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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Last post by rosered on November 27, 2014, 05:41:45 PM »
 :thumbsup: :HeartThrob:
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Book of Revelation / Re: Souls Under the Altar
« Last post by rosered on November 27, 2014, 05:40:15 PM »

 John 1124Martha said to Him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day."


 25Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?"
 
 I DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I DO BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY   IS THOSE  WHOM HAVE RISEN IN CHRIST   THE LIGHT  OF THE WORLD   AND ARE WITH HIM NOW !!  the firstfruits of those whom slept / rest in Hope / Jesus Christ is our only HOPE!! 
 1 PETER 1
 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

 4to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,


Micah 7
  7But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation.


My God will hear me. 8Do not rejoice over me, O my enemy. Though I fall I will rise; Though I dwell in darkness, the LORD is a light for me.


 9I will bear the indignation of the LORD Because I have sinned against Him,


Until He pleads my case and executes justice for me. He will bring me out to the light, And I will see His righteousness
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: Test Post Google Glitch
« Last post by RonnyTX on November 27, 2014, 05:02:26 PM »
Ronny,  I can't say for sure but it can be cookie related.
Your passwords stored locally on your PC in cookie.  Auto complete also is something that's stored locally.

If you clean your cookie jar cache those function no longer work. 

Was the wrong password entered automatically?
If so did you ever change your password?
If so it could be an old cookie get reactivated.

Somehow I got hungry posting this.

Ronny to Whitewings:
:-)

I have to put in my password manually,to get into any of my 3 Google accounts. Hadn't changed them in a year,when this same glitch came up last month. But the good part,is I saw where other people on Chromebooks were having the same problem and Google got that glitch fixed,in 24 hours or less. :-) This probably will get cleared up today? I hope!

And last month,I did change my password,for the account I use the most;but didn't change the other two. And yesterday and this morning,can't get in on any of them. On the two,where I didn't change the password,I put my password in by hand and then get up a popup,that I'm to put in my old password;but then,I've only had that one password,for both of those accounts! (ha) Ah well,Google will probably get this glitch fixed soon. They did last month,when the same thing happened.

Gotta get offline soon anyway and see if Sis's oldest boy and his family are now headed down this way yet or not? See if there's any last minute things,Sis needs help on or needs me to do? When I got up this morning,saw she already had the turkey,dressing and potatoes done! My,now I'm making myself hungry! :-) LoL

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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: Test Post Google Glitch
« Last post by RonnyTX on November 27, 2014, 04:50:07 PM »
Helping Sis some yesterday,on housecleaniing. She went to town;but forgot a couple of things. :-) So after dark,I got off to our local town and picked up some milk and baking mix. Thought her oldest boy,his wife and their 3 little ones were a ndcoming in yesterday evening or last night;but they changed their mind and decided to come Thanksgiving morning. They have two girls,8 and 5 years old and the little boy,who is 3 years old. The oldest girl loves to read and I recently found her two really nice books,for 50 cents each,at the local thrift shop! :-) Got the little 5 year old,a stuffed bear.  And the little 3yo , another stuffed monkey. Find these good and cheap,at local garage sales! :-) Do love,those garage sales! :-) Tell people,that great uncle can buy a lot at those,for my great nieces and great nephews and then, their parents can figure out where they're going to keep all of it?! :-) LoL And I've sort of went overboard,in the last year,buying stuffed animals and some other things too! :-)

Remember,when I first saw a stuffed monkey at a garage sale and for some reason,I thought of Sis's 3 year old grandson?! :-)  So I nicknamed that boy,Little Monkey! :-) Then I nicknamed all 3 of them,the 3 Little Monkeys! :-) LoL
An older brother,who lives nearby,he also has a 3 year old grandson,that we get to see pretty often. :-) Nickname him, Knothead! :-) LoL
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Lounge / Happy Thanksgiving!
« Last post by Tom on November 27, 2014, 04:16:40 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving to all my brothers and sisters in the USA and the world because we all have a lot to be thankful for.
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So, "when God's judgements are on the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness." However, we shall certainly only be saved through Christ (entering through the door, calling on His name and so on). It is only Christ who can redeem us.

So then, how are we to see the lake of fire? Subscribers to UR have described a process of fiery refinement, and God is pictured (and shadowed/typed) as a furnace, but doesn't scripture seem to indicate that this something for believers? And if God's "fire" is enough to purify someone to perfection, they are not in fact being saved through Christ, are they?

This would lead me to think that the lake of fire is more about the combination of the consequences of sin and God's judgement on evil doers (i.e. all) being brought to bear on someone, such that they then do ultimately accept Christ's sacrifice. But this does seem different to being "burnt clean", which is more of a purgatorial process.

Does anyone see what's confusing me here... the mechanism of salvation for all... being driven to repentance, or being (painfully) "refined"? Or is it a combination of the two? Because one seems to be "only through Christ", and one doesn't, but the one that does seems to fit a picture of fiery refinement less well...  :dontknow:

I think those chosen "before the disruption of the world" (Ephesians 1:4), who are called out of all nations to be the "ecclesia," "the body of Christ," are saved "in grace through faith" (Ephesians 2:8,9), and will be snatched away to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17) more than a thousand years before the dead are raised to be judged according to their acts before the "great white throne" and then cast into "the lake of fire" which is "the second death." I think it will be Christ who sits on the "great white throne." So those judged before the "great white throne" will be "saved through Christ" by judgment not faith, but they will also be "saved through Christ" because Christ's blood on the cross reconciles all on earth and in the heavens meaning all God's creatures.

