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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: What A Day That Will Be
« Last post by micah7:9 on Today at 03:22:02 AM »
I have quietly in my mind and sometimes audibly singing that song...WHAT A DAY THAT WILL BE....Wow! :dsunny:
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"The "lake of fire" is obviously not "hell" because "hell" will be cast into the "lake of fire"

Absolutely a truth. The Lake of Fire is the second death......Judgment...
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Lounge / Re: Heaven and earth
« Last post by Tom on Today at 03:04:05 AM »
"MATTHEW'S ACCOUNT

MATTHEW manifests the Messiah as the Son of David and the Son of Abraham. He is the King of Israel and the Owner of the land. His genealogy is presented to prove His title to the throne and attest His inheritance from the father of the faithful. This account is occupied with the kingdom to Israel and the land of promise. It is concerned with the covenants made with Abraham and with David.
     The four accounts or portraitures of Christ give four discriminated aspects of their common subject: and are not intended to be "harmonized". Each writer has his peculiar principles of selection and arrangement. Matthew's account, ever recognized as the Hebrew gospel, is the true commencement of the Greek scriptures, showing how they grow out of the Hebrew writings. It quotes at every step from the older scriptures. It is both a history and a fulfillment of prophecy. Matthew never rises above the plane of Israel's interests and hopes.
     The characteristic phrase is "the kingdom of the heavens". This refers to Daniel's prophecy, "And in the days of these kings the God of the heavens shall set up a kingdom which shall not be harmed for the eon, and the kingdom shall not be left to another people. It shall crush and terminate all these kingdoms.... (Dan.2:44). "And the kingdom and the authority and the majesty of the kingdom under all the heavens is granted to the people of the saints of the supremacies..." (Dan.7:27) It is a kingdom in the sense that Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece were kingdoms; it is still future; it is the rule of one people over other nations; yet it will not be destroyed as its predecessors in world dominion, but will last for the eons.
     Notwithstanding the fact that Messiah is sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (15:24) and that He forbade His apostles to go to the nations or Samaritans (10:5), the few instances in which the aliens are mentioned are most significant. Four gentile women enter the genealogy (1:3,5,6). Tamar's sin introduced her into the line of ancestry, Rahab came in by faith. In Ruth's case grace triumphed over the law that would ban a Moabite from the congregation of Jehovah. Bathsheba reminds us of David's great transgression and shows us grace reigning despite sin. The magi come to worship Him, while Herod seeks His life (2:1-12). The centurion exhibits a faith unknown in Israel (8:5-12). The Canaanitish woman is commended for her confidence in Christ (15:21-28). Pilate and his wife refuse responsibility when the Jews seek to condemn Him (27:10,24). The centurion at the cross acknowledges that He is the Son of God (27:54). It is only at the end of the account, after all authority on earth is in the hands of the King, that the disciples are commissioned to go and make disciples of all nations. This cannot occur until the kingdom comes. Thus the proclamation of the kingdom of the heavens is restricted to the people of whom the prophet Daniel spoke.
     The narrative is divided into two distinct periods, each of which begins with His acknowledgement as Son of God by a voice from heaven and closes by its acknowledgment by men, the first by the disciples the second by the nations. The first extends from John's baptism (3:16-17), and closes with Peter's confession (16:16). During this period the kingdom is proclaimed and rejected, so that He forbids its further proclamation. The second period is occupied with His priestly preparation for the sacrifice on Golgotha. It begins with the transformation on the mount (17:1-5) where Moses and Elijah spoke of His decease, and continued to the crucifixion, where the centurion said, "Truly this was God's Son!" (27:54)." (Concordant Commentary pg.10-Matthew's Account)
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Lounge / Heaven and earth
« Last post by ed on Today at 02:41:43 AM »
I'm working heaven and earth in the book of Matthew.

Anyone else see it as the theme of the book?

Matthew 3
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear : he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

The coming of Jesus Christ was the axe laid at the root of the tree.  The fire represents a  soon coming judgment.

Matthew 3
12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Again the fire represents judgement..........I don't believe it is talking about the end times, but the present times that Jesus was in.

Matthew 3
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come ?

Matthew 4
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world(Kosmos), and the glory of them;

Heaven and earth are what the devil was talking about.  The king of heaven was getting ready to thoroughly defeat it.........the adversary, and take charge of heaven and earth.

Matthew 5
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth(Ge).

The kingdom of heaven is on earth through Jesus Christ.  The Body of Christ is the method through which the king ministers on earth.

Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled .

I'm interested in how Jesus Christ fulfilled the law and the prophets........or has he?   This is where I am looking for more light.

Matthew 5
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool : neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

Matthew 6
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Matthew 6
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal.

What heaven is being talked about?  A future heaven?  I have always believed the present heaven.

I'm still working the sermon on the mount..........It may take me a little while to get to


Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.










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Yeah, it's too bad the same references that give you the origin of the word "hell" also give you the bogus church definition which has nothing to do with the actual original meaning. The Old English word "hell" was used to translate the Greek "hades," literally "un-perceived," in the King James Version. Unfortunately the King James Version also used the word "hell" to translate the Greek "geenna" twelve times which makes it obvious that it was an intentional mistranslation. "Gehenna," the correct translation of the Greek "geenna," is the ravine used as the city dump of Jerusalem where dead bodies of executed criminals were burned as they will be in the coming eon, but it has been intentionally confused with "hell" to perpetrate the lie of torture in fire forever in "hell." The "lake of fire" is obviously not "hell" because "hell" will be cast into the "lake of fire" (Revelation 20:14-KJV).
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Humor-Poems-Songs-Movies / Re: What A Day That Will Be
« Last post by joeteekay on Today at 01:15:43 AM »
With patient endurance we wait and long for that day, that GREAT day.
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Big difference between believing in some thing and what is gods reality.
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Believing the lake of fire is "hell" is hell.
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PS: The lake of fire is not "hell."
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