The way I see the way others see it (wow talk about ambiguity
) many look at the judgements of the OT and drag it into the NT or drag the NT back to the OT.
Now we go back to the 1st offence of Adam.
Now he was punished Finito. He is not still paying for his mistake in hell or is he?
Likewise with all the folk God had killed or used the earth to swallow them up. They died, punishment executed. Now in hell?
This mindset is the "come up hither" so I can really show you how mad I am
Then we have "it is finished" yet God is still this awful dude with a bad temper. Well we have the flood to thank for that. Was it global? Maybe but at worst a huge Tsunami worldwide and there must have been survivors, look at the many different races, Oh of course I forgot that has to do with the climate,
Put a black man and woman in the Steppes of Russia and it sure will take many generations, if ever, that the offspring will change features and likewise I am probably 6th/7th generation in Africa and my kids look the same more or less as my wife and I. BTW I am not racist.
Sin has consequence in this life, sowing and reaping, after that, if any believe we still need purging, then the cross is of no effect.
Jesus came to save us from our sins.
The judgement, I last read was works (deeds) dead or good. And the WTJ, who's name is in the Book of Life? Notice singular, there's the clue.
So either we all burn or we all don't, which is it? The names cast into is not Fred Susan Joe etc. It is whore-monger, thief, murderer, liar etc. Know them?
I do, they belong to the carnal nature, the carnal nature is what gets snuffed out.