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Lounge / Re: Independence Day!
« Last post by rosered on July 04, 2015, 09:13:48 PM »

  I believe in Jesus peace    , He is our protection and safety  and His Kingdom is not of this world .
  I do see the   judgment in the world by divisions  , as Jesus   said and so it is  , if satan is  divided against satan     meaning  adversary  , slanderer  ,accuser
  that   how can his kingdom  stand ?    the world is in  its throws  right now  , so busy , too busy     ..  and as    HOW we judge so shall we be judged accordingly

       A House Divided
…25And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26"If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? 27"If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges.…
 Jesus did not come to bring peace but a SWORD   matt 10 The Sword of the Gospel

34"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…

  AND BRING FIRE  ON THE EARTH   Luke 12 Not Peace, But Division
49"I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! 50"But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!…

   Those two  meanings show me the divisions in Christ /anointing are  very  real      reality ...  that is cutting and burning     of SPIRIT &TRUTH    TO THE CORE .     to dividing of souls from spirits     in many    and  as well meaning as they may be  , having an opinion or "judgment "   can  lead to a world of hurt
    Worshipping the FATHER IN SPIRIT &TRUTH    is everyone's quest really  ,   a journey towards a goal  ,to know exactly what that means ..
  making it a personal conviction    ...  so many are growing in truth and grace   as we see the world crumble and burn   around us , tearing  down the works of mens hands   before our eyes .
 God will build His House  even in troublesome times ,,   not by strength or might but By His Own Spirit   
  I am thankful for every  good and perfect thing God has made right with  Himself already    and  desire to see His completed  GLORY !!

        :dsunny:   Dandelion    :HeartThrob:
  I am not sure how to look at it John ,

  It seems all things  are made for    His glory and all thingscame   into being  because of Him
 I just know  GOD IS SO WISE AND  BEYOND   comprehension     ..
  But have seen many evil things      and heard  and there has been good and bowing down  for Gods help though the suffering  of evil
 Just  one  perspective ...
   John 1 The Beginning
…2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
  4In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men

Men do  shine or fail to shine    His Light
Lounge / Re: Independence Day!
« Last post by Searching_For_The_Truth on July 04, 2015, 08:25:26 PM »
Happy Independence Day to everyone. However, we must keep on praying for our country because we are becoming a more secular society. This week, I read in the news that a court official ordered the Ten Commandments Statue to be removed from the public square in Oklahoma. Sadly after the recent Supreme Court ruling on homosexual marriage, extremist atheists and homosexual advocates feel more empowered to silence people of faith who stand for traditional values.
17After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

20He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and defile a person."  Mark 7

This is how I see it.

If we have choice, which I believe we do, then there will be the potential for evil.

Without choice, we cannot be God's children, but His slaves, only able to choose what He decides for us.

So, God allows evil, and in His infinite wisdom and power, can take that, which is evil, yet use it for good in our lives.

We are placed in a series of circumstances, where we are constantly given choices we can make. Only through God's Will, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and grace, can we choose those that are pleasing to God.

Lounge / Re: Independence Day!
« Last post by Dandelion on July 04, 2015, 08:06:37 PM »
Amen.  Enjoy everyone, and say a prayer for this great country, our home.
Lounge / Re: Independence Day!
« Last post by eaglesway on July 04, 2015, 08:02:23 PM »
I've always loved the best know quote from the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Liberty is a cool word and the basis of patriotism.  All politics aside, the ideas of the founding fathers are awesome.  Enjoy the festivities folks!

I agree.
I dont know if I agree that God ordains every evil thing.

Death camps. Serial muderers. Child killers.

Did God choose their acts?

Jeremiah 19:5 They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal--something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.

Jeremiah is speaking in the first person the words of YHWH Himself. Just a thought. The mystery of causality relating to evil is more complex, in my opinion, than that God ordains all evil- and I know we(humans) like things simple- but it aint :o)

I think God set up an environment where man can choose evil or good, and judges them for it, at least on some level.

Christian Life / Re: Truth and Falsehood
« Last post by eaglesway on July 04, 2015, 07:51:49 PM »
Beautiful post. Truth has a center. We know who He is. His arms are spread wide to embrace all- alpha to omega, beginning to end, east to west.
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