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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by lastpost on April 16, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »
In fact - and I do not want to make it sound trite - I could discuss Christ endlessly because He keeps "returning" and lifting me up, as it were.
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by lastpost on April 16, 2014, 06:58:26 PM »
Yes Seth, thank you, indeed. Well, I firmly believe that I have a spirit and know people who also have this belief, in fact they would say that they "know" that they have a spirit.

As for Christ's Spirit - I believe that He is with us all the time, and "special" Presence, as it were, is given when appropriate ("when two or three...").
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by Seth on April 16, 2014, 05:27:42 PM »
I think the "gather together" scripture does not depend on physical proximity.

1 Corinthians 5
3For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. 4In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus,


All the elect are gathered together in spirit whether or not they are scattered abroad, and Christ is among them.
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by lastpost on April 16, 2014, 03:50:35 PM »
Dear Cardinal, it is nice to hear from you.

Certainly, we have no priests or laity (although someone has to service the building and that is myself). People come because they want to commune together in the Name of Jesus Christ in their way – others can do it in their own preferred way and they do.

As you say, where two or three are gathered together in His Name there He is amongst them – He is interested in the heart not the letter. Jesus is their right and the priests have turned the people away and denied them entrance to Him by their letter: "No, you do not worship God because the letter says…", "Christ does not feel your love because you do not believe what we say you must believe..."

It is time for ordinary people to know the Gift of Christ is free from all that, then they will see what a tangle others have got themselves in – it is between Him and them. It is that simple, as are all things of Christ.

In His Love and Peace.
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by Cardinal on April 16, 2014, 02:08:42 PM »
 :cloud9: @ lastpost. Enjoyed your post, but regarding the structure needed, I do see what your saying, but if I could but add the rest of this as I see it.........IMO.........The LORD IS the structure, the LORD'S will as revealed by His Spirit in the assembly, even if it's two in a grocery store, IS His ORDER. WE are the temple of the living God, and wherever WE ARE, THERE IS THE BODY/ASSEMBLY.

Whenever two or more of you are gathered in My name/nature, there I AM in the midst of you. Where the Shepherd-King is, THERE SHOULD BE FEEDING AND PETITIONS BEING ANSWERED, going on from the Head. The sin of the Nicolaitans which He said He hates, was separating the clergy from the laity.

The reason He hates it, is because it's taught His sheep to be fed of men who stood up between Him and His bride, and there cannot be 2 men in the bed, and soon there won't be! PTL, one WILL be taken, but it's not the one they imagine to themselves! Those that have condemned homosexuals from the pulpit as the head, will find that their very sin is what made the body open to the homosexual spirit in the first place. The body can only do what it sees it's head do.

Seeing the true body enables Him to be free to go when and where HE chooses, IN US, to do His will, amongst the body, which is found EVERYWHERE. Blessings....
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by WhiteWings on April 16, 2014, 04:09:37 AM »
:cloud9: Easy. Worship is also praise and prayer. I don't have to agree with a thing they say to worship God with them. I just don't listen to their fables.  :banana:
I get that  but it takes out the  corporate for me.
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Christian Life / Redressing the Balance
« Last post by lastpost on April 15, 2014, 10:25:13 PM »
Today I paid a couple of hundred pounds to have a notice appear in the newspaper on Good Friday (there is no price to be put on loving He who is LOVE). This is for various reasons, one of which is that I have noticed a lot more derision for Christ lately in the paper and it was necessary to redress the balance. Also, people should be allowed to know that they can simply love Jesus!...

An extract from: "The Link Between Easter And Harvest Time" given by the Unnamed Scribe on Sunday, April 5th, 1942.

"Spirit Communion was ordained by God so that you might learn, so that you might have sufficient discrimination not to be deceived by earthly reasoning or by the earthly aspect of things, so that you could bring light to those in darkness.

"What of you who think you are nearing your Easter Day - these are numbered amongst those who have had a fierce blow yet were determined to hold fast to Christ. Think of the Master's words: "I THIRST!' The Master thirsted for the love of humanity. The bodily agony was as naught in comparison with the desire for the sweet spray of love to pour upon Him.

"But there were only the few. The others mocked and derided, and the burning pain of unrequited love scorched His tender Heart: 'I THIRST!'

"When you are in trouble, when it feels that life has been unfair, remember the words of Christ: 'I THIRST', and give Him the sweet spray of your understanding love."

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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by ed on April 15, 2014, 10:21:31 PM »
Things are happening!

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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by lastpost on April 15, 2014, 10:09:52 PM »
As the subject of churches and worship has come up, it may or may not be of interest to some but I will write it anyway.

On Friday, after I have finished my shift at the hospital (collecting hospital refuse) in my church we are having a short and simple service although there will be but a handful of humans, as I have done for the last two decades or so.

Essentially, I will just read the sayings of the Cross and a pertinent paragraph or two about each from the Holy Book. It will go something like this...

MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.

