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Lounge / Real Names

« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 25, 2013, 06:28:53 PM »

We started exchanging real name here about a week ago and so far here is all that I have gathered. If you are not on this list please post to this thread (or not). Either way I like knowing some of you more personally. 


In Christ
DuWayne

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Book of Revelation / Re: Appearance of the Son of Man

« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 25, 2013, 06:25:16 PM »

It will be interesting to see where this thread leads us to. rosered thanks again for another great post. 

In Christ,
DuWayne

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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Perfection

« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 25, 2013, 06:14:55 PM »

Me and Becca's middle names are both Ann too.   

Thank you for that Holly Ann

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Christian Life / Re: L Ray Smith

« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 25, 2013, 06:13:09 PM »

Warhawk,

I clicked on the link and I was appalled at what the "pastor" had to say about him. Perfect example of how blind the world is. They act like they have exposed a fraud when in reality they are the ones living in a fraudulent fake dream world. L. Ray has a style that appeals to a certain crow which I do not claim to be part of. But I will say that I have watched a few of his videos and read some of his material and concluded that I would call him my brother in this life. We will all be brothers and sisters some day and that is the most glorious idea ever!!!!

PS We are living proof of God's idea that we become the many brothers and sisters of his first Son the Christ. Yeshua 

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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT

« Last post by TomH on May 25, 2013, 05:23:07 PM »

FROM THE DOCUMENTS OF RODGER TUTT #48

CHOOSING – part 2

ON THE BASIS OF HAVING STUDIED THE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO YOU CHOOSE ONE
Choose to believe that the Bible teaches that God will sustain people alive in an inescapable state of eternal suffering.
Or
Choose to believe that God will annihilate (cause them to cease to exist) anyone who does not become a Christian before they die.
Or
Choose to believe what the following expositors reveal about what the Bible teaches.

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD SERIES
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm
http://www.godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html

Or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html
http://www.richardwaynegarganta.com/4ViewsOfSalvation.htm
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm  (the author, Charles Slagle's personal website containing many other good writings about the subject)

Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY
http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm
Or
CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL UNIVERSALISM
http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html
Or
CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALISM
http://www.christianuniversalist.org
Or
BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED – John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
Or
ETERNAL DEATH ANNIHILATION?
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/EternalDeath.html
Or
WILL UNBELIEVERS BE ANNIHILATED  (If necessary copy and paste the following url into your browser address bar)
http://www.lighthouselibrary.com/read.php?sel=2586&searchfor=||KNOCH,  ADOLPH E||&type=&what=author

I myself, along with many others with whom I am acquainted, simply cannot love a god who would let anyone choose themselves into an inescapable state of eternal suffering (Arminian), or suffer forever just because they were born into the human race (Calvinist). Neither can we love a god who would snuff us out of existence just because we didn't hear about Jesus before we died.

But we CAN love a God Who, because of His Son's death and resurrection, through the power in the blood of His cross, will sooner or later save all fallen creatures from everything from which they need to be saved (including their stubborn wills).  That's the God that the above expositors see in the Bible. And that's the God to Whom I joyously yield my heart in complete and total abandonment.

SO FOR US THE CHOICE IS EASY

"through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens" (Colossians 1:20)

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Book of Revelation / Re: Appearance of the Son of Man

« Last post by rosered on May 25, 2013, 04:04:55 PM »

 
  I loved your  posts , both of them  , it made me dig in and look  just now  , but even more I love how you are careful the way you " present " and handle     the Word of God

  Kingship/ golden sash and priesthood /white robe meanings
 
 I found nursing fathers  in Isaiah   this also would means of  caring  for them supporting them  faithful

 paps are breasts

   the Spirit of truth  is a true treasure [gold/valuable ]
  this is what I found on a quick look Strawberri
 
 
 
Num 11:12 Have I conceived all this people? have I begotten them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers?
nursing
Strong's H539 - 'aman
1) to support, confirm, be faithful
a) (Qal)

1) to support, confirm, be faithful, uphold, nourish

a) foster-father (subst.)

b) foster-mother, nurse

c) pillars, supporters of the door

b) (Niphal)

1) to be established, be faithful, be carried, make firm

a) to be carried by a nurse

b) made firm, sure, lasting

c) confirmed, established, sure

d) verified, confirmed

e) reliable, faithful, trusty

c) (Hiphil)

1) to stand firm, to trust, to be certain, to believe in

a) stand firm

b) trust, believe




 
Isa 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with [their] face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I [am] the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.



 

Isa 40:11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry [them] in his bosom, [and] shall gently lead those that are with young.

