White stone

[WhiteWings]

(Rev 2:17) He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the congregations. To him who overcomes, I will give him to eat of the hidden manna. And I will give him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, which none knows


The hidden manna is a reference to the pot of manna that was hidden inside the Ark of the Covenant (Ex. 16:33; Heb. 9:4). To have access to that hidden manna, one must have access to the Ark of the Covenant. Only the high priest could come into the Most Holy Place. Thus, the overcomers must be part of the body of Christ, who is the High Priest after the Order of Melchisedec (Heb. 5:6).

The Levites had access to the outer court; the Aaronic priests had access to the Holy Place; but only the high priest had access once a year to the Most Holy Place. These correspond in the New Testament era to "Passover" believers who have been justified by faith; to "Pentecost" believers who have been sanctified, or set apart as priests of God, and to "Tabernacles" believers, who are the overcomers.

The manna in the wilderness was for all men as it lay upon the ground in the camp of Israel. But the hidden manna was not for all Israel, for it was hidden in the Ark of the Covenant. All manna represents the Word of God. But the Word of God consists of many different words. Jesus was able to teach His disciples only certain things while He walked this earth. There were hidden truths that He was unable to teach them at that time. But He promised that the Holy Spirit would be given, wherein the believers would have the potential of receiving the hidden manna not revealed to the average believer.

The White Stone
When judges met to decide a case, it was customary to cast their ballot for guilt or innocence by using either a white stone or a black stone. God is the only One who casts a vote to determine who is an overcomer. He gives an overcomer a white stone. The contrast is that the rest of the believers, who must be "saved yet so as through fire," are given a black stone instead.

This does not mean they are unbelievers; it means that they are not qualified to receive life in the first resurrection (Rev. 20:4-6) and must await the general resurrection a thousand years later. They will be raised along with the unbelievers (John 5:28, 29) and will then receive their reward after being given either "few stripes" or "many stripes" (Luke 12:48)


The Spirit of the Lord The Seven Spirits of God were distributed to the Seven Churches. These Seven Spirits mentioned in Rev. 1:4 are listed in Isaiah 11:4. These correlate with the seven churches as follows:

NT Church Spirit Given Reward Ephesus Spirit of the Lord Tree of Life Smyrna Understanding Crown of Life Pergamos Counsel White Stone Thyatira Knowledge Morning Star Sardis Wisdom White Clothes Philadelphia Strength (Might) Pillar in Temple Laodicea Fear of the Lord Sit in Throne (Isa 62:2) And the nations shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory. And thou shall be called by a new name,which the mouth of LORD shall name. The above verse is a reference to Rev 2:17 NEW חדשׁ châdâsh BDB Definition: 1) new, new thing, fresh Part of Speech: adjective A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H2318 Same Word by TWOT Number: 613a The adjective form means: holy To be continued,..

[anna274]

Hi WW:  I'm on a break ( my study on Be still Know God is going really great.  Looking at John 17 mostly) ... just wanted to peek in but then saw your post and I'm too interested in white stone right now to not log in ... and behold an even bigger treasure:  the info on the Seven Spirits ...  NT churches...  Thanks so much...  anna   

[Molly]

This is all very good.

The part about the seven churches/seven spirits refers to receiving the full measure of the Holy Spirit.


And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;  Isa 11:2

[peacemaker]

The Great Pyramid of Giza, encased in white stones (144,000) is one of the Seven Wonders of the World.

"Metamorphic rock altered by pressure and heat!"

[lomarah]

The Great Pyramid of Giza, encased in white stones (144,000) is one of the Seven Wonders of the World.

"Metamorphic rock altered by pressure and heat!"

COOL!!!

OMG really though?? Is that for real??

[peacemaker]

Literally! And it was viewed with awe for approximately fifty centuries or 5,000 years.

Now, men exalt themselves: "The stone of theology that enslaves humanity."

[peacemaker]

"The stone of theology that enslaves humanity."

