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Offline Deena

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His purpose for billions of people?
« on: June 17, 2013, 05:31:06 AM »
I have been traveling about Europe (primarily Italy) and am absolutely astounded by the vast crush of humanity (especially at heathrow airport). At home in my American suburb, it is easier for me to believe God has everything in control, but some of the very over populated areas that I have seen shake that. The reality of billions of people living, and exponentially those dead, is overwhelming. What does God have planned for them all?  I get it that God will bring all to Himself, but what for? Why continue to produce so many people? We seem so insignificant. I feel so insignificant and God so aloof. What is the point of it all? (I only occasionally have access to wifi, so I will check back for a reply--thank you)
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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2013, 06:17:55 AM »
I'm not sure what shook you, but I can tell you how I look at things.  God being complete in of Himself, I always wondered why make us at all.  Then I realized something.  God defines Himself as agape love.  That is our starting point.  Does agape love keep to itself?  Does it isolate?  While you can't make agape love anymore agape, part of its definition manifests in the sharing of itself.  I believe God made us because it was in His nature to create and share of Himself.  Should He just make one of us or maybe a few?  Where does He stop?  Since He has the hairs on each of our heads numbered, how minor of a task is keeping track of billions upons billions?  Does He not control trillions of microscopic cells in each of the billions?  It should overwhelm your brain because you are human.  But, it is a simple task for God.

So, instead of observing the multitudes and allowing it to shake your faith...why not see it as a perfect example of the awesomeness of our God.  In the sense of sharing God's agape love...the old verbiage "if one if good, two is better"...if one is good billions upon billions are better.
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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2013, 04:22:41 PM »
Shawn's right. It's because we cannot grasp infinite love, infinite God, omniscient God, all-powerful God, etc.
...and we can only guess at his plans :Chinscratch:
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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2013, 10:20:47 PM »
What shook me was being pressed in on so many sides that I felt only mob control. Has anyone else felt that? It goes beyond platitudes. No offense intended, but the experience is unnerving.
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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2013, 11:32:25 PM »
Dear Deena, I hope you don't mind me writing a word or two about your concerns. I once felt the hubbub too much and so went to live in a meditation centre for a year and half but that was a long time ago.

Where I live, there are no mountains or forests but if there were, I might take a journey over them and look at the wondrous beauty of the sturdy trees that serve a number of purposes and also the pretty flowers as they offer pastel and deep colours and delightful fragrances as a free gift to all, then I would trace their life back to a state of perfection far greater than even these little emblems of God's Love provide. This would tell me many things but one thing it would tell me is that God has everything under His control - His laws and His plans cover everything. God leaves little signs along the way of a pilgrim's journey to mark off the milestones, but a pilgrim's faith is tested and sometimes those tests are severe but please remember then comes the sign. Bless.

PS. Sometimes the fragrance of Jesus comes upon us with strength. Sometimes this fragrance is so strong with sweetness like mead. I just felt I should say that. The people contributing to this forum help discover this sweet fragrance too, the fragrance of Jesus.


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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:06:45 AM »
Consider that God made a universe containing some 100 BILLION galaxies, each with billions (or maybe Sagans) of stars.  Throw in planets, moons, comets, asteroids and all the rest, and you've got a lot of stuff.  Unlike Heisenberg, however, God knows where every atom is, where it is going and how fast.  Billions of people should not be such a big deal - like the oak in the acorn, we all existed in Adam and Eve.  Yes, I have been in the crush of large crowds, and had to push, squeeze and fight my way out.
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Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: His purpose for billions of people?
« Reply #6 on: Today at 05:11:41 AM »
It has to do with the everlasting covenant with Abraham.


 But Abram replied, "O Sovereign Lord, what good are all your blessings when I don't even have a son? Since you've given me no children, Eliezer of Damascus, a servant in my household, will inherit all my wealth. 3 You have given me no descendants of my own, so one of my servants will be my heir."

4 Then the Lord said to him, "No, your servant will not be your heir, for you will have a son of your own who will be your heir." 5 Then the Lord took Abram outside and said to him, "Look up into the sky and count the stars if you can. That's how many descendants you will have!"

6 And Abram believed the Lord, and the Lord counted him as righteous because of his faith.

--Gen 15


So far, two billion and counting...
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