In fact I would suggest that the biblical warning to go to a brother and correct him is more about sharing with one another so that can be exposed through the spirit rather than I as a person making the declaration that someone else is wrong.
If I believe I am right and you are wrong, what happens if I have only convinced myself of that and it is the other way around. Well, coming to each other in the spirit of sharing will uncover that in love, not accusation. That rubs across and takes off a little dullness from each person at each pass
Dear brother Paul
Thank you for your gracious response. I apologize for my reply being such a long one. I hope you do me the honour to read it fully and respond in like manner.
I agree with everything that you and Nathan have to say, and I have the deepest respect for your opinions (I will reply to Nathan's response later), but I'm afraid the whole discussion has got terribly mixed up. My previous topic "Dan.12:4" appeared to go astray so I opened this new thread with the intention of looking at it from a different perspective, "Through the eyes of a child. Gen.2:25)"
As I have said earlier an old man's dream is as clear as the sun in a bright cloudless sky, when it comes; but when it comes to sharing it, as we are commanded to do, man makes a mess of it. I have agonized over your postings and tried to explain, but on every occasion, seemingly, made a mess of it. A clear example of, "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death."
(Pro.14:12 & 16:25)
All things are of God. All wisdom, intellect, creation, all knowledge including that of good and evil, you and I, all belong to God and are of Him. Nothing exists outside of God. He commands and insists that He be obeyed. End of story.
My use of the word intellect earlier has caused confusion, as can be seen in sister Sarah's post. It wasn't intended to be taken in the light it was taken in. So I cried out to the Lord and asked why He is giving me all this and not supplying the means to deliver it, and this I believe is His reply. It is in the form of an analogy.
Adam and Eve were created as innocent as new born babes, and God's free gift of intellect was planted in them with the knowledge of God, and God only. They were naked and unashamed. They had no knowledge of lust of the flesh or lust of the eyes or any other form of lust, they were innocent. "And the man and his wife were both naked and were notashamed."
(Gen.2:25). God gave them licence to eat of any of the numerous trees in the garden that they desired, but commanded them to leave one particular tree, the one containing the knowledge of good and evil, well alone. "The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."
Now let us transfer this into the 21st century
Man is in the 21st century garden of Eden and God commands him saying, "From any book in the world's libraries you may study but from the Book that is in the middle of the garden, the Word of God which is closed by My specific command you may not study or you will surely die." (analogy only).
Back to Adam's Eden.
But Satan says; now there's a thing, did God really say that and you believe Him? Don't believe that lie, you shall not die, in fact you will become like Him and know everything. You will be like Him and put Him out of business. That's what He is afraid of. Go ahead and eat and I'll prove it to you. And so man ate and brought death upon himself. "Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?" The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.' " The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die! "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate."
Then man's eyes were opened and they realized that they were naked and could see all the goodies that lay in their loin area and they began to lust for the flesh that their eyes could see. And they became ashamed and covered those offensive parts with fig leaves. "Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings. They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" He said, "I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself."
Now back to the 21st century garden of Eden.
Intellect belongs to God, given to man as a gift to be used for his survival and progress in matters of the world that He, God, has created for him. He can use it for whatever purpose he desires. It is good, it is very good, with it man can explore the depths of the sea, map the contours of the earth, walk on the moon, spread news round the world within seconds, clone sheep, send probes to distant planets, explore space itself. Oh yes! Man can do wonders with that intellect that God has so generously given him, It is good and we are grateful that God has been so gracious.
But man is not satisfied, he has become greedy and he wants more. So his mind goes to that forbidden Book. Why has God forbidden me from looking into it? What is in that Book that God does not want me to see? Is He afraid that if I find out I will become like Him and throw Him out as unwanted garbage? So let me use my powerful intellect that has so successfully got me to the moon to find out.
For two thousand years now, man has been living with the biggest blunder of his entire existence. He has ignored the example set by those he professes to follow. The Apostles were untrained and illiterate so they couldn't read much less study
the Scriptures. Paul a highly educated man in the Jewish religion was reduced to the intellect of a child within a few seconds, and never studied
or consulted with any man to get his knowledge of God, yet we are accepting his writings today as the Word of God. Why? Jesus was illiterate yet He didn't study
any Scriptures, but got all His knowledge from His Father by being obedient to His will. Why has man suddenly decided that it is necessary for him to probe in forbidden areas by studying
These are the questions that weigh heavily on my mind and need answers and God is providing them for me and commanding that I share them. That is why I am on this site and on this board in the first place, to share all good things with you all. See if you can give me any answers contrary to those that I am receiving.
That's what studying
the Scriptures does. Satan's seed in it concentrates one's mind on areas of the Word of God which are of little import and diverts it from the most important one of rebellion - ITSELF.
It is a ploy in keeping with Satan himself. "For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. It was for this He called you through our gospel, that you may gain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ."
are not deceived and wisely decide to obey
and leave the idea of studying God's Word
alone, respecting what is His sole prerogative. But the many
who are not satisfied continue to disobey
and probe. Thereby challenging His Divine authority and trying to usurp His only begotten Son's sole right to worthiness and the key to unlock what He has commanded to be closed.
"And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy
to open the book and to break its seals?" And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the book or to look into it
Then I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the book or to look into it; and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."
(Rev.5:2-5). Do you know any one with in your vicinity or for that matter anywhere in the world with those credentials, brother, I doubt it very much. Nothing short of Blatant rebellion! ! "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNES."
He is at the door, Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me."
He who has ears to hear,"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock...Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and great was its fall."