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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Justification, repentance, salvation?
« Last post by bushy on December 18, 2014, 11:04:48 PM »
"But isn't faith simply believing the truth?"

The Hebrew understanding of "faith" is from "enumah" which means more than simply believing the truth, but being "faithful." Faithfulness is about fidelity and obedience, which is why I believe James associated Abraham's obedient works with his faith as being inseparable concepts from eachother.

Oh no, maybe I'm not faithful enough or obedient enough. Or what if I don't hold firm until the end. I'm tired of worrying about details like these and I don't believe you're trying to lay any of these kinds of things on anyone. I think there are multitudes of people confused because they think it is up to them to figure all this out and all they need is to find peace and rest.

Of course I also know this forum is for solving all the problems and understanding all the mysteries in the world.  :rolllol:
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Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by sheila on December 18, 2014, 11:03:51 PM »
...and they surrounded the camp of the Holy city  He loves...and fire come down from heaven and devoured[consumed] them
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Justification, repentance, salvation?
« Last post by Tom on December 18, 2014, 11:02:15 PM »
Amen
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Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by Tom on December 18, 2014, 11:00:45 PM »
A few quick thoughts:

I thought the weeping and gnashing of teeth could also refer to those who initially experience the LoF in the White Throne Judgement. Those really rebellious against God would wake up and may initially be angry, but they also weep (lament). Those described in Acts 7 do not weep at all.

And the scriptures also refer to being "cast" or "thrust" (G1544) which would be an occurrence of something being expelled. Into the LoF?

I can see this as being figurative in Matthew and Luke as told by Christ. But I cannot see the connection between outer darkness and the LoF. Darkness befor the occurence of the LoF???

 :dontknow:

I think the outer darkness is referring to exactly that because I think the kingdom of the heavens will be in Jerusalem where there will plenty of light, but those cast outside will not experience that. I don't think this has anything to do with the lake of fire.
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Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by sheila on December 18, 2014, 10:56:51 PM »
...transgressing of the law had a built in covenant curse..of demonic possessed children.......Jesus message of comfort grace and

 forgiveness with healing to man was not happily received.  His authority over all...meant the authority of the evil spirits to

   plague man and all covenant curses of death through disobedience were finished.

     I will not always be wrathful..for then the very spirit would fail......

        O'death where is thy sting! O'death I SHALL BE THY PLAGUES.................Kingdom of darkness..........Kingdom of light

    a great light has come! when God causes His face to shine upon men.......

          HALLELUJAH!
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Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by sheila on December 18, 2014, 10:45:48 PM »
Please note the above mentioned religious spirit was sitting in the congregation when the Christ was speaking about setting the

 captives free...........and note it's immediate objection.  we see this today..when by the spirit[of Christ] we proclaim the

salvation deliverance of all men...a good news gospel of grace........
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Justification, repentance, salvation?
« Last post by micah7:9 on December 18, 2014, 10:44:14 PM »
My faith is in the faith of Jesus Christ.
Rom 3:22 yet a righteousness of God through Jesus Christ's faith, for all, and on all who are believing, for there is no distinction,
Gal 2:16 having perceived that a man is not being justified by works of law, except alone through the faith of Christ Jesus, we also believe in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by the faith of Christ and not by works of law, seeing that by works of law shall no flesh at all be justified."
Gal 3:22 But the scripture locks up all together under sin, that the promise out of Jesus Christ's faith may be given to those who are believing."
 :2c: :HeartThrob:
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: Happy Birthday Nate !
« Last post by RonnyTX on December 18, 2014, 10:43:15 PM »
Happy Birthday Nate! :-)
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Bible Threatenings Explained / Re: Gnashing of teeth does not suggest torture
« Last post by sheila on December 18, 2014, 10:40:45 PM »
my  :2c:  the tax collectors and harlots are entering the kingdom ahead of you...you don't go in and hinder those who attempt.

  it was the self-righteous hypocritical religious leaders that gnashed their teeth at Him...and were 'cut off' from the way of peace

  with God. there is a demonic self-righteous evil spirit..that appears as an angel of light[religious leader sitting on

throne..showing himself he is god]

   the demon said...'I know who you are Jesus,did you come to torment us before the time"   blind captive men are led astray

  of this religious evil spirit...they will kill you and think they are doing a service for God...  the Lord will do away this man

 of sin[he is not a man of God!] with the breath of HIS COMING IN POWER AND GLORY
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Christian Life / Re: The New Testament was written in Hebrew (not Greek)
« Last post by rosered on December 18, 2014, 10:35:12 PM »
       

   Not trying to be disrespectful here



  but Micah  ,    I just about rolled off my chair  :mlaugh: :msealed: :mblush: :pointlaugh:  :rolllol:
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