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Welcome Central / Re: Hi everybody
« Last post by Lazarus Short on May 17, 2013, 08:56:24 PM »
No, DuWayne, I can't carry a tune in a bucket.  :laugh:

I love, music, however.  I think I'm going to make a list of real names too - it can give a post a nice, personal touch.
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Salvation vs Reconciliation
« Last post by Lazarus Short on May 17, 2013, 08:53:20 PM »
Can anybody tell me what the difference between salvation and reconciliation is?

I see salvation as being rescued from the dust of death, or from the death that takes us all:  non-existence.

I see reconciliation as a sort of coming home, home being where, if you show up, they have to take you in.  You are able to stand before God without pain, fear, guilt, or sin-debt.  For His part, God can bear to have us stand before Him, seeing us as loved sons and daughters, not sinners or enemies.
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Christian Life / Re: Fear of Hell
« Last post by jbertonbounds on May 17, 2013, 08:46:55 PM »
I was a nominal christian for sometime, but when God touched me and started to wash my conscience clean, I suddenly was tormented by this very doctrine of ET. Thankfully God lead me to various websites online where He showed me how truly Loving, and how truly in control He really is or I could honestly have had gone insane. Perhaps He allowed me to go through it so that I can see how important it really is to liberate poor souls from such a demonic doctrine. This fear can really drive people nuts especially when one take it seriously. Those that are not nuts have their conscience somehow seared, their hearts hardened, making Christianity either full of heartless people or insane people. Truly an evil teaching. So don't be too hard on them, many of them don't know any better.
Gives the phrase "saving people from Hell" a totally new meaning.   :2c:

Good testimony!

Those that are not nuts have their conscience somehow seared, their hearts hardened, making Christianity either full of heartless people or insane people.

That's funny, man. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Gives the phrase "saving people from Hell" a totally new meaning.   :2c:

I love it!  I guess I really am trying to save people from hell. :laughing7: :thumbsup:
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Salvation vs Reconciliation
« Last post by jbertonbounds on May 17, 2013, 08:34:40 PM »
Can anybody tell me what the difference between salvation and reconciliation is?
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Welcome Central / Re: Hi everybody
« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 17, 2013, 08:25:12 PM »
My real name is Dennis.  :Peace2:

Hello Dennis,
I was just looking around for something to start writing real names on and I found a program from a concert that I attended on May 4th at Wayzata High School Auditorium. The ironic thing about this program is that the guest musician that night was a man named Charles Lazarus. He makes cameo appearances for good causes but he is a top rate trumpet player. His fingers are so fast that they look like a blur. Dennis do you play the trumpet by chance?   :banana:
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Welcome Central / Re: Hi everybody
« Last post by rosered on May 17, 2013, 08:23:20 PM »
 :welcome: :newb:

  to the both  , Samuel  and warhawk17 aka Max!!   :dsunny:
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Welcome Central / Re: Hi everybody
« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 17, 2013, 08:20:41 PM »
My real name is Dennis.  :Peace2:

Hello Dennis,
I was just looking around for something to start writing real names on and I found a program from a concert that I attended on May 4th at Wayzata High School Auditorium. The ironic thing about this program is that the guest musician that night was a man named Charles Lazarus. He makes cameo appearances for good causes but he is a top rate trumpet player. His fingers are so fast that they look like a blur. Dennis do you play the trumpet by chance? 
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Salvation vs Reconciliation
« Last post by rosered on May 17, 2013, 07:52:26 PM »
   when He is standing[Michael stands up/Michael=who is like God] deliverance of the body undergoing the death occurrs

 sitting is the last enemy already overcome. This shows those sitting on the thrones with Him in first resurrection have

 suffered death. and received crown of life......  this is akin to the raised arm in battle of Israel in old testiment..
   I believe that Shelia
  I just saw this too  !!   they are the great cloud of witnesses to the   righteous judgments of Jesus Christ
 Luk 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
Luk 12:9 But he that denys  me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.
 
   I see it as the head and Body and feet [teaching  , preaching the gospel ] of Christ are  being formed even now
 
  but not all   , only those  that are called out of the world
  not all are called out  but do die in sin still
  right ?
  that being the dead  in sin
  verses  that being dead in Christ 
 I am trying to understand all the scriptures    that work together as  His   Holy Word of Truth .
 
   what names are blotted out of the Lambs book of Life ?
 
  some are forgiven and some are  waiting    in the abode of the dead   as the angels leaving thier fist estate   being held  in Enoch and  Peter  ?
 

 Neh 4:5 And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked [thee] to anger before the builders.

 
Psa 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.
 

Psa 109:13 Let his posterity be cut off; [and] in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
 
Psa 109:14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
 

Isa 44:22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.  :thumbsup:


Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord :thumbsup:
 
 Acts 3    says  unless they are held  And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

    that being  those whom are in the 1st ressurection  where the 2nd death holds no power over them
  seems the 2nd death would hold power over the abgels still in darkness   and in the abode of the dead  than  right ?
 
  I want to understand  the truth and facts   , it must  fit  perfectly  :dunno2:

 
 
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Christian Life / Re: Fear of Hell
« Last post by jedi1989 on May 17, 2013, 07:48:37 PM »
I was a nominal christian for sometime, but when God touched me and started to wash my conscience clean, I suddenly was tormented by this very doctrine of ET. Thankfully God lead me to various websites online where He showed me how truly Loving, and how truly in control He really is or I could honestly have had gone insane. Perhaps He allowed me to go through it so that I can see how important it really is to liberate poor souls from such a demonic doctrine. This fear can really drive people nuts especially when one take it seriously. Those that are not nuts have their conscience somehow seared, their hearts hardened, making Christianity either full of heartless people or insane people. Truly an evil teaching. So don't be too hard on them, many of them don't know any better.
Gives the phrase "saving people from Hell" a totally new meaning.   :2c:
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Salvation vs Reconciliation
« Last post by sheila on May 17, 2013, 07:29:38 PM »
   when He is standing[Michael stands up/Michael=who is like God] deliverance of the body undergoing the death occurrs

 sitting is the last enemy already overcome. This shows those sitting on the thrones with Him in first resurrection have

 suffered death. and received crown of life......  this is akin to the raised arm in battle of Israel in old testiment..

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