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Lounge / Re: Don't die until I return
« Last post by rosered on September 28, 2014, 07:35:06 PM »

 For me ,  Jesus was talking about , returning from the dead ,   IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH      , This HOLY SPIRIT
Jesus already had returned from the dead.
        Yes that  is  true   His  2nd coming    to me , I have always believed  Jesus will return to   us     when we are in the night and dark moments    and as individually  ,  Keeping the saying No man knows the time or the hour    when the SON OF MAN returns   

  but John had not  been  quickened  yet , Till Jesus come to Him
So was Jesus rousing the dead to life    under the  RENEWED SPIRIT &   Brightness of His coming ?
   they were all sleeping for sorrow    Luke 22     John was not expecting Him to come      , but He was  there   in GLORY !!   
 Johns revelation was as Lightning from the east to the west    Matthew   24 is to me  exactly    what happened to    the  SCATTERED  FLOCK   WHEN THE SHEPHERD  was stuck ....
   Matt 24
 15But whenever you will see the desecrated sign of desolation that was spoken by Daniel the Prophet, standing in the holy place, (he who reads should consider)

16Then those who are in Judea should flee to the mountains.

 17And the one who is on the roof should not come down to take what is in his house.

 18And he who is in the field should not return to take his clothes.

19But woe to pregnant women and to those who are nursing in those days.

20But pray that your escape will not be in winter, neither on the Sabbath.

 21For then there will be great suffering, which has not been from the beginning of the world even until now, neither will be

. 22If those days are not cut short no one would live, but because of the chosen ones, those days will be cut short.

23Then if someone will say to you, "Behold, The Messiah is here or there", you should not believe.

 24For false Messiahs will arise and Prophets of lies, and they will give great signs so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25Behold, I have told you beforehand.

26If therefore they will say to you, "Behold, he is in the desert", you should not go out, or "Behold, he is in an inner room", do not believe it. 27For just as lightning goes out from The East and appears unto The West, so will the coming of The Son of Man be. 28Wherever the body will be, there will the eagles be gathered.

29But immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will darken and the moon will not show its light, and the stars will fall from the heavens and the power of the heavens will be disturbed.

30And then the sign of The Son of Man in Heaven will appear and then all the families of the earth will mourn, and they will see The Son of Man who comes on the clouds of Heaven with miracles and many praises.

31And he will send his Angels with great trumpets, and they will gather his own elect from the four winds, from all the ends of the heavens.

32* But learn a parable from the fig tree: As soon as its branches bow low and its leaves bud forth, you know that summer has arrived.

 33So also, whenever you see all these things, know that he has approached the door. 34Amen, I say to you that this generation will not pass away until all these things happen.

35Heaven and Earth will pass away, and my words will not pass away.

36But about that day and about that hour no one knows, not even the Angels of Heaven, but The Father alone.

 37But just as the days of Noah, so will the coming of The Son of Man be.

 38For just as they were eating and drinking before the flood, and they were taking wives, and they were taking husbands, until the day that Noah entered the ark,

39And they did not perceive until the flood came and took them all away, thus will be the coming of The Son of Man. 40Then two will be in the field; one will be taken captive, and one will be left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken captive and one will be left.

42Wake up therefore, for you do not know in what hour your Lord will come

. 43But know this: if the house owner had known in what watch the robber would come, he would have been awake and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.

 44Because of this, be also ready, because at the hour in which you are not expecting, The Son of Man will come.

45Who then is the servant who is faithful and wise, whom his Lord has appointed over the children of his household, to give them food in his time? 46Blessed is that servant, whom, when his master will come, will find doing this.

47Amen, I say to you, he will set him over everything that he has.

48But if an evil servant will say in his heart, "My Lord delays to come",

 49And will start to beat his associates and eat and drink with drunkards,

 50The Lord of that servant will come on the day that he does not expect it, and in the hour in which he is not aware.

 51And he will cut him off, and he will set his portion with the phonies. There will be weeping and gnashing teeth."