Most of the white stones were taken, after the 13th Century to build temples and mosques.

Interesting, is it not?

[peacemaker]

"The stone of theology that enslaves humanity."

Most of the white stones were taken, after the 13th Century to build temples and mosques.

Interesting, is it not?

"The Palaces of Men."

[lomarah]

Wow that is really cool stuff! Very interesting for sure!

[Molly]

The Great Pyramid of Giza, encased in white stones (144,000) is one of the Seven Wonders of the World.

"Metamorphic rock altered by pressure and heat!"

hmm...altered by pressure and heat...



Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

--Mat 7:14



"tribulation"

G2347
θλίψις
thlipsis
thlip'-sis
From G2346; pressure (literally or figuratively): - afflicted, (-tion), anguish, burdened, persecution, tribulation, trouble.

[peacemaker]

"Men desire to rebuild their temple that crumbled, even at the expense or sacrifice of others."

[Molly]

Man can't rebuild the Temple, only God.



Jeremiah 18:4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.


My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing...
--James 1

temptations=pierasmos=adversity, experience of evil, [trials and tribulation]
root word=a test

[rosered]

  I found this and thought  its important   enough to   bring up with all the warring in the EAST    right now

  and how    Jesus   testimony is the Spirit of prophecy   
and how WE ARE TO  know how to interpret this present time  !!!

As the literal and spiritual   fulfillment  for this time and generation     simultaneously        the inward  work of the outward   manifestation  becoming a reality       that many live and die though      and by the Spirit Jesus returns being the Life      as man  of sin   being death   working     though fulfillment /generation

Generation is the act of producing offspring. In kinship terminology, it is a structural term designating the parent-child relationship   Ishmael 

  He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

Gen 16

16:7-16 Hagar was out of her place, and out of the way of her duty, and going further astray, when the Angel found her. It is a great mercy to be stopped in a sinful way, either by conscience or by providence. Whence comest thou? Consider that thou art running from duty, and the privileges thou wast blest with in Abram's tent. It is good to live in a religious family, which those ought to consider who have this advantage. Whither wilt thou go? Thou art running into sin; if Hagar return to Egypt, she will return to idol gods, and into danger in the wilderness through which she must travel. Recollecting who we are, would often teach us our duty. Inquiring whence we came, would show us our sin and folly. Considering whither we shall go, discovers our danger and misery. And those who leave their space and duty, must hasten their return, how mortifying soever it be. The declaration of the Angel, I will, shows this Angel was the eternal Word and Son of God. Hagar could not but admire the Lord's mercy, and feel, Have I, who am so unworthy, been favoured with a gracious visit from the Lord? She was brought to a better temper, returned, and by her behaviour softened Sarai, and received more gentle treatment. Would that we were always suitably impressed with this thought, Thou God seest me!

Pulpit Commentary

Verse 12. - And he will be a wild man. Literally, a wild ass (of a) man; the פֶּרֶא, snarler, being so called from its swiftness of foot (cf. Job 39:5-8), and aptly depicting "the Bedouin s boundless love of freedom as he rides about in the desert, spear in hand, upon his camel or his horse, hardy, frugal, reveling in the varied beauty of nature, and despising town life in every form" (Keil). As Ishmael and his offspring are here called "wild ass men," so Israel is designated by the prophet "sheep men" (Ezekiel 36:37, 38). His hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him. Exemplified in the turbulent and lawless character of the Bedouin Arabs and Saracens for upwards of thirty centuries. "The Bedouins are the outlaws among the nations. Plunder is legitimate gain, and daring robbery is praised as valor (Kalisch). And he shall dwell in the presence of - literally, before the face of, L e. to the east of (Rosenmüller, Gesenius, Tuch, Knobel, Delitzsch); or, "everywhere before the eyes of" (Kalisch, Wordsworth); or, independently of (Calvin, Keil, Lunge, Murphy) - all his brethren. The Arabs of today are "just as they were described by the spirit of prophecy nearly 4000 years ago" (Porter's 'Giant Cities of Bashan,' pp. 28, 31, 324).