"We rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers" (1 Timothy 4:10).

"Through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens" (Colossians 1:20).

"Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing. For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead. For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence; thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power. For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy is being abolished: death. For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him. Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all" (1 Corinthians 15:20-28).
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So then, how are we to see the lake of fire? Subscribers to UR have described a process of fiery refinement, and God is pictured (and shadowed/typed) as a furnace, but doesn't scripture seem to indicate that this something for believers? And if God's "fire" is enough to purify someone to perfection, they are not in fact being saved through Christ, are they?
The wages of sin is endless death. Jesus paid the price to make resurrection possible
Father shows mercy on all but at the same time sin won't enter heaven.
That's where purification comes in.


1 Corinthians 11:32  and being judged by the Lord, we are chastened .... => We are judged by being chastened.
Titus 2:11-12  For the saving grace of God was manifested to all men, teaching us, that .... => Teaching is the grace of God.
Revelation 20:10  .... and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. => the result of judgement

Teaching + Chastened
paideu,w paideuo {pahee-dyoo'-o}
Meaning: 
 to train children
to be instructed or taught or learn
to cause one to learn
 to chastise
to chastise or castigate with words, to correct
of those who are moulding the character of others by reproof and admonition
of God
to chasten by the affliction of evils and calamities
to chastise with blows, to scourge
of a father punishing his son
of a judge ordering one to be scourged

Grace
ca,rij charis {khar'-ece}
Meaning: 
grace
that which affords joy, pleasure, delight, sweetness, charm, loveliness: grace of speech
good will, loving-kindness, favour
of the merciful kindness by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues
what is due to grace
the spiritual condition of one governed by the power of divine grace
the token or proof of grace, benefit
a gift of grace
benefit, bounty
thanks, (for benefits, services, favours), recompense, reward

Judged
kri,nw krino {kree'-no}
Meaning: 
to separate, put asunder, to pick out, select, choose
to approve, esteem, to prefer
to be of opinion, deem, think, to be of opinion
to determine, resolve, decree
to judge
to pronounce an opinion concerning right and wrong
to be judged, i.e. summoned to trial that one's case may be examined and judgment passed upon it
to pronounce judgment, to subject to censure
of those who act the part of judges or arbiters in matters of common life, or pass judgment on the deeds and words of others
to rule, govern
to preside over with the power of giving judicial decisions, because it was the prerogative of kings and rulers to pass judgment
to contend together, of warriors and combatants
to dispute
in a forensic sense
to go to law, have suit at law
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Tormented
928 basani,zw basanizo {bas-an-id'-zo}
Meaning: 
to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the color of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal
=> gold..silver... He is a refiners fire...


Judged => Chastened => Teaching => Grace
God corrects His children by teaching them, so He can approve them with love
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So, "when God's judgements are on the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness." However, we shall certainly only be saved through Christ (entering through the door, calling on His name and so on). It is only Christ who can redeem us.

So then, how are we to see the lake of fire? Subscribers to UR have described a process of fiery refinement, and God is pictured (and shadowed/typed) as a furnace, but doesn't scripture seem to indicate that this something for believers? And if God's "fire" is enough to purify someone to perfection, they are not in fact being saved through Christ, are they?

This would lead me to think that the lake of fire is more about the combination of the consequences of sin and God's judgement on evil doers (i.e. all) being brought to bear on someone, such that they then do ultimately accept Christ's sacrifice. But this does seem different to being "burnt clean", which is more of a purgatorial process.

Does anyone see what's confusing me here... the mechanism of salvation for all... being driven to repentance, or being (painfully) "refined"? Or is it a combination of the two? Because one seems to be "only through Christ", and one doesn't, but the one that does seems to fit a picture of fiery refinement less well...  :dontknow:
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This is a thrilling poem by Matthew Arnold, keeping in mind the following fact.
Universalism was The Prevailing Doctrine Of The Christian Church During Its First Five Hundred Years
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Prevailing.html

As students of the history of Christian doctrine know, among believers in eternal torment, Tertullian was one of the most extreme. That is why I think this poem is so powerful. It sent a thrill up and down my spine.    :HeartThrob:

"He saves the sheep, the goats he doth not save!"
So rang Tertullian's sentence, on the side
Of that unpitying Phrygian sect which cried, --
"Him can no fount of fresh forgiveness lave
Who sins, once washed by the baptismal wave!"
So spake the fierce Tertullian. But she sighed,
The infant church, of love she felt the tide
Stream on her from her Lord's yet recent grave,
And then she smiled, and in the Catacombs,
With eye suffused, but heart inspired true,
On those walls subterranean, where she hid
Her head in ignominy, death and tombs,
She her Good Shepherd's hasty image drew,
And on His shoulders, not a lamb, a kid.
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I was just watching some videos by Eniez Crupa (her name is probably spelt wrong) and she was discussing how the Holy Spirit showed her that the AIDC Technology will be used to implant RFID Chips into us when the anti christ appears. It seems the Holy Spirit also revealed to her that RFID stands for Ritus Filiorum Intra Diaboli which is Latin for Rite of the devil. and AIDC stands for Antichristos Ideologia Deum Contra which is Latin for Antichrist Ideology Against God. Her video is posted below. What are all your thoughts on the matter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NCBgksb1qk&list=UUkFiCNamItHZfYqUcNpOXzw
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