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« on: October 09, 2012, 02:47:22 PM »
re:  "Many of us have to function outside meetings in pursuit of "The measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ."
 reFORMer Tentmaker Forum Oct 9, 2012 Prophecy thread

Thank you reFORMer...  Due to circumstances beyond my immediate control, my internet service provider will be canceling my service for a six-week period starting today at 8 a.m....    as I was reading your reply, I was reminded that I really need to look into the whole "fulness of Gentiles" issue--which seems to me is related to the  fulness of Christ... and I need time away from the many distractions, diversions, etc., so not having Internet Service may just end up being a good thing.


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Re: fulness of Christ/fulness of Gentiles
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 06:00:51 PM »
 the fullnes of the gentiles has to do with 'Harvest" of the vine of the earth and Christ's grapes/vine...

   He will either walk in you..or He will walk on and crush you....... when He treads the earth

   Now go back to when He tread the earth in the flesh as the Lamb...and discern His judgements

  on the offspring of vipers.  note His wrath and mercy...His sterness and tenderness... as He

  dealt with the people's

   note His cry to Jerusalem for rejecting Him...."if you had only known what would bring you peace"...

   and increase that to the whole world..

   Just as it was in the days of Noah....It was the same in the days of Lot...It will be just like this

  on the day the Son of man is revealed..........

   a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea and said,

   "WITH SUCH VIOLENCE THE GREAT CITY OF BABYLON WILL BE THROWN DOWN NEVER TO BE FOUND

  AGAIN"    The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn.......

   I tell all of you   'Prepare to meet your maker"....do everything you can to be found blameless and spotless

  and at peace at His coming.

   does this sound like eter's?   God is just,He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you...

  and give relief  to you who are troubled,and to us as well.  THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE LORD

  JESUS IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN IN BLAZING FIRE[first bind the tares in bundles for burning]

 WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS. HE WILL PUNISH THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW GOD AND DO

NOT OBEY THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS... They will be punished on the day He comes to

  TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS HOLY PEOPLE AND TO BE MARVELED AT AMONG ALL THOSE

WHO HAVE BELIEVED.........

     THIS INCLUDES YOU BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED OUR TESTIMONY TO YOU.

   get out of her my people= seperate yourselves now..or His angels will in blazing fire[Rev 20;9]

   

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Re: fulness of Christ/fulness of Gentiles
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 06:11:20 PM »
   God had planned something better for us so that THE WOULD NOT BE MADE PERFECT APART FROM US

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Re: fulness of Christ/fulness of Gentiles
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 06:49:08 PM »
And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who are these?

9 And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.

10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he could not see. And he brought them near unto him; and he kissed them, and embraced them.

11 And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face: and, lo, God hath shewed me also thy seed.

12 And Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth.

13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near unto him.

14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.

15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,

16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.

21 And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers.

22 Moreover I have given to thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow.

--Gen 48



Joseph who is separated from his brothers and sold into slavery, hidden among the Gentiles, marries a Gentile wife and brings his Gentile sons before his father for the birthright blessing.

Joseph received a double portion through Ephraim and Manasseh, and it is through  them that the Gentiles are brought in.



his seed shall become a multitude of nations



"a multitude"

H4393
מלו    מלוא    מלא
melô'  melô'  melô
mel-o', mel-o', mel-o'
From H4390; fulness (literally or figuratively): -  X all along, X all that is (there-) in, fill, (X that whereof . . . was) full, fulness, [hand-] full, multitude.



"of nations"

H1471
גּי    גּוי
gôy  gôy
go'ee, go'-ee
Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.




The birthright blessing passed through Ephraim, the prince of the lost house of Israel, his seed shall become a multitude of nations, is the fulness [melô]  of the Gentiles [goy].




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Re: fulness of Christ/fulness of Gentiles
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 07:32:21 PM »
  Joseph is a fruitful vine near a spring whose branches clim over the wall. With bitterness archers

  attacked him, they shot t him with hostility. but his bow remained steady,his strong arms limber,

  because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,because of the shepherd, the rock of Isreal.

  because of your Father's God, who helps you,because of the Almighty who Blesses you,

  with blessings of the heavens above,blessings of the deep that lies below,blessings of the breast

  and womb. Your Father's blessings are greater that the blessings of the ancient mountains, than

  the bounty of the age old hills.  Let all these rest on the head of Joseph, and the brow of the prince among

  his brothers

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Re: fulness of Christ/fulness of Gentiles
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2012, 08:20:09 PM »
I just love that--Let all these rest on the head of Joseph, the prince among his brothers--how could we be so blessed?  because, yes, I do claim this birthright through Christ.




4 And when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren, they hated him, and could not speak peaceably unto him.
 
5 And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet the more.
 
6 And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed:
 
7 For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf.
 
8 And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words.
 
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
 
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
 
11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying

Gen 37