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10  REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD  is VALID.

The Bottom Line folks, is that the RULES have CHANGED – there is an OLD covenant and a NEW covenant and those in church leadership today are mixing
both covenants together.
Basically the leadership is sleepy, resulting in the entire body to be in deep sleep. Remember the (10 virgins) they all slept.
The mixing of the two covenants is like the image of clay and iron. When a shaking happens - it will result in a crumbling.

Now for some better news.

There is another wonderful 'stage of life' - that is being revealed to mankind and the curtain is now being pulled back.
I believe God is opening a new vista to those who are outside of the religious box.  He is looking for free thinkers, someone who when given a vision will follow it,
and doesn't allow any fear of man to hinder him and willing to prophecy a fresh word of the Lord to whomever.
They will obey, not fearing any consequences which may result, but rather weighed down with a sense of their own unworthiness on the mission to which God
has called them.

I believe that God is beginning to now reveal the spirit world / realm – [the sphere - that all folks go when they die] - to earthlings, to whosoever will – whoever
has eyes to see and an ear to hear.  This after-life is so inexpressibly different than our present expectation.
 
This will definitely involve further revelation from God – more than what has been revealed in the written word which we call the Bible.  When the O.T. was written,
the Jews thought that was it…that was all that God had for man to know. 
But, then along came another covenant – called the N.T. which the Jewish community completely rejected because it was not the standard that they had recognized
 as the only truth.
 
I believe that we are at the threshold of another influx of revelatory information -  that is very necessary for mankind in these end days.
The problem is…obviously, most of Christendom may reject it, especially from the headquarter of most all denominations. 
They will pass along solemn edicts that all their follows - not read, believe, teach anything other than what has already been established by those of the cloth.
They think that if God would ever reveal anything new - it would have to come through their headquarters first.
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On 1.1.11 this year, God opened my eyes to the realm of the spirit…(i.e.) that area where all mankind goes when they die. I wasn't looking for it…I didn't ask for it…
He just did it.
 
I am convinced that earth people can have…even should have inter-communion with those in the spirit realm. This is other that the customary communication this is
with God our Father, the Holy Spirit and the Lord Jesus Christ.
What I mean is…and I want to make this very clear…that the N.T. saints may and even should have communication with those in the spirit world/realm,
i.e. (men/women and angels).

This is a N.T. Biblical concept - and I'll try and show this in the next following 10 points.



POINT #1
THE LEVITICAL law about  PROHIBITION of SPIRIT WORLD COMMUNICATION - is a DEAD letter.

Right away, the corner church says, "WHOA there partner, you are talking to the dead…and the O.T. law condemns those who talk to the dead – and the
punishment is stoning."


An O.T. commandment:
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard [NKJV: a medium], shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them
with stones…(Lev 20:27)
Another O.T. commandment:
Turn ye not unto them that have familiar spirits, nor unto the wizards; seek them not out, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.(Lev 19:31)


There were 613 O.T. laws.
It's worth looking over all these laws at least once in your life. Because trying to follow all those 613 laws is like have a constant diet of peanut butter and crackers. 
Without the SPIRIT the letter is dead. (2 Cor 3:6)

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

 How many of these laws do you keep? And if you keep even one - may I ask… why?
 
If someone is going to hold another person to these laws and then condemn them for violating - even one of them…then that person… better be following all these
613 O.T. laws to a 'T' themselves.

The truth is…the RULES have CHANGED, the N.T. saints are NOT required or expected to keep even one O.T. law…period.
All those Leviticus laws were for a particular people - for a specified period of time.
As difficult as it will be…we must DISCARD the old covenant laws from our daily belief structure.
Our so-called spiritual leaders of the church today – they have formed their doctrines by picking and choosing of the 613 O.T. law as it suits them.
Sabbath Day… Clean and Unclean foods…Tithing…Clothing to wear…Prohibition of contact with men of the spirit world…Ceremonial prayers before eating… …etc.



Point #2
COMPLETE OPPOSITE:

Tomorrow there could be something in this world from the Holy Spirit that has never been known by human minds on this plane before.
Or the Holy Spirit could do something that is the complete opposite to anything known about so far.
God can and will do the very opposite in one age (N.T.) then He did in the previous age (O.T.).

JESUS spoke to (2) dead guys.…wouldn't that be considered communicating with a FAMILIAR SPIRITS?
Jesus took (3) disciple up a mountain and guess what he did….yup…he talked to dead men.  He talked to Moses and Elijah. And there were (3 disciples) as witnesses
against him.
Have you ever wondered why Jesus told the disciples – to not tell anyone

According to O.T. law - he could have been stoned…for communicating as a familiar spirit with familiar spirits.

Let's also remember Jesus exhorted his disciples to FOLLOW HIM. 
The saints are to continue to do what he did. 
 'The works that I do, ye shall do also,'..............surely that would include talking with the dead.
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am
going to the Father.(John 14:12-13)

Jesus said, "Come and follow me…"(John 4:19)
Jesus who was "the Way, the Truth, and the Life" with matchless skill and Godlike force he pointed out the application,
"Go thou and do likewise!"

