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Book of Revelation / Re: The Revelation
« Last post by rosered on November 21, 2014, 11:42:50 PM »
The book of Revelations seems to be talking about a lot of people.

There are the things that happen to the people that go to this church
There are the things that happen to the people that go to That church.

Millions that are dead millions that are alive.
A third of the earth here and a third of the earth there.

Some people read revelations and believe that they must tell the
millions or billions what is going to happen.
( Four blood Moons , The late great planet earth. Ect)

In past readings the book of revelations would get me very excited .
But that excitement was about what was happening out side of me.
I now get excited about things happening inside me.
:thumbsup:
 
  me too  bro Daj    and desire this   for everyone  to be ONE  SPIRIT  IN CHRIST  !!  and KNOW THAT GOD WILL NOT FAIL HIS GLORIOUS PLAN   !!!
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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Romans 3:25
« Last post by rosered on November 21, 2014, 11:35:55 PM »
No apology's necessary, sis. Do all the amplifying you want to.

 lol :dsunny:
 
  It was Bro John  who  amplified , it was a  wonderful verse you chose   Bro Tom !!!!   I just quoted   :HeartThrob:
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I'm not "shocked" or "amazed" because this is just the false doctrine of orthodoxy. I do not believe man's "choice" overrides God's will or there is any "burning in hell."
Well I seriously can't believe this person can say "God knows we will ultimately end up in Heaven or Hell, but he doesn't know for sure where we will end up until we turn to him or die". Is this the first time you've seen this or is it just because I am newer to this. When he said that, I gave up because I knew there was getting no through to him.
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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Romans 3:25
« Last post by Tom on November 21, 2014, 11:23:55 PM »
No apology's necessary, sis. Do all the amplifying you want to.
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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: Romans 3:25
« Last post by rosered on November 21, 2014, 11:18:47 PM »
Propriation only for believers ?

God bless you

"And He is the propitiatory shelter concerned with our sins, yet not concerned with ours only, but concerned with the whole world also." (1 John 2:2)

Sorry Tom, just felt that needed to be AMPLIFIED  :o)

2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. NASB

Propitiation means the turning away of wrath by an offering.     Reminds me of the song   

 Covered by the Blood     how sweet this is .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHQyoAi9jJ0

Once in sin's darkest night I was wandering alone;
A stranger to mercy I stood.
But the Savior came nigh
When he heard my faint cry,
And He put my sins under the blood.

Refrain

They are covered by the blood;
They are covered by the blood;
My sins are all covered by the blood.
Mine iniquities so vast
Have been blotted out at last,
My sins are all covered by the blood.

From the burden I carried now I am set free,
For Jesus has lifted my load.
O the love and the grace I received in its place
When he put my sins under the blood.

Refrain

I can ne'er understand why He sought even me,
Why His lifeblood on Calvary flowed.
But sufficient for me,
Since He died on the tree,
He hath put my sins under the blood.

Refrain

Now He comes to my heart and removes every care;
He bears all my cumbering load.
In a pathway replete
With His love are my feet,
Since He put my sins under the blood.
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"Jesus loves me, this I know
Even thought to Hell I may go..."

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Hitler was an anti-Christ. Anti as in his case, opposite of Christ. A savior born of destruction, the very antithesis of the divine nature.  Even in the harshest view, should God pay him 6 million lifetimes of suffering, it would not be forever, and at the end of it, the point would be correction before retribution.

I do not hold that extreme kind of view. I am just making the point. Burning forever could only be justified if the being in torment remained evil forever, in which case, God would be tolerating the persistence in evil of most of those He created in a place outside of Himself forever.

 This cannot be argued against in any reasonable way, because anyone who believes God would torment forever beings who had seen the error of their ways, being who had the "evil" purged out of them by exposure to unapproachable light and the consuming fire of the God who is love is someone who has no real familiarity with the divine nature and etrnal power of God, the I AM, YHWH, our Creator, our Redeemer and Sustainer.

 So, evil wins, in the ET view- over most of His creation. IMO it is an insane view, and that is why it causes SO MUCH pain and distress among the truly born of God who are held within the chains of it.

Amen!

  Amen   !!Paul also agrees Brothers !!

 Eph  6 19and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth,


 to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,


 20for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
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I'm not "shocked" or "amazed" because this is just the false doctrine of orthodoxy. I do not believe man's "choice" overrides God's will or there is any "burning in hell."
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Read and be as amazed as I was at what this person said.
Just to clarify, this person also said: "People can change, thus changing there fate".
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Read and be as amazed as I was at what this person said.

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