For me     Tony  this is the very examples of what to look for  and to happen to us all in the Lords timing 

  Now please tell me what you believe   was the     return Jesus was talking about  ?   
  I am all ears now
Word Studies / Re: Has anyone read or heard of ?
« Last post by Tom on September 28, 2014, 07:23:23 PM »
I understand what you're both saying, and I agree it's good to be able to try to perceive things in the sense of the native language. I depend on a literal concordant translation into English from Greek and a concordance because I only know English. When I was younger, I learned Spanish and Latin easily, but my mind can't concentrate or remember well enough anymore to learn Greek or Aramaic. So I just try to use what seems to be the most accurate English translation which is not the most popular one, but at least it doesn't contain "hell" or "eternal." It's strange that, even English as it's spoken in various parts of the USA not mention the difference from that spoken in England, is different to hear and even understand because of different cultural influences. I think, if we diligently seek the truth, we will find it in scripture despite the differences in language. Even the many textual variances in the many Greek manuscripts of the so called New Testament don't hide the truth, and that's all the same language. I think folks who are paranoid of those who look, speak and live differently are keeping themselves from fully experiencing the wonderful diversity of life on this planet. I think the more we get to know those who appear different than ourselves, the more we realize we're all really the same inside. I think it's interesting to hear the different interpretations of scripture from different languages and even different people of the same language. I think we all have something to offer to the discussion. We all just see things from our own perspective. That doesn't mean we're right or wrong. It's just the way we see things. I think there is a difference between the relative and the absolute. I believe there is absolute truth, and that is the word of God. And we all have relative perspectives of that absolute truth.
Lounge / Re: Don't die until I return
« Last post by WhiteWings on September 28, 2014, 06:47:48 PM »

 For me ,  Jesus was taking about , returning from the dead ,   IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH      , This HOLY SPIRIT
Jesus already had returned from the dead.
Lounge / Re: Don't die until I return
« Last post by rosered on September 28, 2014, 06:24:13 PM »

 Hi Ww , aka   bro T , Tony
 Hope all is well Bro !!
 I love that question    :gimmefive:

 For me ,  Jesus was taking about , returning from the dead ,   IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH      , This HOLY SPIRIT
 to  be with them   continually    and always  in Them  , Same Spirit and Same truth as ONE

 was dead and alive  forevermore     same revelation of John   same John his disciple who walked with him in human form  but now    afraid seeing     Jesus  in the Spirit of prophecy /Truth ..
 John's Vision on Patmos
…17When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying,

"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last,

18and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.

19"Therefore write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.

John could have not wrote these things down on his own 

 It was His experience that   had to be written  down and    Revelation of Christ in Him that had to  be told 
  Witness      as a truth and proof   
  that Jesus did  indeed return   from the dead     and     was Going to The Father   to sit in the Throne as Judge

New International Version
Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

New Living Translation
Jesus replied, "I assure you that when the world is made new and the Son of Man sits upon his glorious throne, you who have been my followers will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

English Standard Version
Jesus said to them, "Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

New American Standard Bible
And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

King James Bible
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Jesus said to them, "I assure you: In the Messianic Age, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

International Standard Version
Jesus told them, "I tell all of you with certainty, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne in the renewed creation, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, governing the twelve tribes of Israel.

NET Bible
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth: In the age when all things are renewed, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Yeshua said to them, "Surely, I say to you who have come after me, in The New World when The Son of Man sits on the throne of his glory, you also will sit on twelve thrones and will judge the twelve Tribes of Israel."

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Jesus said to them, "I can guarantee this truth: When the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne in the world to come, you, my followers, will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 re·gen·er·a·tion noun \ri-ˌje-nə-ˈrā-shən, ˌrē-\
Definition of REGENERATION

:  an act or the process of regenerating :  the state of being regenerated
:  spiritual renewal or revival
:  renewal or restoration of a body, bodily part, or biological system (as a forest) after injury or as a normal process
:  utilization by special devices of heat or other products that would ordinarily be lost
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First Known Use of REGENERATION

14th century

reanimation, rebirth, revival, rejuvenation, rejuvenescence, renewal, resurgence, resurrection, resuscitation, revitalization, revivification
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re·gen·er·a·tion  noun \ri-ˌjen-ə-ˈrā-shən, ˌrē-\   (Medical Dictionary)
Medical Definition of REGENERATION

: an act or the process of regenerating : the state of being regenerated
: the renewal, regrowth, or restoration of a body or a bodily part, tissue, or substance after injury or as a normal bodily process <continual regeneration of epithelial cells> <regeneration of the uterine lining>—compare regulation 2a
 Thanks Seth and Simon ,I appreciate       you both answering  in different ways .

 I am going to   make this one post      for both  ,

  I did read   Isaiah   30   all of it and do see this as prophecy to be fulfilled in Christ    as Jesus Witness " He would  do this  very thing " .
 a deadly wound is healed  in Judah  ..    for me those  young lions  of Ezekiel 19    of failure , I see the beast natures of them  as Lions devouring one another .