VERILY, I SAY UNTO THEE, TODAY SHALT THOU BE WITH ME IN PARADISE.

FATHER, INTO THY HANDS I COMMEND MY SPIRIT.

WOMAN, BEHOLD THY SON, (then said He to the disciple) BEHOLD THY MOTHER.

I THIRST.

IT IS FINISHED!


These will be interspersed throughout the service but I will not trouble you with the text surrounding the sayings which you already know well.

A hymn may be sung here or maybe later.

Then I may read:

"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion: Thy God reigneth! Thy watchman shall lift up the voice; with the voice together they sing, for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion.

Who hath believed our report, and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? For He shall grow up before Him a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comliness; and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were our faces from Him.
"

Then we may say the Lord's Prayer and then I may pray:

O Tender Father, we thank Thee for the gift of Thy Son Jesus Christ, Who came to live on Earth as man, to be our example in loving obedience to Thy Will. In His great love He endured the agony of the Garden and the Cross that He might bring all men into fellowship with Thee. Grant us Thy Holy Spirit so that we may have grace to follow in His footsteps, and work with Him to establish Thy kingdom of peace on Earth, to the glory of Thy Name. Amen.

Then I may read:

"Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes, we are healed.

All we, like sheep, have gone astray; we have turned, everyone to his own way.

He was afflicted; yet he opened not His mouth. He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before the shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgement; and He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death, because He had done no violence; neither was any deceit in His mouth.
"

Then I may pray something like:

LORD Jesus, by Thy loneliness and suffering on the Cross, draw near unto all who are desolate and in pain or sorrow this day.

Heal the sick,
Comfort the bereaved,
Sustain the anxious.

Visit with Thy redeeming love all who are in trouble. May Thy Presence transform their loneliness into comfort, and their darkness into holy fellowship with Thee. Amen.


Then I may pray:

O Saviour Christ, Whose love is without measure, grant unto us a greater consciousness of our frailty and our weakness. May we ever remember Thy cry of loneliness on the Cross so that if we should ever be in seeming desolation this link with Thee might bring forth our courage, and raise our souls closer to God, our Father, even as Thou didst in Thine hour of agony. Amen.

Then I may say something like:

Let us remember the comforting and blessed words of the promise of our Lord:


"If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. Ye are My friends if ye do whatsoever I command you. These things I command you, that ye love one another."

Then I may read this poem:

"His are the thousand sparkling rills,
That from a thousand fountains burst,
And fill with music all the hills,
And yet, He saith, "I thirst."

All fiery pangs on battlefields,
On fever beds, where sick men toss,
Are in that human cry He yields,
To anguish on the Cross.

But more than pains that racked Him then
Was the deep longing, thirst Divine,
That thirsted for the souls of men.
Dear Lord, and one was mine!

O Love most patient, give me grace,
Make all my soul athirst for Thee,
That parched dry lip, that fading face,
That thirst - were all for me.
"
(Mrs. C. F. Alexander)

Then I may pray:

Almighty Father, we humbly beseech Thee mercifully to behold this, Thy family, for which our Lord Jesus Christ was willing to be betrayed and delivered into the hands of wicked men, and to suffer death upon the Cross.

Grant that we may so accept the gift of His sacrifice that we may glorify His Name by our living service to all, and in company with saints, martyrs, prophets and just men and women, be worthy to partake also of Thy blessing, through the love and power of Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.


Then I may say something along these lines:

Dear Friends, in remembrance of our Saviour's love for all mankind, shown at Calvary, we have tried to follow Him in our hearts and minds along the road of His physical and spiritual agony to the Cross, and the surrendering of His earthly life for the help of mankind.

What is the lesson we learn from this? Is it not that in degree we shall likewise be willing to suffer for the sake of those we love? Also to ever remember that our duty to those who are near and dear to us is to try and influence them to face their troubles with calmness, and to hold fast to faith in spite of all that would assail.

As we go back over the past in the Sacred Record we read for our learning of the many noble souls who suffered in order to raise up humanity from the materialism and evil of the world in the Name of God Almighty. And because these souls lived and worked for God, we can draw inspiration from them in His Name, and in the hour of test and trial show something of endurance. In the degree that this is possible, so will be our joy in the Life to come, where service with perfect freedom shall be the portion of such.

May the strength be given so that our courage may never fail, and may the Holy Spirit guide us ever into the way of spiritual peace.

Now unto Him Who loved us and gave Himself for us, be praise and worship and glory, with the Father, for ever. Amen.


This may or may not be the format - it often changes on the day - the true offering to God comes from within and not without. However, in order for different people to come together in a quiet and peaceful manner which lays aside the material world and its thinking for a while, there must be some type of structure in place to hold a harmonious gathering.

Peace.
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by Cardinal on April 15, 2014, 08:33:31 PM »
 :cloud9: Easy. Worship is also praise and prayer. I don't have to agree with a thing they say to worship God with them. I just don't listen to their fables.  :banana:
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