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And he will be a wild man,.... Living in a wilderness, delighting in hunting and killing wild beasts, and robbing and plundering all that pass by; and such an one Ishmael was, see Genesis 21:20; and such the Saracens, his posterity, were, and such the wild Arabs are to this day, who descended from him; or "the wild ass of a man" (t); or "a wild ass among men", as Onkelos; or "like to a wild ass among men", as the Targum of Jonathan; wild, fierce, untamed, not subject to a yoke, and impatient of it, see Job 11:12; such was Ishmael, and such are his posterity, who never could be subdued or brought into bondage, neither by the Assyrians, nor Medes and Persians, nor by the Greeks nor Romans, nor any other people (u); and at this day the Arabs live independent on the Turks, nay, oblige the Turks to pay a yearly tribute for the passage of their pilgrims to Mecca, and also to pay for their caravans that pass through their country, as travellers into those parts unanimously report; wherefore Aben Ezra translates the word rendered "wild", or "wild ass", by "free", and refers to the passage in Job 39:5. These people having been always free, and never in bondage, always lived as free booters upon others:

his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; signifying, that he would be of a quarrelsome temper and warlike disposition, continually engaged in fighting with his neighbours, and they with him in their own defence; and such the Arabs his posterity always have been, and still are, given to rapine and plunder, harassing their neighbours by continual excursions and robberies, and pillaging passengers of all nations, which they think they have a right to do; their father Ishmael being turned out into the plains and deserts, which were given him as his patrimony, and as they suppose a permission from God to take whatever he could get. And a late traveller into those parts observes (w), that they are not to be accused of plundering strangers only, or whomsoever they may find unarmed or defenceless; but for those many implacable and hereditary animosities which continually subsist among themselves, literally fulfilling to this day the prophecy of the angel to Hagar, Genesis 16:12; the greatest as well as the smallest tribes are perpetually at variance with one another, frequently occasioned upon the most trivial account, as if they were from the very days of their first ancestor naturally prone to discord and contention.

And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren; the sons of Abram by Keturah, the Midianites, and others; and the Edomites that sprung from Esau, the son of his brother Isaac; and the Israelites, the descendants of Jacob, another son of Isaac; and his kinsmen the Moabites and Ammonites, upon all which he and his posterity bordered, see Genesis 25:18. It may be rendered, "he shall tabernacle" (x), or dwell in tents, as he did, and his posterity afterwards; particularly the Scenite Arabs, so called from their dwelling in tents, and the Bedouins, such were the tents of Kedar, one of his sons, Sol 1:5; the same with them to this day: according to Jarchi, the sense of the phrase is, that his seed should be large and numerous, and spread themselves, and reach to the borders of all their brethren.

(t) "onager hominis", Cocceius, Schmidt. (u) Vid. Diodor. Sicul. Bibliothec. l. 2. p. 131. (w) Dr. Shaw's Travels, p. 238, 239. Ed. 2.((x) "figet tabernacula", V. L. "tabernaculabit", Malvenda.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

12. he will be a wild man—literally, "a wild ass man," expressing how the wildness of Ishmael and his descendants resembles that of the wild ass.

his hand will be against every man—descriptive of the rude, turbulent, and plundering character of the Arabs.

dwell in the presence of all his brethren—dwell, that is, pitch tents; and the meaning is that they maintain their independence in spite of all attempts to extirpate or subdue them.

Genesis 16:12

Sarah, Hagar and Ishmael
...11The angel of the LORD said to her further, "Behold, you are with child, And you will bear a son; And you shall call his name Ishmael, Because the LORD has given heed to your affliction. 12"He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers." 13Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, "You are a God who sees"; for she said, "Have I even remained alive here after seeing Him?

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