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ded2daworld:
Reading 1 peter 1 today and was struck by the fact that peter never once mentioned the return of Jesus, He did however mention "when Christ be revealed to you" 3 times and "when Christ be manifested to you"
I wonder why the difference? Help me out please?

lomarah:
Those who hear from God say that Christ is returning in His many membered body. That means US! Which would be the same as Christ being manifested to us. "When we see Him, we will be like Him." So the return of Christ is His manifestation in His many membered body, at least that is what those who hear tell me. (I believe them, and it's exciting!!!)

jabcat:
ded, I'd personally guess it's one isolated wording, and there are other scrips to also include.

Do you think 1 John 3:2 is related, as well as Colossians 3:4 and I Corinthians 15 enter into it?  My understanding is, when Jesus ushers in the next age, He is revealed to us, literally appears to us ("we will be like Him", because we will "see Him as He is" 1 John 3:2) - then we are transformed into His likeness, we will be as He is, upon His return and our miraculous transformation.   Col. 3:4. (from the extremely literal Christian Bible - "When the Anointed One, who is our Life, appears [at the beginning of the Last Age], then you too will appear together with Him in glory."  (notice 'together with' Him)


:dontknow:, I could be wrong.  There are different interpretations as to what that means, and as Lomorah pointed out and has been discussed before, some believe that will be either before or without Christ's literal return.  I personally believe it will be as described in Acts 1:1 - "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."  And I Cor. 15 - [THIS is apparently a miraculous and sudden event, and will be accompanied by a resurrection of the dead in Christ]  "..we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.."   Blessings.   

ded2daworld:
It just seemed strange to me that he would use the terms revealed and manifested rather than return. I don't think the word return was used at all in that chapter. I believe God has a reason to choose the words he uses to mean what he says. I'll see if I get more input. Maaybe something totally off the wall will jump out at me :laughing7:

jabcat:
I checked the Greek Interlinear.  Interestingly in vs. 7 and 9, the Greek word is the same, and literally supposedly translate as From-covering/unveiling.  However, in the actual text, the GI translates them differently - once as appearing in vs. 7, and the other time as revelation in vs. 13.

Then, in vs. 20 it's a totally different word, translated as manifest.  I see there it's talking of Jesus being "hidden" in the OT, then made apparent/manifested as the Messiah and "available" for belief in Him unto salvation IN THIS AGE.  On the other hand, vs. 7 and 13 seem to be talking about a coming at the beginning of the NEXT age.   Yes, interesting.  I'll check some more references.  :Chinscratch:

7 might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
apokaluyei
apokalupsei
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n_ Dat Sg f
FROM-COVERing
unveiling

13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

apokaluyei
apokalupsei
G602
n_ Dat Sg f
FROM-COVERing
unveiling

,
20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you
fanerwqentos
phanerOthentos
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vp Aor Pas Gen Sg m
BEING-made-APPEAR
being-manifested


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