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I don't know what to make of this video, the first part particularly. I guess I'm troubles because I can't offer any real rebuttal.


Hello darsemnos

I would have rather we met over a different topic but so be it

These things are good in the fact that they will help to cleanse the church of those who do not really believe in Jesus but are for whatever reason hanging in the shadows instead of becoming one with the light and the truth.

First off no one who has done much research past childhood sunday school believes that christmas has anything remotely close to to do with the timing of Jesus birth at the end of September........ the fact that it does for all those other "gods" is not a problem for the truth but only for those lesser gods who are not gods but are attached to the significance of that day as seen by false worshippers.

Just as the journey from Mt Hermon to the dead sea and the brain of man to his bowel as well as the stars in the heavens are all in the likeness of creation and man's worship of God, is all just more proof of Paul's words that all around us we see the work of His hands and that man is left without an excuse.

However for myself I have been given a more sure word of prophecy and have gone to the other side and returned. During that time of being out of the body I have seen some of what what the Apostle John saw in the future as well as in a time of prayer I have been taken back in time and shown our Lord and Savior on the Cross. Rather than use either of these events to further my own standing before anyone let alone before God I have always felt since those times that because I have seen and believed through seeing I will never be able to share in the blessings of those who have believed but not seen........ but I am still grateful for being given living proof when I was living a wicked life and one of Satan's success stories to now having gone from underworld kingpin to servant of the most high

We are told to stay away from those who worship stars and a host of other things but I have sat with those who worship Satan and seen them loose control of their emotions and bodily functions in the presence of God's angels...... There is no other power other than the  presence of the Living God given unto us through the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. Furthermore I would rather not see things like this video made available for view at this site by those who have not yet had their senses exercised between good and evil. I feel strongly enough about that to consider this a fair warning for those who are responsible for what is viewed here.

Taking and misleading newly born again Christians is a serious sin................. if one believes in the Words of Jesus

Mt. 18: 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!




I'm not trying to make other people question their faith. I just have nagging doubts about my own based on things like this that make reasonable points that I can't refute. Shall I abandon intellectual debate because of where it might lead? I don't know.

LivelyStone is correct,

Christmas and Easter are first and foremost pagan holidays and have nothing to do with Christianity. You can thank the Catholic church for making them ours. So their system falls apart rather quickly at this point. The problem is they have truth mixed in with nontruths. For example I have always been confused about building 7 at the WTC complex. I believe the Goverment is covering up many things however, I do not believe we did this to ourselves. They do a good job of make something look and sound like the truth by using truth mixed with nontruths. Just ask Michael Moore. 



--- Quote from: darsemnos on August 06, 2007, 02:23:22 AM ---I'm not trying to make other people question their faith. I just have nagging doubts about my own based on things like this that make reasonable points that I can't refute. Shall I abandon intellectual debate because of where it might lead? I don't know.

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I know where you are coming from and there were years when I too was in doubt of the truth but I was also thinking with a natural mind and had not yet seen His power and righteousness. But then there came a time when I had to know the truth and everything else took a backstage. In time He started to answer my prayers and even though what I could see was not clearly understood by me at the time, I knew power and truth when I was seeing it.

God is that way with with all His children and if you seek after Him with all your heart He will show Himself to you. Those who do not believe will never see the truth because of their unbelief but I do not believe you have been chosen for unbelief.

However you do need to separate yourself from what is not true and that video has been put together by ones who are listening to the voice of our enemy who is the father of lies. Meanwhile you have come to a good place and here you will witness the strength of the faith of many others even when we are different places on the path to Him.  I will take a shot from the hip and just suggest to you that in your prayers that if you ask Him to accept your obedience in compliance to His commands while He does His work in you, in time you will see Him in a way that no one will ever be able to take you out of His Hand.

Jn. 10: 24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Things are just getting started up here again but just give it and Him a little time......... You will be glad you did and the faith that is given unto you will convince others of Him.





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