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Christian Life / Re: According to Churchianity

« Last post by jbertonbounds on Today at 12:15:36 AM »

I love how they call us hopeless sinners, yet they tell us that we need to save ourselves. Anyone else see the problem with that? Hopeless sinners, saving themselves.  And you are absolutely right about different churches having different qualifications of what one must do to be saved. Having grown up a Catholic, I was always told how we needed to be baptized, take communion, go to confession, pray to Mary and saints, etc. The thing is I still go to church sometimes because I'm having trouble breaking out of this Catholic thing because it's always been such a big part of my family's life, and I can see through the lies we're told in the sermons.

Indeed it is hard to break away from a religion that you have been taught and involved in all your life.  I just broke away from the Baptist church.  Sort of traumatic.

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by rosered on May 22, 2013, 11:26:14 PM »

The Spirit helps me know where to draw lines.  The flesh clouds my judgement.  Staying close to God and being led by his Spirit is of utmost importance in living in the truth and light.  We must deny the flesh, staying clean of pornography and lust, dishonesty, revenge, drunkeness and drug abuse, slander and heresy, pursuit of material goods and self gratification, etc.  When we deny our flesh and keep our minds on Jesus, the scriptures, and God's kingdom, remaining humble and loving to others, and remaining faithful even in the face of persecution, we live in truth and light.     That, my friends, is the definition of an overcomer.

I posted a version of this on FaceBook today.
Just another seed I planted.
Pray for rain.

  Again I would say that is  being faithful in a few things   jb 

  its Christ in you   the very hope of glory    that overcomes the world   and all thats in it
 
 Jhn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.  
 
 1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
   the Christ come to fulfill  the Law  and also bring in the new covenant , royal law by magnifying the  Law
    just mine 

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by jbertonbounds on May 22, 2013, 09:18:31 PM »

The Spirit helps me know where to draw lines.  The flesh clouds my judgement.  Staying close to God and being led by his Spirit is of utmost importance in living in the truth and light.  We must deny the flesh, staying clean of pornography and lust, dishonesty, revenge, drunkeness and drug abuse, slander and heresy, pursuit of material goods and self gratification, etc.  When we deny our flesh and keep our minds on Jesus, the scriptures, and God's kingdom, remaining humble and loving to others, and remaining faithful even in the face of persecution, we live in truth and light.     That, my friends, is the definition of an overcomer.

I posted a version of this on FaceBook today.
Just another seed I planted.
Pray for rain.

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by jbertonbounds on May 22, 2013, 09:09:59 PM »

The Spirit helps me know where to draw lines.  The flesh clouds my judgement.  Staying close to God and being led by his Spirit is of utmost importance in living in the truth and light.  We must deny the flesh, staying clean of pornography and lust, dishonesty, revenge, drunkeness and drug abuse, slander and heresy, pursuit of material goods and self gratification, etc.  When we deny our flesh and keep our minds on Jesus, the scriptures, and God's kingdom, remaining humble and loving to others, and remaining faithful even in the face of persecution, we live in truth and light.     That, my friends, is the definition of an overcomer.

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Christian Life / Re: Favorite One Line Scriptures

« Last post by dajomaco on May 22, 2013, 08:44:28 PM »

1 Corinthians 12
31 But desire the greater gifts. And I will show you an even better way.

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Christian Life / Re: According to Churchianity

« Last post by dajomaco on May 22, 2013, 08:24:58 PM »

Once the fear of death is taken away
the only fear left is the fear of God

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Book of Revelation / Re: Prophecy

« Last post by sheila on May 22, 2013, 08:24:10 PM »

Muslim rioting in Stockholm past 3 days..began with man weilding machete saying he waaaaaaas going to kill police officer.

  today.  London area..machete attack against officer...alleh akkbaaar' two shot.

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by dajomaco on May 22, 2013, 08:21:47 PM »

Love is the answer.
The flesh cannot measure love.
The spirit gives Love without measure.
Each one of us is given a measure of Faith
to believe that God gives Love without measure.

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by mplsfitter539 on May 22, 2013, 07:49:23 PM »

John,

I pray for opportunities and God gives them to me but not when or how I would choose. I want to tell my parents but God has another time for them. I want to tell my girlfriend but God has another time for her also. The challenge is keeping quite until God makes the situation happen in His time. Once you settle down and become totally confident in UR then you can begin to change those around you by your consistent positive behavior. As the old saying goes.......actions speak louder than words. If a murderer tells you that he has changed his ways you likely won't believe him until he has not killed anyone for a long stretch of time from the last killing. He may even still harbor feelings of killing for some time after his conversion.

DuWayne

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Arguments Against Universal Salvation / Re: What if you guys are all wrong about universal salvation?

« Last post by jbertonbounds on May 22, 2013, 07:40:35 PM »

I think that loving others is telling them about the unconditional love of a great God and His Son, Yeshua, as we have opportunity. I think love can be measured by what we do for people as well, kinda like the good Samaritan. It certainly can't be produced by the flesh though. I know you see that.

Cheers

Jock.

Jock,

Telling people about the unconditional love of a great God and His Son is a great place to start as long as the opportunity arises on its own so to speak. I am finding that just showing people through my actions and words shows them how love works. When my paradigm shift from ET to UR took place I tried telling people about it (unconditional love of God) but most in ET are not ready to hear it and it tends to make them mad. It reminds me of a scene in a movie called "the matrix". In this scene Morpheus is telling Neo that he was reluctant to "wake" him up because Neo was too old. This is the problem for most ETers. They have spent their entire life worshiping a god who loves you until death and then either hates you or continues His love towards you depending on your individual circumstances. My mother gets so upset that she actually told me that she doesn't want to hear the truth about God anymore from me. Of course she wants to hear about him from people who agree with ET just not me. Now I am not calling myself a prophet but I believe this verse applies anyway.
John 4
44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.

For me the difficulty lies in knowing how far to take it when sharing UR.  I want to shout it from the mountain tops because I want everyone to know.  But that has cost me dearly in loosing my church home, my honor, my standing in the community, some of my friends, and at times peace in my own household.  I gladly pay the price for the sake of the kingdom and for God's glory.  I know people get mad at me, but they also got mad at Jesus and that didn't stop him.  I always have a problem knowing where to draw lines.   After all, are we not supposed to persevere even unto death?