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Christian Life / Re: ISIS spreading like a virus.
« Last post by Jock on Today at 10:42:35 AM »
Onesimus

Your post is very sad and disheartening. Our hearts are with them as we hold them up to the Lord. I know we are told in the book of revelation that many will be beheaded. I am not a brave man, more a soft western man, so I don't know how I could tolerate that. I often think of Peter and take solace from his testimony.  :dontknow:

Bless you all and may the Lord defend and protect you and all others who are in danger of their lives.

Shalom  :Peace2:

Jock.
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Christian Life / Re: ISIS spreading like a virus.
« Last post by onesimus on Today at 09:37:11 AM »
URGENT PRAYER REQUEST

Just received this email and passing it on for your prayerful consideration..

From Stuart Gramenz Ministries:
Dear All,
I have received these two emails yesterday and I just wanted to pass them on so that as many people as possible can pray specifically for our brothers and sisters. Much love and blessings
This is so sad...
A friend just got a text message from her brother asking her to shower him and his parish in prayer. He is part of a mission and ISIS has taken over the town they are in today. He said ISIS is systematically going house to house to all the Christians and asking the children to denounce Jesus. He said so far not one child has. And so far all have consequently been killed. But not the parents. The UN has withdrawn and the missionaries are on their own. They are determined to stick it out for the sake of the families - even if it means their own deaths. He is very afraid, has no idea how to even begin ministering to these families who have seen their children martyred. Yet he says he knows God has called him for some reason to be his voice and hands at this place at this time. Even so, he is begging prayers for his courage to live out his vocation in such dire circumstances. And like the children accept martyrdom if he is called to do so. She asked me to ask everyone we know to please pray for them. These brave parents instilled such a fervent faith in their children that they chose martyrdom. Please surround them in their loss with your prayers for hope and perseverance.
She was able to talk to her brother briefly by phone. She didn't say it but I believe she believes it will be their last conversation. Pray for her too. She said he just kept asking her to help him know what to do and do it. She told him to tell the families we ARE praying for them and they are not alone or forgotten -- no matter what. Her e mail broke my heart. Please keep all in your prayers. Thanks
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This came this morning... Just a few minutes ago I received the following text message on my phone from Sean Malone who leads Crisis Relief International (CRI). We then spoke briefly on the phone and I assured him that we would share this urgent prayer need with all of our contacts.
"We lost the city of Queragosh (Qaraqosh). It fell to ISIS and they are beheading children systematically. This is the city we have been smuggling food too. ISIS has pushed back Peshmerga (Kurdish forces) and is within 10 minutes of where our CRI team is working. Thousands more fled into the city of Erbil last night. The UN evacuated it's staff in Erbil. Our team is unmoved and will stay. Prayer cover needed!"
Please pray sincerely for the deliverance of the people of Northern Iraq from the terrible advancement of ISIS and its extreme Islamic goals for mass conversion or death for Christians across this region. May I plead with you not to ignore this email.
Do not forward it before you have prayed through it. Then send it to as many people as possible. Send it to friends and Christians you may know. Send it to your prayer group. Send it to your pastor and phone him/her to pray on Sunday during the service - making a special time of prayer for this. We need to stand in the gap for our fellow Christians.
MAY THE LORDG IVE OUR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE STRONG IN THEIR FAITH!
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Lounge / Re: Work in Genesis
« Last post by ed on Today at 06:31:55 AM »
After Adam and Eve, it was commanded that Adam work, yet Jesus said  our lives were to be of worry-less dependence (lillies of the field etc..)

Was work a condemnation for those who wouldn't follow God, or for everyone?

I thought Jesus was a Carpenter?

 :laugh:
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Judgement and Punishment / Re: The problem of evil
« Last post by micah7:9 on Today at 05:37:18 AM »
The problem of evil.....without the Lord and His Grace....without the Father drawing a soul to Jesus....evil will be man's evolving and ever interesting little world of human enticement exciting his natural instincts... Yeah that's my opinion.
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Good, interesting thoughts, Seth!!
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Lounge / Re: Work in Genesis
« Last post by micah7:9 on Today at 05:28:13 AM »
For man to work- toil was the very plan, our first step in learning, that at graduation....should we hear.... there was an easy yoke. Yeah my opinion.
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Dajomaco said

"10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For he who said, "You shall not commit adultery,"b also said, "You shall not murder."c If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker."

When the real truth of this verse was revealed to me.
The last thing I wanted to see was sin.
Not only Sin in my life But especially sin in a brother or sisters life.



May I encourage you by mentioning Paul's victorious statement; "that where sin abounded, grace much more abounded" (Romans 5:20).

The first 'abounded' in relation to sin means 'to superabound' and the second 'abound' in relation to grace is a completely different word, which means 'to abound exceedingly much more'. So, even when it seems that sin abounds (in ourselves or others) we can be more confident that the grace of God is working (often behind the scenes) exceedingly much more..

