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Offline Nancy

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Hidden messages within bible texts
« on: September 25, 2008, 10:12:03 PM »
Hi there all,
 
Ever since I have read the bible, it has frustrated me immensely! I cannot seem to get anything spiritual out of it!!!!
 
Last night, I read 2 Kings 2, and I thought, "What spiritual nourishment did I get out of that reading"?
Subsequently I don't read my bible very much.
 
I had previously printed all the names and numbers in the bible and their meanings, so when I read my bible, I look up what the names and numbers mean and try to work out what 'message' there is behind that particular story.
 
Are you with me so far?!
 
So last night, reading 2 Kings 2, Abner makes Ish- Bosheth (who is 40)  king for 2 years, I get the message, that;
 
The Father of Light (God) takes the man of shame (us) and puts him through trials as a witness. But to whom?
 
Where David rules Judah for 7 and a half years, I get;
 
The well loved of God praises God into spiritual perfection.
 
Where Asahel pursues Abner to kill him, I get,
 
Creature of God (us) pursues Father of light (God) without deviating to the right or to the left and God slays him with grace??????? Abner stabbed Asahel in the 5th rib. Number 5 means grace. That's where I get this message.
 
My question to you all is, am I way off beam with this interpretation or am I finally getting somewhere.  If someone could maybe look up these words I would fully appreciate it.
 
Thanks loads
Godbless
Nancy
 
 

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Re: Hidden messages within bible texts
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 02:36:24 AM »
I know you're searching for approval as you're venturing into uncharted waters for yourself.  The best thing for you is find someone who you "know" walks in these rooms frequently . . .not the chat rooms, but the rooms of the house that Christ has prepared for us.  What you are seeing is not coming from others without, but it's coming from the Spirit of heaven within.  God has elected to illuminate things, to birth things in you that your mind will not be able to reason.  Don't let this deter you, continue in letting it take on a life of it's own and as you grow, the blanks will be filled in your understanding.

Somewhere along this road, you have found an established order that releases revelational things to you.  Whether you did it by accident or on purpose doesn't really matter at this point.  The point is, God is revealing things to you that flesh and blood can not reveal.  The good news here is, there "are" people on these forums that do walk in these rooms also.  The bad news is, there are also many people on these forums that not only don't see, but don't agree with the idea that you're seeing something that is beneath the surface of the words you're reading.  Don't let those people affect your walk at this point. 

Here's the key for you to continue down this road, your mind must always be in submission to your spirit.  These things are spiritual revelations that only God gives.  And they only come through intimate relationship with your spirit and His spirit.  You're mind wants to be a part of it, but it doesn't have the ability to release spirit seeds of truth.  Your mind is the womb where these seeds are being planted and understanding will birth in you from this, in due time.  People will want you to quote a verse or passage to support what you see.  Don't fall into that trap, they're out to trip you up.  God gave you the grace to see what you see, if your mind doesn't understand it yet, just rest in the fact that God is bringing you a new thing to your walk with Him. 

Just know that your weapon of warfare is being transformed into a plowshare and this thing you're seeing is the birthing of a seed planted in you from the Father.  This new thing you are about to birth is going to bring some separation in your circle of friends and family.  Be careful how much you share out.  There are many religious rhino's out there.

A religious rhino . . .that is one who sees a fire and immediately comes to stomp it out.  Rhino's are actually the fire stations of the bush.  Whenever they smell smoke, they instinctively will sniff it out until they find it's source and then they will do everything in their power to put the fire out.  It's a great thing in the natural, not so much in the spiritual.  The time does come when you can be a little more outspoken on revelational matters, but let yourself mature into this for a while before going down that road.

A couple pointers though . . . there are many keys and patterns that do unveil revelational meaning, but it's not like a mathematical equasion.  It's like everything else about God, it takes a large dose of faith.  But yes, you are on to something, there is a wealth of life beneath the surface of the written Word.  It doesn't come by studying or meditation as much as it does by simple relationship.  You just "let" it come out.  If you don't see it, don't force it or make up something, just keep reading until the Spirit flags your spirit on a matter. 

Sometimes, the definition or meaning of names plays a huge role, sometimes not.  Numbers play a big role, colors play a big role, types of metals, gems, even objects (wood, hay, stubble . . .)  Romans 1:20 says God uses natural things to reveal spiritual truths.  Jesus spoke in parables . . the whole Bible can be seen as an innumerable series of parables.  This is what it means to walk in the spirit and not after the flesh.  It doesn't come by natural reasoning. 

Just continue doing what you're doing, let God keep doing what it is he does and it will grow in you all by itself.  That's what seeds do, they take on a life of their own.  The fruit is awesome!!!

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Re: Hidden messages within bible texts
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 04:22:06 AM »
Last night, I read 2 Kings 2, and I thought, "What spiritual nourishment did I get out of that reading"?
I never ask a question like that until I've read a passage at least 5,000 times aloud.  At least 5,000 times.  The Bible is not a book that predominantly and primarily speaks to the intellect.  I think you're confusing your intellect with your spirit.  Reading it only once is barely getting the taste of it on your tongue.  It's not a full meal yet.  The Bible is designed to work with the subconscious, and that's why you have to layer it into you again and again and again.

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Re: Hidden messages within bible texts
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 03:42:07 PM »
I agree with that from a natural reasoning perspective.  Our minds in and of themselves can not grasp the spiritual truth so it takes repetition to absorb things.  But on a spiritual level . . .I can not agree because a spiritual seed is not to be "understood" as much as it is to be "received".  The reason why this is important is because you can dissect the seed all you want, but it's not going to matter because the seed is going to turn into something completely different and the fruit will look nothing like the seed anyway.

This is why I often tell others that it doesn't matter whether you understand it all, because it's not "for" your mind, it's "for" your spirit. . .and your spirit does not have the capacity of birthing, it's purpose is to pass this spirit seed into my submissive mind, when "then" awareness to truth does come.  We're taught that it's a result of much studying . . .that's really not the case.  Peter did no studying, no schooling . .. just a relationship with Christ and it was God who revealed to him who Christ was.  It was God that birthed this revelation into him.  And Jesus even confirmed that by telling him it's not by flesh and blood.

It's great that we have the desire to study God's word . .there's nothing wrong with that.  But that's not the source for revelational truths.  It's just the source for the framework from which revelation can begin to build and flow through us.

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Re: Hidden messages within bible texts
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 12:09:26 AM »
Hi there guys,

Thanks for your input! I know exactly what you mean. I suppose i want to work my way into the kingdom!!!!

Godbless
Nancy