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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Garden of Eden
« Last post by ed on August 21, 2014, 03:31:19 PM »
Also New Age thinking promises that people can become like Gods knowing good and evil.   Is universalism hostile to New Age thinking, or Eastern religions?

People know good and evil without any New Age thinking.

There are some aspects of New Thought(New Age and New Thought are two different things) that I like.  It goes in a good direction with  metaphysics, love, service, godliness, ect..................

If new thought was enough why the need for Jesus Christ?

If Jesus Christ is indeed Lord of all, then New Age will submit all honor to that reign.

At comes down to an affirmation or a denial.

Either rout you decide on will have its consequences, and in the end all will be drawn to Jesus Christ.  It is all a matter of when you get on the band wagon!

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Book of Revelation / Re: Drug Use and the End Times
« Last post by ed on August 21, 2014, 03:21:28 PM »
What is your view on drug use, the 1960s counter culture and whatnot?

It is best to not get hooked on drugs of any sort.  It becomes a monkey on your back that some never shake off.

Glad I could help.
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..........please read the book and you will realize that I am recommending a study that is as liberating to your understanding of The Revelation of John

I went to the link and did not buy.  When does Revelation Chapter 13 happen according to the author?

 :dsunny:





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Book of Revelation / Re: Devil Playing All Sides in the End Times
« Last post by ed on August 21, 2014, 03:08:24 PM »
I think the devil is using the false church (church of false teachings), and using people who have adopted a "do whatever you want" mentality, as  well as those into traditionally non-Christian religions.   

What do you think Jesus is doing?

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I only made the statement that the Book of Revelation is a positive book, no mention did I make that it was negative. Sorry :HeartThrob:
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Thank-you White Wings for the reference to the possible fellowship in Emerald in Victoria. I will follow-up and check them out. God bless you!
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Micah, please read the book and you will realize that I am recommending a study that is as liberating to your understanding of The Revelation of John as the Tentmaker studies are liberating in understanding the depth and profundity of the Gospel of Christ.
 In no way am I saying that The Revelation is a negative book. What I am saying is that there is a correct interpretation.
The title of the book is meant to grab your attention to the author's statement and cause you to be curious about what he has to say.
The Revelation is of course not embarrassing when correctly interpreted. When it does become embarrassing is when Christians try to explain it to others or non-Christians from an incorrect understanding or wrong teaching. Read the book & may you be blessed as I was.
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Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Hi New Member Here
« Last post by lomarah on August 21, 2014, 02:18:27 PM »
Lol touché WW.

Welcome Jason!
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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Garden of Eden
« Last post by lomarah on August 21, 2014, 02:17:17 PM »
(PS. Sorry for the lack of verse referencing but please feel free to google each verse and the book/chapter will pop right up for you! My memory for what God says is sometimes great, but where He put it in the bible is often a different story.)
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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Garden of Eden
« Last post by lomarah on August 21, 2014, 02:14:23 PM »
We did certainly die. We died to love/trust in God. ("Let the DEAD bury the dead...") If we are not abiding in the vine, which is Christ, we are dead (Christ said, "I am the vine, you are the branches, if a man remains in me and I in him he will bear much fruit. Apart from me you can do nothing.")

As for eternal (or ABUNDANT life), that is not exactly what christendom has told us it is. What did Jesus say it was? Abundant life is to KNOW GOD. We died to that life because we did not (and do not) truly know/trust/love our Father. If we did we would not have eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge (and continue to do so).

As for rejecting Christ, many who claim to "accept" or "believe" in Christ do not truly know Him at all. ("Many will say to me Lord, Lord...")

And YET! Christ came to reverse all of that. ("I, if I be lifted up, will draw ALL men unto myself." "As certainly as I live, declares the Lord, every knee will bow to me, and EVERY TONGUE WILL PRAISE GOD." "So that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW...")

And the best yet: "No longer will one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord', for THEY SHALL ALL KNOW ME..." (Remember what Christ told us abundant life is? Yep, KNOWING GOD!!)


As for universalism being hostile to New Age thinking, there are many varying beliefs among "Christian Universalists" just as there are among "eternal Hell believing Christians". Personally, although there are some "half-truths" within New Age religion, much of it has a very weird feel/overtone to me. Any teaching that leaves out Christ, for me, is definitely not worth paying a whole lot of attention to. That does not, however, mean I am hostile toward New Agers! They are on the same journey as the rest of us, being drawn back up to Him. :)


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