 

  the bosom is the  metaphor of   embracing them enclosing them Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Strong's G3149 - mastos
1) the breasts

2) the breasts (nipples) of a man

3) breasts of a women


Strong's G2223 - zōnē   girdle
1) a girdle, belt, serving not only to gird on flowing garments but also, since it was hollow, to carry money in


I agree   with  your  2nd   post , how sometimes its misunderstanding    the scriptures
  and   carful how you hear ..
  But its God who is faithful though Jesus Christ to  show us  His Truth though the Holy Spirit 

  we are all decieved till Jesus shows us  " Himself ", the Way , Truth and the Life   , He is our everything  precious !

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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT

« Last post by rodgertutt on May 25, 2013, 03:44:06 PM »

FROM THE DOCUMENTS OF RODGER TUTT #48

CHOOSING – part 2

ON THE BASIS OF HAVING STUDIED THE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO YOU CHOOSE ONE
Choose to believe that the Bible teaches that God will sustain people alive in an inescapable state of eternal suffering.
Or
Choose to believe that God will annihilate (cause them to cease to exist) anyone who does not become a Christian before they die.
Or
Choose to believe what the following expositors reveal about what the Bible teaches.

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD SERIES
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm
http://www.godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html

Or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html
http://www.richardwaynegarganta.com/4ViewsOfSalvation.htm
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm  (the author, Charles Slagle's personal website containing many other good writings about the subject)

Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY
http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm
Or
CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL UNIVERSALISM
http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html
Or
CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALISM
http://www.christianuniversalist.org
Or
BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED – John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
Or
ETERNAL DEATH ANNIHILATION?
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/EternalDeath.html
Or
WILL UNBELIEVERS BE ANNIHILATED  (If necessary copy and paste the following url into your browser address bar)
http://www.lighthouselibrary.com/read.php?sel=2586&searchfor=||KNOCH,  ADOLPH E||&type=&what=author

I myself, along with many others with whom I am acquainted, simply cannot love a god who would let anyone choose themselves into an inescapable state of eternal suffering (Arminian), or suffer forever just because they were born into the human race (Calvinist). Neither can we love a god who would snuff us out of existence just because we didn't hear about Jesus before we died.

But we CAN love a God Who, because of His Son's death and resurrection, through the power in the blood of His cross, will sooner or later save all fallen creatures from everything from which they need to be saved (including their stubborn wills).  That's the God that the above expositors see in the Bible. And that's the God to Whom I joyously yield my heart in complete and total abandonment.

SO FOR US THE CHOICE IS EASY

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Christian Life / Re: L Ray Smith

« Last post by Warhawk17 on May 25, 2013, 07:14:13 AM »

I have read his site before, and I enjoy how blunt he is. I was curious reading this thread so I decided to look up more info on him, and this demonic blog came up talking about how he is going to suffer for eternity. Absolutely sickening.

http://pastorshinchan.blogspot.com/2012/06/l-ray-smith-is-dead-confirmed-by-bible.html

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Book of Revelation / Re: Appearance of the Son of Man

« Last post by strawberri on May 25, 2013, 04:58:44 AM »

Yes, the Word of God is the Spirit of Truth.  Some search the scriptures never understanding them because no one can draw you to the Father except the Father.  People hear but they don't hear and see yet they don't see.  And as Jesus said more than once you have heard that it was said but He says....They still don't know what is meant.  The Spirit of God is Alive and Well and He can speak for himself.  Consider the scriptures a lot of people seem not to understand or even notice or they don't like them.

"John 16:12-  I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.  (13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.  (14)  He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.  (15)  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you."

God wants worshipers who worship in Spirit and Truth.  And if we worship God, we must worship in Spirit and in Truth --all of it.  And as Christians we are aware that there is the spirit which teaches against Christ called the anti-Christ. 

We must be sure that we don't be beguiled into trading the Spirit of Truth in for what we hear and also what we read.  All things must be verified by His Spirit as to it's validity.  We don't want to be like the parable of Adam and Eve?  The tree of the knowledge of good and evil takes on many forms including pen and paper made from trees..

Strawberri

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Christian Life / Re: God's Will, Man's Will, free will/sov discussions

« Last post by shawn on May 25, 2013, 04:15:26 AM »

I believe God desires fellowship between beings who have all chosen to enjoy the superior life of love, and is winning us and training us to become these beings, "sons". This, imo, is the glorious liberty of the sons of God. I believ He knows the end from the beginning and we are predestined according to the forknowledge of God. However, I also believe no one fully understands this and we should all exercise a broad range of grace when discussing such issues. I am glad u r on Tentmaker Tom and look forward to getting to know you. Peace.

Amen.  As we all see through the glass darkly, this should instill a humility when we speak.  I doubt any see these things fully and we should discuss with this in mind.