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Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
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Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
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 Welcome to the Tentmaker 

Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
« Last post by joeteekay on Today at 12:17:31 AM »
Welcome to the tent from me also.  :dsunny:
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
« Last post by eaglesway on November 28, 2014, 08:52:49 PM »
Welcome to the site Visitor. Edify, be edified. :o)
Book of Revelation / Re: Souls Under the Altar
« Last post by eaglesway on November 28, 2014, 08:49:33 PM »
I think the white stone and the new name are in the same vein. Sort of like David's mighty men of valor, he was surrounded by concentric rings of mightier and mightier warriors. as we grow in sonship various aspects of the ministry of Christ become ours.

Jesus the warrior/priest/shepherd/king is our David, and gives the "key of David"- the open door that no man can shut,

Jesus is the Light and walks among the Lampstands, holding the "stars"(presbyteries) in His hand, and I believe the 144,000, the 24 elders that surround the throne, the two anointed ones/olive trees etc., etc, are all aionian images of the actual heavenly tabernacle that is being fitly joined together, living stone by living stone, beyond the veil.

I also believe that if the elders in local churches(city-wide ecclesia, not denominations) could see this, and would order themselves accordingly, the glory of God would return to the temple in their city and their Lampstand would be exalted.  :2c:
The lake of fire is only spoken of in the context of corrections upon the rebellious in the age to come.
Not so. It's just the first time it's called by that names. Which is one of many. Lot's of things had/have several names/descriptions. (Jesus has 200+)

Exo 30:19 Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it.

- There always needs to be a witness of a verse/concept. Without it a verse/concept can be considered as not existing.
- A very large part of Revelation is following the pattern of the daily Temple service.
- Revelation uses many things (altars, incense, etc) found in the literal Temples.
- All animal sacrifices were washed with its water. -> Animals of the clean type.

Combine that with all the names and meanings that were linked to the laver, water and brimstone it's imo without any support it's only for unbelievers. Unless you count (high) priests among the unbelievers. It was even only used for the happy few. The average believing Jew never used it. They just baptized (mikvah) themselves in the living water of rivers.


IMO the bronze laver has nothing to do with the LOF symbolicly or otherwise(except that they are both reservoirs). I think it parrallels baptism, and the submission/sanctification of will necessary to move from the outer court into the holy place.

Since it clearly says that the LOF is for those whose names are not written in the Lambs book of life in Rev 20, I would say there is at least some obvious support for the idea that the LOF is for the correction of the rebellious post GWT.

I personally think that the LOF and Gehenna and the aionian fire that Jesus speaks of in Mt 25:41 and the fire and brimstone of rev 14 are all the same, but that is not provable. Even so, in every case these are all connected to consequences of unbelief, hypocrisy, etc.

No believer/disciple need worry about the LOF or Gehenna, because the blood of Christ is sufficient to cover every sin, as long as faith and love abide.
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
« Last post by Seth on November 28, 2014, 08:22:29 PM »
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Re: Greetings
« Last post by Tom on November 28, 2014, 08:09:00 PM »
Welcome Visitor. We all have a perspective. Feel free to share yours.
Welcome Central - **FIRST POST MUST BE MADE HERE / Greetings
« Last post by TheVisitor on November 28, 2014, 08:07:36 PM »
Just exploring your site. I believe all scripture is inspired and there are no contradictions. I would try to respect your guidelines here. I am not a troll but lets see, let me check in the mirror...of the Word. No troll here. I am not here to argue, just hope to gain a few insights from others and maybe offer a few as well. I hope that lets me qualify to participate here, thanks.
WhiteWings and Micah7:9, would you care to elucidate/suggest some resources to explore what you allude to?
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