 We know Jesus is of the Lion tribe of Judah       Rev 5 ;5 Then one of the elders said to me,

 "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed.

 He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals."
 I do believe  beyond a shadow of a  doubt  , when Jesus come     as a babe , lamb     in the fullness of time    and  grew strong in Spirit  Luke 1 :80 And the child grew and became strong in spirit; and he lived in the wilderness until he appeared publicly to Israel.

   and as He  ministered HE DID JUDGE   what was right in the sight of God , healing the broken and the poor and   prisoners    bound by sin and ignorance       a darkness of the Knowledge of God  , He also judged the scribes   ,  ones who had the word of God   and lawyers  who knew the Law  of Moses and   showed NO MERCY        with  2 or 3 false witnesses       and also judged the self righteous   Pharisees    those in power to make a difference and only abused this power to lord and master over the    weak and   pitiful , while they  become more fat and wicked  with every    turn  , to become prey  themselves in the end to Gods  wrath  against them
 they put Jesus to death  , they did not  desire this King over them    , they wanted to reign as kings themselves   for a time    and everyone was at their mercy    and used the Law of Moses to destroy others
  just as we see it  being fulfilled in the east  countries  even now !!    they say they SEE  , because they know the Law  and still reject Jesus Christ to this very day
 so the same sin /error remains    , they have stumbled over the  stumbling   STONE and rock of offense   
  We also can  be as they are and  not even realize it   , we want Law and justice and  hate sin   and  yet    allow our own sins and   the ones we love and support as   forgiven and ignored     ,      But still     wont forgive them ???

 I agree with you Simon , you have made a very good      case  , If we accept the Cross of Jesus Christ as the place to lay  down   sin   in our own lives and  the judgment of sin    as Christ being the Just Judge     so being the Lord of the dead and living     
  and allow Him to fulfill all things   by faith trusting His judgement        as righteous   there would be no need to judge  anything before its time , because the TIME      would be when the LORD COMES   
  and our witness would be   to declare His righteousness  in the earth and  help    those whom are broken and bound and    are still under    guilt   because of sin 
How can they be set free unless the LORD COMES ?   and How does He come  ?
   the Brightness of His coming       in the SAME SPIRIT OF HOLINESS AND TRUTH            to them as was also given to us
   to put that old man of sin to death and make the new man in Christ  ALIVE to God  for Gods own purpose  .
   For me the spirit of slumber is very much upon the churches   today       fulfilling the  10 virgins parable   even today !!  the wise and foolish ones   still  exist

  Romans 11 7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened; 8just as it is written, "GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
 For one thing who is Israel but Gods first born     ?  but is  Gods  chosen and who is  Christ Jesus but HIS OWN   SON 

Being  under the Law of Moses     the curse was   to kill the first born son      , that is the same spirit of slumber  /stupor 
  being   under     is bondage and overcoming is on top  of that very Law of the knowledge of  good and evil         
  Jesus is the Tree of Life     and we all must overcome the knowledge of good and evil in order to  EAT  of the tree of life
   Jesus said make the tree good and its fruits good   or make it corrupt     and also its fruit      a tree is KNOWN   by its fruits
   How are we to be KNOWN ?       To be Like Jesus  , a tree of life  ? ,  or the corrupt tree    still under the same sin and corruption      that has always been   in Gods  garden 

  Jesus hung on the tree of knowledge of good and evil      , that was HIS CROSS TO BEAR !!      same cross we have to follow  Him  into   that baptism of death
  in order  for the    sin  to end        , that  Satan or no man can condemn   accuse  nor     judge    for    the  TREE OF LIFE    to come
  If sinless perfection is    to be the new creatures in Christ WE  have to OBEY        HIS WORDS  BY HIS SPIRIT     , THIS RESURRECTION   and Life   
 HOW ??        for one Jesus tells us exactly how to overcome the world     and its sinful  sway
 We have to fight against a  carnal  nature that     wants to   rule and reign  and have dominance        and power over   everything     that crosses our path 

 and cannot ever justify it with scriptures    and a spirit in a man      , these will not do   ever !! :sigh:
   When you let  Christ   reign your heart  , you will  rest in hope,    a true hope       and not become weary     
 I was looking at the evil one      yesterday          , that one we must overcome    every last one of us    , God is fair     , it can only be       though Christ   power and blood     and not of ourselves
  the evil one  or  just evil is full of toils and hardships and  sickness and   troubles  , just as we see in   the world    , this WITNESS   against Christ

 and you know what ? it goes  all the way back to cain      , YES CAIN !!      the same curse God places on him   , being a man   and his brothers blood   he spilled on the ground    by anger and jealousy     

