Robert Burgess passing and then Bill from Kingdom as well. We have today to live and need to live it to the fullest.

So is there any real good discussions going on that any of you can recommend?

  Hi Mitch ,

 There is a  intro on the upper left hand side that says ,Hello  Jmloy
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Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: preterism and universalism
« Last post by rosered on April 25, 2015, 01:25:50 PM »

  Hi all
  I do think some  preterists  have come and went   along the way   here at the Tent .
 I believe the history part as  signs and examples   of destruction of 70 AD   was important.
  Just as the   WW2  was also , the gathering   and scattering of the Jewish nation  and the remnant  that remained  as a few     was always     "of a truth " in the old testament  scriptures witness  and the reality    in the new testament  witness 
  It was both prophesied and fulfilled in that sense     , it was literal , every eye seen this,and  a record  was kept ,  as well as spiritual  , that  many eye witnesses   perceived ," a knowing truth"  in their spirit  .       

  I personally  , and its  me here  speaking ,    just   hate "labels "      No one ,is just one thing , we are ever changing    and are many things  to many natures .noun
the fundamental qualities of a person or thing; identity or essential character
(often capital, esp when personified) the whole system of the existence, arrangement, forces, and events of all physical life that are not controlled by man..Lord  it is a shame they fail to say GOD here for fear of offense   :sigh:
all natural phenomena and plant and animal life, as distinct from man and his creations
 A label  is   titles     given   or meant    for,  Mom to some  sister to others  , man or dad  or son or   brother   , spirit   or flesh    , good or evil   , and than there is the religious     labels    of what ever
  and than there is  the unbelieving     and faithless   ,  the wise and foolish in natures  also the    sexual in natures     , animal instinctively  in natures   

    Compared to     in the Bible    We are  as , cities     set on a hill ,     light   , darkness    wheat & chaff  , branches  ,     grapes      ,  beasts  , goats , sheep  , virgins  ,  children  , brothers , sisters ,  living stones  ,   wicked   , unclean ,  dead men  , rocks   ,wineskins probably all at the same time    etc ... :footmouth:

    One thing for sure God never Changes       and should remain the focus  , unless you like your head to spin  around  in circles  lol   :laugh: :wacko2:
 Also it is God Himself  who separates    and eliminates   and changes us   
Word Studies / Re: The Holy Spirit is also an angel.
« Last post by rosered on April 25, 2015, 12:49:52 PM »

  I   really loved this  :HeartThrob:    Breath of Life !!! :goodpost:  Everyone ,   Lots to consider     here ,,, Love being able to think  in more than just one way about things ...

 I have seen  animals with the" breath of life " spirit in them   being on a farm , its common    to see life and death   often  , and the minute the  breath leaves  them  , their  eyes change into deep pools of blackness
 and the corpse is  separated from that breath of life    that basically  carried them / animated /spirited  movement
 It also causes new cells to grow rapidly   , keeping the  whole  being  renewed   daily
 and when that leaves   all the cells  breakdown and decay
 I just wonder what a spiritual  being without flesh and blood  , but a glorified body  is  or looks like ?
    I don't think a moral man can see   the  spiritual realm   
 Yet ,I do believe in a spiritual realm   hidden from the eyes of mankind  does exist !!     who has ""a breath of life "in them as the token/tiny  portion   of the" Holy Spirit "in them from   the GREAT  UNCONTAINED  pure  ONE "    who does keep the mortal one  alive   ,    being the container   ,  for what it really   is  inside   that counts  ,   that is gathered back into  what it always was    , just apart  or separated from what was always  here  and called GOD  !    :HeartThrob:
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: preterism and universalism
« Last post by jabcat on April 25, 2015, 08:53:12 AM »
Hi Kevin..varying degrees, some "partial".  I don't personally know of any "full" preterists.  Gary has been described as at least partial, while a few others have labeled him as simply preterist.  I don't see him as fully preterist, as in ALL things 100% fulfilled already, "nothing left to do but live it out".  He stated at one point that "some very important things happened in 70 AD that we need to pay attention to", as well as saying he doesn't rule out some things having double fulfillment.  I'm personally probably partial, but definitely not full (to the max definition of the term).  Anyway, good question re: "are there any"...maybe someone knows of a full preterist UR believer. 
Welcome to the Tent!  I don't know much about Preterism, but have seen things posted about it which amaze me.  Perhaps you could enlighten?
Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by Seth on April 25, 2015, 08:31:57 AM »

"Stop gnashing your teeth at me, babe!"
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / preterism and universalism
« Last post by kevinq on April 25, 2015, 08:28:57 AM »
Hello;  I came to full preterism several years ago.  It answered all questions concerning eschatology but did not resolve my issues with eternal punishment.  I have always had a problem with God punishing a 70 year life forever.
Also, it did not fit with my concept of a loving God.  I leaned toward annihilation for awhile but it seemed to me that the enemy won more battles than God.  Did not seem right.  Slowly I came to the point of universalism.  I am now a Universalist/Preterist.  Are there others? 
Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by eaglesway on April 25, 2015, 07:07:31 AM »
You could even say, to paraphrase, "Do not go to sleep while u r still gnashing your teeth on the person u r angry at" :o)
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