« Last post by onesimus on September 20, 2014, 02:01:23 PM »
i appreciate all that you and the others have been trying to help me with in this nightmare....i just read another thread here about hebrews 6:4-6 and 10:26-31...even if am forgiven fo rhwat i thought was blapshmey of the hs, then what about being in an apostate/reprobate condition? i know his spirit is not with me and so how can his grace an dlove and mercy still apply to me? i am unable to repent unless god works it into my heart an di right now feel very "stuck" which is why i chose my "name"...i know i feel sorry for all i have done...i know i want to be changed and to be restored, but according to those verses its impossible....if the cu[being purged and reconciled] is wrong i can only look forward to the wrath and hatred of god who will throw me into a lake of fire which is torment forever...i never wanted to think of god as being this way, but after these scriptures suggest and then many ot stories about how he seemed to be angry all the time and seeking to destroy his enemies[even though we are supposed to love our enemies-confused in this]...he is very capable of of being unmericiful to those whom he hates and has turned against....why did paul write about those whom he "fashioned" to be evil/wicked to be set apart for the day of destruction and that those who are not his elect were predestined for this? it seems everything-god and the scriptures- are against me... the more i try to find hope in scriptures, the more convinced i am i have no hope because of them-they are his word and he means what he says...
Hi LB, I read your post and see you are in a lot of torment...I pray to the Lord, that he would send you peace... Do you have anyone around you? Is there someone you can ask to help you with this and pray with you or that you can just spend some time with?
I'm a little hesitant to answer you regarding the verses in Hebrew. They really have nothing to do with you in your current situation - even though you are convinced they do (psst: don't trust anything your head says. The human mind is often like a runaway train :)). Also, I think that your present state might make it very difficult to filter a lot of bible analysis, especially in a way that comforts you. Maybe shutting the bible for a while might be a good idea....and asking God just to give you some peace and guidance, rather than pouring over scriptures continually, particularly the ones that are challenging (even to the guys with 'theologian' printed on their business card :) )
Having said that, if you find yourself compulsively going back to Hebrews, please keep this in mind, when reading the verse:
"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance...."
The word impossible means unable or powerless - in the way that a person can be powerless and unable to bring something about. It does not mean impossible in the way that it can't happen. In this verse, it means that man does not have the power or ability to bring himself back to repentance and salvation...
In this case, we are all powerless/unable to effect salvation. Whether we have already tasted it or whether we are not yet in it..
The exact same word is used here in Matt 19:25, when the disciples asked Jesus who can be saved..
"When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
We are all dependent upon God to work his salvation in us. We're all in the same boat (And it's not the titanic..)
Everything is ok..