If Jesus - communicated with the dead…and we are to 'follow him'…and 'do the works that he did'…then why shouldn't the saints today do likewise?



Point #3
JESUS also DECREED  the very OPPOSITE:

Many folks strongly propose - that God would not abolish the O.T. Law… or change his mind once He makes a proclamation.
HOWEVER:
Even though the O.T. law prohibits a Jew from eating common or unclean foods, iIn Acts, God gave Peter a vision and told him to kill and eat that which was common and unclean….contrary to O.T. law.

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven. (Acts 10:11-16)


And then - lest we forget the Nineveh incident…God did the opposite of what He said he was going to do.

And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. (Jonah 3:10)



Point #4
THE SAINTS OF GOD TODAY – are to TEST... to DISCERN THE SPIRITS – NOT IGNORE or REJECT:

We are exhorted in the N.T. to "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."( 1 Jn. 4:1)
'try the spirits.'
This is not an admonishment, to ignore or immediately reject any and all communication to and from the spirit world/realm. But rather to exercise the God given gift of the Spirit – called the 'discerning of spirits'

 I've recently asked numerous religious, Pentecostal, Spirit filled, Glossolalia, Tongue talking church people,... and almost every one state that the leadership at their church have quenched the moving of the Spirit so much so -- that the gifts of the Spirit, prophecy, tongues and interpretation and the discerning of spirit… are nearly non-existence. 

If Jesus would have followed the normal religious view that is proclaimed today…he never would have spoken to Moses and Elijah….who were dead folk…familiar spirits.

The Gift of Discerning of Spirits is one of the 9 Gifts of The Holy Spirit listed in 1 Cor. 12.
Discerning of Spirits is a Good Gift & is to be received.

And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. (Luke 11:9-13)

If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? 

Anytime an individual experiences a Holy Spirit induced inward vision, open vision, trance or dream or etc, in which the Spirit realm is looked into, the Discerning of Spirits is in operation.
It's the God given supernatural insight into the Spirit world

Discernment is the ability to evaluate something. The Greek term here literally means "to judge through." The gift of the discernment of spirits was the ability to "judge through" or evaluate prophecies, teachings, and/or people, distinguishing the false from the true. In that day, you remember, God spoke to the church through men such as the prophets.

This gift (as noted in the previous chapter) served as a check on those who would abuse that and give words and teachings which were not God-sent (e.g., I Corinthians 12:3, where someone evidently taught that Jesus was accursed).
This person with the gift of the discernment of spirits could declare the true nature of such a prophecy and affirm the truth of the genuine. They sometimes hear in the Spirit Realm. They may even  taste, touch, & smell things as The Holy Spirit wills.

When this Gift is in operation a person may see: The Holy Spirit, A Human Spirit, An Evil Spirit, Jesus, Angels.  They may see a quick picture, A Mini Vision,  A dream, A regular vision  or even have a full fledged interactive open vision where your body is fully involved & you can speak back & forth.

Those gifted will have the ability to See, Hear & potentially Touch, Taste & Smell in the realm of the Spirit World (includes) The Holy Spirit, Holy Angels, Darkened Spirits &  Human Spirits.

These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. (1 Cor. 10::11)
 Delving into the Spirit world (Realm) in any other way except through the Free, Safe,  God  given & Holy Spirit administered Gift of The Discerning of Spirits can be perilous!

Using or giving yourself over to or participating in occult activities including Ouija boards, Planchettes, Séances, Channeling, Astral Projection etc. may results in a spiritual bondage to spirits of darkness.
The way to get free from them - is through repentance in Christ & Spiritual Intervention!

"Discerning of spirits enables believers to distinguish---by means of a spiritual insight---the motivating spirit behind certain words or deeds, be it human, demonic or divine."

The Discerning of Spirits is a Supernatural revelation from the Spirit of God, which opens one's eyes to the activities of the Spirit realm.  Through the operation of this Gift one can see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the similitude of God, Angels, Satan, demons and any other spirit beings, objects or spiritual activities.  This Gift also enables the possessor to discern the power, good or evil, which prompts certain behaviors in other living beings.  (Mark 8:33; John 1:47; 6:70)



Point #5
THE SAINTS OF GOD – are expected to COME TO ANGELS … along with THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT:

What is the expectations today for a N.T. saint of God?
The saints of God are to be in intercommunication with 'angels' and the 'saints gone on before them'.

22But you are come to mount Sion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect (Heb 12:22-23)

This is NOT a future happening.
We 'are' to come to(present tense)…not someday 'will' come to angels and to the spirits of just men made perfect.

