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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by WhiteWings on April 16, 2014, 04:09:37 AM »
:cloud9: Easy. Worship is also praise and prayer. I don't have to agree with a thing they say to worship God with them. I just don't listen to their fables.  :banana:
I get that  but it takes out the  corporate for me.
Christian Life / Redressing the Balance
« Last post by lastpost on April 15, 2014, 10:25:13 PM »
Today I paid a couple of hundred pounds to have a notice appear in the newspaper on Good Friday (there is no price to be put on loving He who is LOVE). This is for various reasons, one of which is that I have noticed a lot more derision for Christ lately in the paper and it was necessary to redress the balance. Also, people should be allowed to know that they can simply love Jesus!...

An extract from: "The Link Between Easter And Harvest Time" given by the Unnamed Scribe on Sunday, April 5th, 1942.

"Spirit Communion was ordained by God so that you might learn, so that you might have sufficient discrimination not to be deceived by earthly reasoning or by the earthly aspect of things, so that you could bring light to those in darkness.

"What of you who think you are nearing your Easter Day - these are numbered amongst those who have had a fierce blow yet were determined to hold fast to Christ. Think of the Master's words: "I THIRST!' The Master thirsted for the love of humanity. The bodily agony was as naught in comparison with the desire for the sweet spray of love to pour upon Him.

"But there were only the few. The others mocked and derided, and the burning pain of unrequited love scorched His tender Heart: 'I THIRST!'

"When you are in trouble, when it feels that life has been unfair, remember the words of Christ: 'I THIRST', and give Him the sweet spray of your understanding love."

Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by ed on April 15, 2014, 10:21:31 PM »
Things are happening!

Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by lastpost on April 15, 2014, 10:09:52 PM »
As the subject of churches and worship has come up, it may or may not be of interest to some but I will write it anyway.

On Friday, after I have finished my shift at the hospital (collecting hospital refuse) in my church we are having a short and simple service although there will be but a handful of humans, as I have done for the last two decades or so.

Essentially, I will just read the sayings of the Cross and a pertinent paragraph or two about each from the Holy Book. It will go something like this...





WOMAN, BEHOLD THY SON, (then said He to the disciple) BEHOLD THY MOTHER.



These will be interspersed throughout the service but I will not trouble you with the text surrounding the sayings which you already know well.

A hymn may be sung here or maybe later.

Then I may read:

"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion: Thy God reigneth! Thy watchman shall lift up the voice; with the voice together they sing, for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion.

Who hath believed our report, and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? For He shall grow up before Him a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comliness; and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were our faces from Him.

Then we may say the Lord's Prayer and then I may pray:

O Tender Father, we thank Thee for the gift of Thy Son Jesus Christ, Who came to live on Earth as man, to be our example in loving obedience to Thy Will. In His great love He endured the agony of the Garden and the Cross that He might bring all men into fellowship with Thee. Grant us Thy Holy Spirit so that we may have grace to follow in His footsteps, and work with Him to establish Thy kingdom of peace on Earth, to the glory of Thy Name. Amen.

Then I may read:

"Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes, we are healed.

All we, like sheep, have gone astray; we have turned, everyone to his own way.

He was afflicted; yet he opened not His mouth. He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before the shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgement; and He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death, because He had done no violence; neither was any deceit in His mouth.

Then I may pray something like:

LORD Jesus, by Thy loneliness and suffering on the Cross, draw near unto all who are desolate and in pain or sorrow this day.

Heal the sick,
Comfort the bereaved,
Sustain the anxious.

Visit with Thy redeeming love all who are in trouble. May Thy Presence transform their loneliness into comfort, and their darkness into holy fellowship with Thee. Amen.

Then I may pray:

O Saviour Christ, Whose love is without measure, grant unto us a greater consciousness of our frailty and our weakness. May we ever remember Thy cry of loneliness on the Cross so that if we should ever be in seeming desolation this link with Thee might bring forth our courage, and raise our souls closer to God, our Father, even as Thou didst in Thine hour of agony. Amen.

Then I may say something like:

Let us remember the comforting and blessed words of the promise of our Lord:

"If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. Ye are My friends if ye do whatsoever I command you. These things I command you, that ye love one another."

Then I may read this poem:

"His are the thousand sparkling rills,
That from a thousand fountains burst,
And fill with music all the hills,
And yet, He saith, "I thirst."

All fiery pangs on battlefields,
On fever beds, where sick men toss,
Are in that human cry He yields,
To anguish on the Cross.

