Replying to Nathan post #164
". . . I guess the question is, is there really "a" group of individuals that are "totally" in agreement with "everything" that they each embrace in their relationship with God at all? "Can" there be such a group? "Should" there be such a group?" NathanYep and the group is revealed in Rev.2 and 3 He who OVERCOMERS
"When the earth was created, God didn't create darkness on it, it just "was". Is there darkness in the spirit realm? I would have to say no. Darkness only pertains to the things of the earth. It is the nature of this realm for darkness to flourish. What Scripture "does" state is, God divided light "from" darkness. When light appears. darkness flees. That's the nature of this realm. So . . .if satan is darkness, he can't be in the spirit realm of God. In fact, did Jesus not say he saw satan fall as lightning to the earth for there was NO PLACE FOUND for him in heaven." Nathan
There is much to be found in darkness, and I do not reason that the adversary/satan is darkness.
Psa 139:12 Even darkness, it is not darkening to You, And the night, as the day, is giving light; Darkness is as light."
Isa 45:3 And I give to you treasures of darkness
. And those buried in concealment will I open for you, that you may know that I, Yahweh Elohim, calling you by your name, am the Elohim of Israel."
"It was said that some can see Job plain as day in the literal. Satan can approach God in all his glory where it's all light and no darkness can exist, and he can casually converse with him . . .you would rather have us accept that rather than realize that from Genesis to Revelation it's the same story about the relationship between God and man with Jesus as the centerpiece. There are no other players . . God . . .Adam . . . .and Jesus, the last Adam. Everything else is what goes on "in" that relationship. What goes on "in" man. The story is about how Adam was separated and become bound as a result of his misaligned relationship. And Jesus paying the price for Adam's rebellion so that the relationship between God and Adam could be restored. Satan is what is going on "in" Adam . . .it's all the inner workings of what is going on with in all of us. And how we're all redeemed back to Him." Nathan
I believe that the book of Job is a parable, as I have said before as well, I believe the whole Bible is a parable. Jesus only spoke in parables.
" Satan can approach God in all his glory where it's all light and no darkness can exist, and he can casually converse with him
. " Nathan
Where do you get this stuff?
" There are no other players . . God . . .Adam . . . .and Jesus..." NathanYes a true statement.
There have only been two men in the world... man/adam and Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:19 for as through the disobedience of the one man,
the many were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the on
e, shall the many be constituted righteous.
1Co 15:21 for since through man is the death, also through man is a rising again of the dead,
1Co 15:22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive,
"But when you become distracted by individual pieces of the inner workings, it leads us off the track of where the true emphasis should be. It should never be on the devil, satan or the dragon, serpent, bottomless pit, demons, hell . . . .good grief . .. how easily we derail ourselves from the true message of what God has already accomplished IN us.
"It should never be on the devil, satan or the dragon, serpent, bottomless pit, demons, hell . . . .good grief . ." NathanThen dont bring that stuff up, simple.
" how easily we derail ourselves from the true message of what God has already accomplished IN us" NathanNow just hold that thought and you wills sleep well and not have to give much thought to the other stuff..
...THE TRUE MESSAGE OF WHAT GOD HAS ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED IN US!!!
Now that is the Good News. As Frank Sinatra sang in "New York New York" START SPREADIN THE NEWS!!!!!!!