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"As hostile and objectionable our dear brethren may be, there are answers and explanations for every argument and/or insinuation presented against the undeniable fact, That God indeed is a God 'Who will have all men to be saved, and come into a knowledge of the truth (1Tim. 2:4). As greatly as man and their religious attempt to fight this utterly dynamic evangel (good news), God shall eventually be All in all (1Cor. 15:28)."

"But God is in no hurry. He has specific eons, and administrations within the eons, to fulfill His universal purpose and intention of universal reconciliation. All came out of Christ, including Adam. Consequently all shall be restored by and through Christ, 'yet each in his own class' (1Cor. 15:23)."

When clouds of confusion gather regarding God's plan for mankind, and despair come showering down upon our studies, turn to God's word originally rendered, then, like a searchlight in the darkness of night, His love, and His light of understanding will surely beam forth. God will not allow any to be eternally lost. He is a loving Creator, working out His purpose for the universe, Who will get love from all in return, so that He can and will be 'ALL in all,' to all, 'later.'"
TESTIMONIES (testify here!) / Re: everyday I see this forum title, so...
« Last post by Caffus on May 27, 2015, 06:58:18 AM »
Thank you for sharing, God bless you  :HeartThrob:
17On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days. 18Now Bethany was less than two milesb from Jerusalem, 19and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother. 20When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary stayed at home.

21"Lord," Martha said to Jesus, "if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask."

23Jesus said to her, "Your brother will rise again."

24Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

25Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"  John 11: 17 - 26

In light of my recent exploration of UR, it seems to me to be saying that some will pass from this life to the next, in faith, without dying, and others will have to 'die' in a different way, and then be saved. To me, this fits right in with what I am learning about the meaning of our purification, before the 'all in all' occurs.

I often thought of this as a strange passage, in the way it is said, but all of a sudden, it makes perfect sense to me now.

Any thoughts, folks? 
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. 9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority......

......18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.
Bible Verses Used to Assert Not All Will be Saved / Re: John 20:23
« Last post by eaglesway on May 27, 2015, 05:36:02 AM »
Jesus said, What is the difference if I say rise u and walk or your sins are forgiven you? But so you know the son of man has been given the authority on earth to forgive sin...... take up your bed and walk.(close I think from memory)

James said, "Are their any sick among you? Let them call upon the elders of the church, and the prayer of faith will save the sick and if they have any sins they shall be forgiven."(sins remitted)

He also spoke of those who would not repent after being taken before the whole congregation for correction, and said, "If they repent, you have won your brother, if not, Let them be as a heathen unto you".(sins retained)

Jesus gave the apostles the keys to the kingdom of God. He had received "all authority on heaven and earth" and He was passing that authority on to them for use among the ecclesia.


Book of Revelation / Re: I don't understand Revelations
« Last post by Tom on May 27, 2015, 03:25:15 AM »
"Everyone is saved and reconciled to God" at the consummation of the eons.

"through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens" (Colossians 1:20)

"Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing. For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead. For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence; thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power. For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy is being abolished: death. For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him. Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all." (1 Corinthians 15:20-28)
"Now, in praying, you should not use useless repetitions even as those of the nations." (Matthew 6:7)
:cloud9: This doesn't strike me as a vision the Lord would give or what He would say. I am always leary of Catholics visions because they always seem to involve Mary, who they worship as the queen of heaven, which she is not.

There is one intercessor for us, and He does not require us to repeat prayers designated to Mary on beads. Name one disciple who did so. Jesus was required to honor father and mother, and even He said who are my brethren, even those who do the will of my Father, when his mother and brethren were outside desiring to see Him. The flesh profits nothing, was His point. My  :2c:

Many Catholics believe that the 5 pebbles David used to defeat Goliath was a foreshadowing of the 5 decades of Mary's Rosary. Also, they believe Jesus will use Mary's Rosary to defeat the anti christ when he returns.
Book of Revelation / Re: I don't understand Revelations
« Last post by Joanna on May 27, 2015, 12:29:15 AM »
It says in Revelations 21:4 'He will wipe every tear from their eyes.  There will be no more death or mourning or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.'

This is a positive scripture verse. What does it mean?  Is it when everyone is saved and reconciled to God?
Bible Verses Used to Assert Not All Will be Saved / Re: The Red Veil
« Last post by rosered on May 26, 2015, 10:34:42 PM »

 Jesus says Judge what is right ....

 Discerning= having or showing good judgment:
Having  faith is  what God gives to    exercise   , try it out , see what works   and what does not work   , just like little children  whom lack fear   have  to learn first
  If I touch that hot stove I will be hurt  , and was told not to touch it for my own good and yet  learn though the experience   along with being   told   what is right
     and to learn to discern what is flesh is flesh and what is spirit   is spirit and learn what spirit is good and what spirit is evil    showing  good judgment
It starts within us ,  when Jesus said ,"Make the tree good and its fruit good   or make the tree   corrupt and its fruit corrupt, " A  TREE IS KNOWN [SHOWING ]  by its fruit "     good or evil   

 We  cannot begin to know anything  , till  our own tree  of knowledge of good and evil is   dealt with first       and   the struggle begins     
  Trying to   keep a spiritual law of God by our own    carnal minds  and they do not ever   agree ...  this battle   is within and what many fail to understand  its the power an principality    that can only be    won is JESUS CHRIST IN YOU  ,   this growing in truth and grace is the same way He overcome the world though His cross     and we follow Him in the same manner
  By reading the scriptures and  How He done it and    go on to experience these things in our own  walk in the Spirit     , because walking it out in the flesh is failure   every  time and every thing  and every way ,,,, I do believe that example was the scribes Pharisees and hypocrites      , they tried to  walk in the   spirit of self preservation        and failed the test   as seeing this as an earthly kingdom and could not see past it .
 Being as you shared John the  vail of the red    ...  flesh and blood has never inherited    Gods kingdom ,  only suffering     and  violence   &  death .
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