From WW post #63
John even saw himself in Rev 4:4 because the 24 elders are the 12 original tribal elders and the 12 kingdom elders.
I see this differently:
Before the time of revealing of the opening of the 7 seals we are introduced to the happenings in the throne room of God.
Rev 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.
Since these beings have thrones, they have some type of delegated authority from God. They are termed "elders" (from the Greek "presbyteros") which generally refers to wisdom from age. It may be that they resemble aged men. Possibly these elders may have been among the beings created some time in the past even before the Cherubim and angelic realm. Before the physical universe was created. Since their white robes (EXO 28) and golden crowns (LEV 8:9) parallel the dress of the Levitical priests, these spiritual elders may presently serve in heaven as priests of God under the High Priest, Jesus Christ; their primary role does seem to be the continual worship of God. If they are spirit elder priests, then God inspired David to choose 24 courses of Levitical priests to equal the number of the elders around His throne.
The reality is that the earthly stuff is just a shadow of the heavenly IMO
Hi Joe I thought about this for a bit and considered them to be the watchers and of the Ancients in Daniel they ate the ones determining King Nebuchadnezzar
sentence watchers Strong's H5894 - `iyr the guardians watchers scriptures in Daniel 4
Hebrews 11;2 And by this there was a testimony/witness concerning the ancients
here is some of the scriptures concerning them
Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down
, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
thrones cast down
lDan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
lDan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Here are the remaining matches.
Job 12:12 With the ancient is wisdom; and in length of days understanding.
Psa 77:5 I have considered the days of old, the years of ancient times.
Isa 23:7 Is this your joyous city, whose antiquity is of ancient days? her own feet shall carry her afar off to sojourn.
Isa 51:9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old
. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them
: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus
, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Just really do not know ,
I did noticed some it was for the testimony of Jesus being the new testament and the Word of God being of the old testament ,
but thought it was interesting