 Cain has a mark on him that any man kill him  ,  he was under the  7 fold curse  ,  but cain was banished from  Gods presence  and  set out to wander    and would produce nothing   but labors and toils and   troubles and everything he   put his hand to turned   to  nothing good !!
 I believe this is the wrath of God abiding on the children of disobedience   ,

 TWO marks/As  signs         As  any man   who wanted to kill him was also given   this curse    as a mark of the beast ,    cannot buy trade or sell   their own souls /lives   for the     the truth nor eat of the fruits of the Spirit   and life , tree of Life
 as the wrath of God  is upon him
  and those with the mark of Christ  are sealed  till the day of redemption    and the wrath of God does not  abide or dwell on  or in  them  , but the wrath of man  does

 Allegory  , in   Galatians 4

 You Are Children of the Promise
21 Those who want to be controlled by Moses' laws should tell me something. Are you really listening to what Moses' Teachings say? 22 Scripture says that Abraham had two sons, one by a woman who was a slave and the other by a free woman. 23 Now, the son of the slave woman was conceived in a natural way, but the son of the free woman was conceived through a promise made to Abraham.

24 I'm going to use these historical events as an illustration. The women illustrate two arrangements.[c] The one woman, Hagar, is the arrangement made on Mount Sinai. Her children are born into slavery. 25 Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia. She is like Jerusalem today because she and her children are slaves. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 Scripture says:

"Rejoice, women who cannot get pregnant,
    who cannot give birth to any children!
    Break into shouting, those who feel no pains of childbirth!
    Because the deserted woman will have more children
        than the woman who has a husband."
28 Now you, brothers and sisters, are children of the promise like Isaac.

29 Furthermore, at that time the son who was conceived in a natural way persecuted the son conceived in a spiritual way. That's exactly what's happening now. 30 But what does Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, because the son of the slave woman must never share the inheritance with the son of the free woman." 31 Brothers and sisters, we are not children of a slave woman but of the free woman.
   the seeds of the two   that come   from the tree of knowledge of good and evil   [of Adam & Eve  eating of the forbidden   tree   produced    death & life ]       are enmities   of  the head and the  heel bruising  /wounds of   striking    each other as blows 

 But Jesus Christ come to   fulfill  all the law  ,   of both trees   , the knowledge of Good and evil and the  tree of Life   
   He come to open the seals of the Book  . law of Moses    and  make known by the knowledge of God     , so BOTH SONGS are Sung in the heavens       ,  song of Moses and the  song of the Lamb       Deut  32    Exodus 15
  under the    2 or 3 witnesses   AS   MERCY   !,         Both the old and new testaments and    by His own Spirit of  Truth   & the Word of God
 This is soooo  long     , sorry  if it does not hold interest        in some ,   The  thing is there is a lot more
HE is Good.
Lounge / Don't die until I return
« Last post by WhiteWings on September 28, 2014, 04:36:28 PM »
Which return Jesus was talking about

John 21:15-25 (HRB2012)
15 Then when they dined, Yahshua said to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me more than these? He said to Him, Yes, Master, You know that I love You. He said to him, Feed My lambs!
16 Again He says to him, secondly, Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me? He says to Him, Yes, Master, You know that I love You. He said to him, Shepherd My sheep!
17 Thirdly, He said to him, Simon son of Jonah, do you love Me? Peter was grieved that He said to him a third time, Do you love Me? And he said to Him, Master, You perceive all things, You know that I love You! Yahshua said to him, Feed My ewes!
18 Truly, truly, I say to you, When you were younger, you girded yourself, and you walked where you desired. But when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you, and will carry you where you do not desire.
19 But He said this signifying by what death he would glorify Elohim. And having said this, He told him, Follow Me.
20 But turning, Peter saw the disciple whom Yahshua loved following them, who also leaned on His breast at the Supper, and said, Master, who is the one betraying You?
21 Seeing him, Peter said to Yahshua, Master, and what of this one?
22 Yahshua said to him, What is it to you if I desire that this man remain until I return? You come and follow me!
23 Therefore, the word went out to the brothers that that disciple does not die. Yet Yahshua did not say to him that he does not die, but, If I desire him to remain until I come, what is that to you?

