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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:24:16 AM »
So, if the woman whose boss schedules her for work on Sabbath, if she doesn't do it, her faith is doubted?

If a woman has faith in Christ, does she need to choose between her schedule at work and the Sabbath day? After all, faith without works is dead, as you have said. So, the woman does not do the work of the Law to abstain from working on Sabbath in order to keep from being fired, his her faith dead?

Your doctrine is exposed.



I said Faith in that particular matter---not your faith as a whole

we have only a measure of faith  some have a greater measure than others in some areas

if you don't have the faith in a particular area--then don't do it until you have it   :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

You have avoided my question because you understand the implications of your doctrine upon the poor.

you just don't understand faith and the Power of Yah--your accusations against me are of none effect

is anything impossible with Yah ??? Does he have all Power ??? all wisdom ??? im afraid brother for you--

Yah can take an impossible situation and make Possibilities--or in essence he can turn it around.

if you don't have  enough faith to believe then that is fine--keep believing what you believe until Yah shines his light upon you and grants you more faith  :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:


my dear Brother--may Yah bless you richly in his good pleasure--and I will pray for you because of your accusations against me   :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:13:55 AM »
To share my anniversary example again, to do so does not come naturally up from within my heart. It is a tradition I learned from others and chose to follow. Likewise, celebrating His moedim does not spring up naturally within me. They are traditions handed down by my forefathers that I learned and chose to follow.

My observing a wedding anniversary or not does not affect my wife's love for me. The anniversary is simply a physical opportunity to express that love in a specific way.

My observing moedim does not affect our Father's love for me. They are just physical ways for me to express love for him concerning his plan and purposes.

Although many think observing feast days or shabbatot are burdensome, it is no more so than anniversaries in my experience. They are truly times that I and my family look forward to.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by Seth on Today at 12:12:48 AM »
So, if the woman whose boss schedules her for work on Sabbath, if she doesn't do it, her faith is doubted?

If a woman has faith in Christ, does she need to choose between her schedule at work and the Sabbath day? After all, faith without works is dead, as you have said. So, the woman does not do the work of the Law to abstain from working on Sabbath in order to keep from being fired, his her faith dead?

Your doctrine is exposed.


I said Faith in that particular matter---not your faith as a whole

we have only a measure of faith  some have a greater measure than others in some areas

if you don't have the faith in a particular area--then don't do it until you have it   :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

You have avoided my question because you understand the implications of your doctrine upon the poor.
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by gregoryfl on Today at 12:10:59 AM »
To share my anniversary example again, to do so does not come naturally up from within my heart. It is a tradition I learned from others and chose to follow. Likewise, celebrating His moedim does not spring up naturally within me. They are traditions handed down by my forefathers that I learned and chose to follow.

My observing a wedding anniversary or not does not affect my wife's love for me. The anniversary is simply a physical opportunity to express that love in a specific way.

My observing moedim does not affect our Father's love for me. They are just physical ways for me to express love for him concerning his plan and purposes.

Although many think observing feast days or shabbatot are burdensome, it is no more so than anniversaries in my experience. They are truly times that I and my family look forward to.
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:10:12 AM »
So, if the woman whose boss schedules her for work on Sabbath, if she doesn't do it, her faith is doubted?

If a woman has faith in Christ, does she need to choose between her schedule at work and the Sabbath day? After all, faith without works is dead, as you have said. So, the woman does not do the work of the Law to abstain from working on Sabbath in order to keep from being fired, his her faith dead?

Your doctrine is exposed.

while you are trying to spend all your time here trying to expose me(so called) try looking into the matter more so than you are and you might have rays of light shine upon you   :Pray: :Pray: :Pray:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:08:48 AM »
So, if the woman whose boss schedules her for work on Sabbath, if she doesn't do it, her faith is doubted?

If a woman has faith in Christ, does she need to choose between her schedule at work and the Sabbath day? After all, faith without works is dead, as you have said. So, the woman does not do the work of the Law to abstain from working on Sabbath in order to keep from being fired, his her faith dead?

Your doctrine is exposed.


I said Faith in that particular matter---not your faith as a whole

we have only a measure of faith  some have a greater measure than others in some areas

if you don't have the faith in a particular area--then don't do it until you have it   :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by Seth on Today at 12:06:48 AM »
So, if the woman whose boss schedules her for work on Sabbath, if she doesn't do it, her faith is doubted?

If a woman has faith in Christ, does she need to choose between her schedule at work and the Sabbath day? After all, faith without works is dead, as you have said. So, the woman does not do the work of the Law to abstain from working on Sabbath in order to keep from being fired, his her faith dead?

Your doctrine is exposed.
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:02:46 AM »
I personally believe that the passage makes more sense how it was translated.
Then you should go with what you believe. We both will be enjoying our Father for eternity just the same, except I may be a little more plump from all the feast eating than you.  :rolllol:

 :LH:  :dsunny:

Quote from: FreeAtLast
ceasing from your own works just like Yah did from his--not working on the Sabbath--not doing your own things--preparing your food  before the Sabbath begins--

Sounds like alot of obligation. If somebody has a job that feeds their kids but their boss schedules them for work on the Sabbath, do they need to choose between obeying man and obeying God?



through Faith my brother--  if you don't have the faith in that matter then don't do it  :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by FreeAtLast on Today at 12:01:11 AM »
RONEN, do you believe that observing a literal Sabbath is a matter of obedience to a God which all Christians should remain obedient to? Not obeying God is bad.
Not at all. For me to do that will end up in death, just as with any other mitzvah, including love. Here is a series of 4 short articles I wrote that explains my position on this:

http://ronsrestingplace.blogspot.com/search?q=what+is+obedience


great article  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I often say that I do what I do because of LOVE--your article points out the truth of it and what I really mean when I use that terminology

the obedience and LOVE is none other than a person--Yahshua is obedience and LOVE--and is working out through us --therefore  when we say we do--it is none other than Yahshua doing through us

We LOVE him because HE first LOVED us---and gave us his spirit--Yahshua is the LOVE and Obedience within us or we would have none :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
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Lounge / Re: Law/laws/sabbath (split from OSAS)
« Last post by Seth on August 28, 2014, 11:54:42 PM »
Amen!

 :HeartThrob:
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