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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: Noah
« Last post by micah7:9 on July 31, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
Yeah, they are what I called "transformers" but in the movie they are called "watchers" who are supposed to have been "angels" who had decided to take sides with the enemy over the Creator. So the Creator turned them to rocks with legs and arms with lighted eyeballs. Oh yeah Noah talked to them and became friends so they helped Noah build the Ark.
 :laugh:
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Will
« Last post by Seth on July 31, 2014, 09:29:35 PM »
If I understand you correctly, you meant that ascending to heaven is the endpoint of this life long process of being saved, the final shedding of the flesh. If so, I see it the same way.
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Word Studies / Re: Ancient Hebrew Meaning of Salvation
« Last post by micah7:9 on July 31, 2014, 09:26:13 PM »
 :dsunny: I like that
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Will
« Last post by micah7:9 on July 31, 2014, 09:11:50 PM »
If he had been saved he would have ascended into heaven? Don't get that :Chinscratch:

I don't get that either.
Why would Peter ascend into heaven? He remains on the earth and will sit on one of the 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel with the other 11 apostles in Israel during the Millennial reign of Christ.

My point which I now see I posted wrong. Peter was still alive and in the process of being saved.
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Will
« Last post by dajomaco on July 31, 2014, 08:58:51 PM »
How is this done? Is there a verse of scripture?
"We are free to will the spirit in our hearts to grow.
We freely choose the spirit  of Life or the spirit of death."



Jer 17:9  Crooked is the heart above all things, And it is incurable--who doth know it?
Jer 17:10  I Jehovah do search the heart, try the reins, Even to give to each according to his way, According to the fruit of his doings.
 Mar_7:21  for from within, out of the heart of men, the evil reasonings do come forth, adulteries, whoredoms, murders,
Mar 7:21  For from within, out of the heart of men, evil thoughts proceed, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,
Mar 7:22  covetings, wickednesses, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, railing, pride, foolishness:
Mar 7:23  all these evil things proceed from within, and defile the man.

I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life so that you and your descendants may live,

Then the LORD instructed Gad, David's seer, 10 "Go and say to David, 'This is what the LORD says: I am offering you three choices. Choose one of them for yourself, and I will do it to you.'"
11 So Gad went to David and said to him, "This is what the LORD says: 'Take your choice: 12 three years of famine, or three months of devastation by your foes with the sword of your enemy overtaking you, or three days of the sword of the LORD—a plague on the land, the angel of the LORD bringing destruction to the whole territory of Israel.' Now decide what answer I should take back to the One who sent me."
Who is the man who fears the Lord? He will show him the way he should choose.

Because they hated knowledge, didn't choose to fear the Lord,
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: The holy land
« Last post by Tony N on July 31, 2014, 08:51:23 PM »
"for we know that creation does not contain God, but the other way around."

Scripture please.

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gregoryfl wrote: So, if this be true, then in thinking and meditating on all that makes up the promised land, things in the heavenlies, aside from Jerusalem, what other areas making up the promised land do you find spiritual lessons in?

The springs from which we drink deeply of God's refreshing spirit.
The mountains which speak of God's majesty.
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Will
« Last post by Tony N on July 31, 2014, 08:47:03 PM »
If he had been saved he would have ascended into heaven? Don't get that :Chinscratch:

I don't get that either.
Why would Peter ascend into heaven? He remains on the earth and will sit on one of the 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel with the other 11 apostles in Israel during the Millennial reign of Christ.
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Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: God's Will
« Last post by Tony N on July 31, 2014, 08:45:06 PM »
Joh_1:13 who were begotten, not of bloods, neither of the will of the flesh, neither of the will of a man, but of God."
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: Noah
« Last post by Searching_For_The_Truth on July 31, 2014, 08:39:57 PM »
I haven't seen the Noah movie but I heard it does not match the Biblical story of Noah. Is it true that there were talking rock people in the movie?
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Word Studies / Ancient Hebrew Meaning of Salvation
« Last post by gregoryfl on July 31, 2014, 08:14:53 PM »
Salvation means many things to many people, but what we find in the scripture can all be traced back to an agricultural image we all have seen, the growth of a plant from a seed.

The concrete meaning of the word has to do with spaciousness.

is the 2 letter marriage root of both the state and action of what we today call 'salvation'. It depicts a stripping upward action, which is what happens when a seed sprouts. As it drinks in the water given to it, its life as a seed is stripped away, and, in doing so, it loses its current life as a dormant seed to gain life as an expanding plant, expressing the life once hidden inside it.

The seed is first planted in the ground, a place where it is dark and confining, which may be likened to bondage. When it sprouts and pushes its way out of the ground into the open air, this is the time when it enters spaciousness and sunlight. This is the picture given to us by our Creator of what salvation is, to be freed from bondage and darkness to experience spaciousness and light.

Ronen
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