24 This is the disciple witnessing concerning these things, and writing these things. And we know that his witness is true.
25 And there are also many things, whatever Yahshua did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose the world itself could not contain the books having been written. Amen.
Word Studies / Re: Has anyone read or heard of ?
« Last post by gregoryfl on September 28, 2014, 03:28:13 PM »
Although the text I use is the Eastern Aramaic text, I do not subscribe to a superior/inferior mentality when I refer to the Pecrapta. I refer to it simply because it is what I use. I often hesitate to do so because, as has even been shown on this board, when I have done so there usually is at least one response that promotes the Greek over the Aramaic, as though that should totally discredit the Aramaic witness. Even though I also read from the Aleppo Codex Hebrew text, I also love reading from the Greek septuagint, because, in my opinion, BOTH are vital for gaining insight. I know of those who promote what is commonly called 'Aramaic Primacy', a term which I despise because it sets up the Aramaic as superior to the Greek, which ends up in endless arguments and fights over words.

I agree with John that it is very beneficial to read and become familiar with the Aramaic witness, for in reading it you will see some interesting differences from the Greek, just as you do when reading the Masoretic Hebrew text alongside the Greek Septuagint. For most who do not read Aramaic and need to use a translation, yes, there will be problems just as with other translations from the Greek witnesses. Joe pointed out one, which is not the fault of the Aramaic, but of the translator. He or she chose to use the word 'eternal' in their translation, which is neither what the Greek or Aramaic witnesses say.



This is not to say that our efforts are not essential or that there will be nothing for us to do since it is God Who saves us from our failings. To the contrary, God graciously saves us by causing us to work, "training us that, disowning irreverence and worldly desires, we should be living sanely and justly and devoutly in the current eon" Titus 2:11,12. But our efforts are merely a product; they are the means through which God saves us. We contribute nothing.

It is not a question of our discipline and volition, but of pride and self-reliance concerning our discipline and volition, of boasting in the flesh instead of glorying in the transforming power of God. As long as we continue to see ourselves, in the final sense, as the key to anything, we will remain proud, antagonistic to "the grace of God in truth" Col. 1:6.

It is one thing to conceive of ourselves, in a dutiful sense and relatively speaking, as "cooperating" with the Lord Jesus, as He leads us into paths of better service. It is quite another, however, proudly to fancy ourselves to be so utterly independent of the Supreme Deity Himself, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, that even He is at a loss to change our will or walk without our help.

Luke 6:32-35 shows us what God's grace (thanks) is; He is gracious to the wicked, which means sinners like we all were when He was gracious to us. It's not that we have to preach so they can be saved, otherwise we're responsible for their "eternal damnation", and they have to receive the message (if we happen to present it to them), or else they will be eternally damned. Salvation is not based on human actions, but on divine actions. He chooses who to save and when, and at that moment, that soul is saved. And He will save all, as He has clearly said He will do.

We believe the message we heard, and we preach because we are so commanded, but God doesn't depend upon us to save ourselves, nor does He depend upon our conveying the message, to save others. He is the only Sovereign, and He so arranges EVERYTHING that each will be saved. Free will and chance are myths which have completely twisted the mindset of many Christians.

 39And Yeshua said, "For the judgment of this world I have come, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind."

 40And those of the Pharisees who had been with him heard these things and they said to him,

 "Are we also blind?"

 41Yeshua said to them,

"If you were blind, you would not have sin, but now you say, 'We see.' Because of this, your sin stands."

 So is it that ,   those that judge are being judged by the very law they   speak in favor of !!!    when the sin remains it is a stain    or mark of division  as a filthy garment    or nakedness even ?    :eek:

Lots of truth in your great post of scriptures, Rose :)

As for the pharisees, even they find mercy..For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Still, yes, that law which they served under (in bondage) was also that which judged them.
We also can fall into this well-stocked pit. For if we upgrade (or, more rightly, downgrade) the writings from Mathew to Revelation into laws to which we are subject, we place ourselves back under the same bondage of the Pharisees. For by the same principle, whereby James said that "whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble at one point, is guilty of all" we become obliged to all the instructions, precepts and commands of these books. (James 2:10). Guilty of one, guilty of all..

Praise God for the cross (the actual New Testament - Luke 22:20). It's the place to be! Especially for those who have found themselves unable to keep laws - whatever sort and however few or many they may be :).

This is why Paul said the New Covenant is not written (2 Corinthians 3:6) - for when we attempt to reduce, define and limit the New Covenant with written words they soon become mere laws, and we rebuild that system of law, sin and death which - for our freedom - Christ came to destroy.

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. (NIV)

So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law.

If we are not under law who can judge us?

 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. (Romans 8: 32-34)
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