Still no one will answer my questions.
Is that the carnal mind of man meeting in the council of God with the other sons of God? Maybe the carnal mind of one of Job's enemies? I thought the carnal mind was enmity to God and couldn't follow God's orders, but here Satan is constrained by God. So how does that work?
Is the carnal mind of man one of the sons of God?
Or should we just dismiss Job because it doesn't fit the theory?
Yes, I can see personification and symbolism in all of that...and haven't really given it careful consideration. I really have never looked at Job from this angle, but would like to do so. But, to suggest that we would want to dismiss a book of the Bible because it does't "fit a theory" is insulting. This is the kind of language I caution against.
When our spirit battles the carnal mind...what is that? When temptation hits you and your spirit puts up guard...there is an inward conversation in the temple of the Holy Spirit. Is this not the carnal mind meeting with the council of God? I don't know...but I can certainly see it. As for "following God's orders"...I believe God can put limitations to the destruction he allows in a believers life. I know addiction took me to the brink of death...it left me with very little...no family life...no relationship with God...financial issues...licensing issues...depression...despair...sores...physical ailments. My carnal leadings had destroyed my life. But, from there I cried out to God...and He heard my cries. Do I believe my carnal mind was constrained by God? Yes...I believe he put some limits on the amount of destruction. Did God repair...and even give me more than I had before addiction...oh yes! I can so see the symbolism of this story. I believe using the book of Job to support the notion of a fallen angel satan is like using the parable of the rich man and Lazarus to "prove" there is a hell.
Ok, can you answer the other questions?
Job is the book that convinced me Satan is a REAL spirit being, back in the day when I was trying to figure this stuff out.
So, I would really like to have my questions answered by those who say Satan is the carnal mind.
Like I said, I haven't given this much thought. This is merely me seeing new things in the book of Job I had never seen before. It makes sense with what has been revealed to me through relationship. What exactly is your question...whether the carnal mind is one of the sons of God? List your questions clearly and in order supported by Scripture and lets see if we can discuss them with some mutual respect and love.
Well, we are given a very specific story in Job, and a glimpse into heavenly activities going on behind the scenes.
Right now my question concerns the description of the sons of God meeting with God and Satan is among them. And, Satan asks permission to go after Job.
So--how do you substitute the carnal mind into that description and make any sense out of it?
I see that as an actual description of something that is really happening. But, if you want to make it metaphor or whatever, how do you do that?
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?