The best biblical example of this grace can be drawn from the verse you referred to in James 2, "For he who said, "You shall not commit adultery,"b also said, "You shall not murder."c If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker."

Like James, I think many pick out murder and adultery as the two ugliest transgressions. And yet, we also know that King David committed both of these. In a most gruesome, deliberate way, too. (1 and 2 Samuel). I mean, to qualify it, imagine the outcry if a US President stole the wife of a decorated 5 star general, made her pregnant, conspired to have the general killed on the battle field and then took the wife to be his own. David did the equivalent to Uriah with Bathsheba.

He was punished for it, although it took Samuel to get David to admit he had even done it. He lost the child, which was with Bathsheba from his adultery.

Yet, and this is a really big 'yet', although David had many wives, it was from Bathsheba's next union with David that we trace the human lineage of Jesus our Saviour.

As if to highlight this confounding fact, Mathew, in the opening passage of the NT, when listing the genealogy of Christ, refers to Bathsheba as 'her who had been the wife of Uriah.' It's like he wanted people to know the 'neighborhood' Christ came from.

Perhaps, even more than that, Jesus, the God of all, is called both the root and the offspring of David (rev 22:10). And it is David's throne that Christ sits upon (2 Samuel 7:13-16)..

It is an affront to the religious mind. But is hard to ignore; that Christ arriving into this world and into our lives came despite his human origins being sourced in such extreme acts of sin..

So, when I think of the heaviness of sin, I also think of the much more exceeding heaviness of grace.

Maybe that is partly what James had in mind too, when he said, a little further down the page in 2: 13, that 'mercy triumphs over judgement..'

I can understand why we call this grace 'amazing'.

See, according to Paul, Grace chastens  God's people to abandon ungodliness (Titus 2:11-12). That's something the Christian church doesn't like to talk about. That's the kind of Grace Paul was teaching that superabounds.
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Dajomaco said

"10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For he who said, "You shall not commit adultery,"b also said, "You shall not murder."c If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker."

When the real truth of this verse was revealed to me.
The last thing I wanted to see was sin.
Not only Sin in my life But especially sin in a brother or sisters life.



May I encourage you by mentioning Paul's victorious statement; "that where sin abounded, grace much more abounded" (Romans 5:20).

The first 'abounded' in relation to sin means 'to superabound' and the second 'abound' in relation to grace is a completely different word, which means 'to abound exceedingly much more'. So, even when it seems that sin abounds (in ourselves or others) we can be more confident that the grace of God is working (often behind the scenes) exceedingly much more..

The best biblical example of this grace can be drawn from the verse you referred to in James 2, "For he who said, "You shall not commit adultery,"b also said, "You shall not murder."c If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker."

Like James, I think many pick out murder and adultery as the two ugliest transgressions. And yet, we also know that King David committed both of these. In a most gruesome, deliberate way, too. (1 and 2 Samuel). I mean, to qualify it, imagine the outcry if a US President stole the wife of a decorated 5 star general, made her pregnant, conspired to have the general killed on the battle field and then took the wife to be his own. David did the equivalent to Uriah with Bathsheba.

He was punished for it, although it took Samuel to get David to admit he had even done it. He lost the child, which was with Bathsheba from his adultery.

Yet, and this is a really big 'yet', although David had many wives, it was from Bathsheba's next union with David that we trace the human lineage of Jesus our Saviour.

As if to highlight this confounding fact, Mathew, in the opening passage of the NT, when listing the genealogy of Christ, refers to Bathsheba as 'her who had been the wife of Uriah.' It's like he wanted people to know the 'neighborhood' Christ came from.

Perhaps, even more than that, Jesus, the God of all, is called both the root and the offspring of David (rev 22:10). And it is David's throne that Christ sits upon (2 Samuel 7:13-16)..

It is an affront to the religious mind. But is hard to ignore; that Christ arriving into this world and into our lives came despite his human origins being sourced in such extreme acts of sin..

So, when I think of the heaviness of sin, I also think of the much more exceeding heaviness of grace.

Maybe that is partly what James had in mind too, when he said, a little further down the page in 2: 13, that 'mercy triumphs over judgement..'

I can understand why we call this grace 'amazing'.
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Lounge / Re: Work in Genesis
« Last post by eaglesway on Today at 04:23:20 AM »
Whether we work or not, worry changes nothing for the better.
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one thing I have thought about is the cross as a symbol of sincerity and graphic importance.. a symbol of God's forgiveness and reaching out which is strong enough to pierce every psyche`

I guess I think wandering from God is a psychosis... now that I think about it! And what else (but the cross) would work? able to transform/reconcile all.. :Chinscratch:

...just some thoughts.. :smile:


Wonderful thoughts :o)
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