But more than pains that racked Him then
Was the deep longing, thirst Divine,
That thirsted for the souls of men.
Dear Lord, and one was mine!

O Love most patient, give me grace,
Make all my soul athirst for Thee,
That parched dry lip, that fading face,
That thirst - were all for me.
(Mrs. C. F. Alexander)

Then I may pray:

Almighty Father, we humbly beseech Thee mercifully to behold this, Thy family, for which our Lord Jesus Christ was willing to be betrayed and delivered into the hands of wicked men, and to suffer death upon the Cross.

Grant that we may so accept the gift of His sacrifice that we may glorify His Name by our living service to all, and in company with saints, martyrs, prophets and just men and women, be worthy to partake also of Thy blessing, through the love and power of Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

Then I may say something along these lines:

Dear Friends, in remembrance of our Saviour's love for all mankind, shown at Calvary, we have tried to follow Him in our hearts and minds along the road of His physical and spiritual agony to the Cross, and the surrendering of His earthly life for the help of mankind.

What is the lesson we learn from this? Is it not that in degree we shall likewise be willing to suffer for the sake of those we love? Also to ever remember that our duty to those who are near and dear to us is to try and influence them to face their troubles with calmness, and to hold fast to faith in spite of all that would assail.

As we go back over the past in the Sacred Record we read for our learning of the many noble souls who suffered in order to raise up humanity from the materialism and evil of the world in the Name of God Almighty. And because these souls lived and worked for God, we can draw inspiration from them in His Name, and in the hour of test and trial show something of endurance. In the degree that this is possible, so will be our joy in the Life to come, where service with perfect freedom shall be the portion of such.

May the strength be given so that our courage may never fail, and may the Holy Spirit guide us ever into the way of spiritual peace.

Now unto Him Who loved us and gave Himself for us, be praise and worship and glory, with the Father, for ever. Amen.

This may or may not be the format - it often changes on the day - the true offering to God comes from within and not without. However, in order for different people to come together in a quiet and peaceful manner which lays aside the material world and its thinking for a while, there must be some type of structure in place to hold a harmonious gathering.

Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by Cardinal on April 15, 2014, 08:33:31 PM »
 :cloud9: Easy. Worship is also praise and prayer. I don't have to agree with a thing they say to worship God with them. I just don't listen to their fables.  :banana:
Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by WhiteWings on April 15, 2014, 07:17:10 PM »
I did attend primarily for corporate worship.
How can there be anything 'corporate' when there are a zillion things you disagree with?
Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore?
« Last post by Cardinal on April 15, 2014, 06:52:31 PM »
 :cloud9: This is an old thread but felt to add to it. I was out of any organized attempt at religion by the Lord's hand for probably 20+ years by this time. I was never allowed by Him to go thru the formalities of joining and pledging allegiance to any sect or it's doctrines, but early in my walk I did attend primarily for corporate worship.

I didn't go to learn what they believed, I was busy spending hours in the Word myself a day, seeing what HE wanted me to believe. If they said something that lined up with what I was seeing, that was great, and when it didn't, I ignored it or put it on a shelf for later to dissect and discern if it was "digestable". Discerning of spirits is the mirror image of our sense of smell in the natural, and as in the natural it doesn't take long to figure out if something stinks and begins to breed worms, don't eat it!

He recently let me attend, sporadically, a Messianic Jewish church, no doubt in part, because they are the closest in form to what I have had formed IN ME. And it has blessed me. I won't however, ever be a member of any church, EXCEPT the church I was birthed into, the church of the firstborn, CHRIST.

IMO this is the ONLY CONGREGATION/BODY He is interested in forming, all of the others despite their best intentions, have built their own kingdoms and I refuse to belong to an external one, when He is busy building the internal one, and the ONLY ONE we are told to fellowship with as we see the time approaching. I fellowship with HIM, wherever I find Him. And He is sometimes found in the darnest places.  :winkgrin:  my :2c:  Blessings....
#535 YUSEF J. Ross Browne

"Oh, ye who are wrapped in the selfishness of a single idea! ye who bode eternal destruction to others! Look out upon the world and learn that there are millions of human hearts as sincere and devoted as yours, who perceive a divine power great and good and merciful enough to save all, even to the weakest and most benighted."
Lounge / Re: Noah's ark
« Last post by Cardinal on April 15, 2014, 06:05:30 AM »
 :cloud9: I hear you.... :banana:
Lounge / Re: Noah's ark
« Last post by sheila on April 15, 2014, 05:24:28 AM »
un-huh..and what if the ARK ofthe testimony was opened in heaven......and we find wheat[ form seed] as in a barn?
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