Angelic visitors - should be a normal occurrence

One person wrote:
Then as the months went on shadowy forms from the invisible began to make their appearance, which presently and gradually increased in density until I became
able to touch, handle and speak to them, and the whisper of musical voices was heard in reply;
still the development went on,
until now for years past they have assumed such solid shape as to be able to use my books and sit with me for hours in the full light of day!
"I spend
two or three hours every day in the companionship of these visitors."


This is not saying any more than James, John and Peter might have told their companions after coming down from the Mount of Transfiguration.

Dear reader of this study
…think for a moment…how were the early Scriptures both O.T. and N.T. made know to men?
God, who at many times and in various manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets. (Heb 1:1)
Was it a thought planted in the mind?
Was it a conversation?
Was it automatic hand writing?
Was it angels or deceased righteous men?
What were the Urim and Thummim? And how did that thing work?

It appears that intercommunication with 'angels' who were 'the spirits of just men' - should be accepted as the norm. 

But if a believer today doesn't have Godly discernment....then, they will say
as (Ramsey from Hell's Kitchen) says, "Shut Er Down"!  
That is the common catch phrase which is normally taught at most corner churches.
 
Other common objections that I've run into are:
"My conscience does not quite agree with this intrusion - upon the realm of the sacred dead."
Also:
"I am too busy with my ministry, and I have no thoughts on any studies - dealing with world of spirits."
And others say:
"This kind of intercommunication with the spirit world - is simply the work of the Devil."
And finally:
This whole thing is believed and taught to be a device of wicked and malicious spirits to deceive the unwary."
"Pretty soon, everybody will get what they deserve, which is ..."Salvation"..."Reconciliation"..."Restitution"..."Restoration"..."Immortality"... and "Incorruption" --- now ain't that the coolest thing?

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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 04:13:36 AM »
Point #6
A DISTINCTION should be drawn between the TRUE and the FALSE COMMUNICATION

Here is one of many ways to TEST…what the WORD OF THE LORD is.

In the Old Testament, when God first promised a prophet, He very carefully laid down a rule by which the true man should be known from the pretender.

 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. ( Deut 18:21-22)


When Jesus confirms this…He is allowing the test, not prohibiting it when he says: 'By their fruits ye shall know them.'
Like every other gift of God, this requires most careful development and education before it can become totally reliable in its operation.

I personally know some who are quite happy with Spirit Communication - while other Christian believers that I know…say it is the work of the Devil.

Who can imagine what the effect would be if the world was to awake some morning with a clear understanding and comprehension of the declaration of Isaiah - "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord"?
What an unimaginable society would suddenly be experienced!



Point #7
During the O.T. the VEIL was a DIVIDING between the PEOPLE and the HOLY PLACE.

And thou shalt hang up the veil…. and the veil shall divide unto you between the holy place and the most holy.(Exd 26:33)

During the O.T. dispensation…the veil was a dividing, between the people and the Holy…and because the 'gift of discernment' apparently wasn't yet accessible … a Levitical law of probation of communication to the spirit world was established.

During the N.T. the veil was torn from top to bottom…revealing that mankind now has access to the most Holy.

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.(Matt 27:51)
This verse is showing completely OPPOSITE perceptive that God now has ordained for the N.T. dispensation, - than from the previous O.T. depiction.
Unlike the O.T. which does forbid speaking with the dead…there is not one verse in the N.T. Scriptures that forbids having inter-communication with those in the spirit world.




Point #8
INTERCOMMUNICATION –should be warmly accepted – FOR THE SAINTS OF GOD to have ENCOUNTERS with ANGELS.

It was common for the N.T. saints – to experience encounters with angels who provided miracles along with information and messages.
Further it should be expected for men and women today - to have spirit world experiences, such as Paul the apostle did.
Example:
--Mary(conception)(at the tomb)--Joseph(told to marry Mary)--Zachariah(call his son John)--Peter and Silas(released from jail)--Paul( )--John(angel meeting in book of Rev. )

I am a 1000% convinced - that the saints of God on earth, can have communication with any of their loved ones who have gone on before them.
But, if we believe -  what we have always been told…to NOT have intercommunication –  then we either won't try or have the faith to believe it when it does happen.
We have been told (by all denominational headquarters) to not accept or at the minimum highly question - any so-called spiritual experience that folks might have in or from the spirit world.

Thus:
If we do not believe it can or will happen or should happen…guess what…we'll probably never be receptive to any intercommunication with the spirit world.

Spirit beings are real; they though they are invisible to human eyes, because they have not flesh and blood.  Rarely, may we gaze upon the visible manifestation of a spirits divinity.

Further:
By what authority or by who's credence does Isaiah or Jeremiah writings - become distinguished as Holy Scriptures?
Some person/persons made that decision.  God did not write in the sky - who was inspired and who was not.
So, why is it so impossible for God to reveal even further revelation or disclose something new by others of His servants today?
We today, are no holier or unholier than any of these ancient men of God were.




Point #9
FURTHER REVELATION from GOD -  will be REVEALED in the LAST DAYS.

Jesus doesn't always come Himself…He uses angels.

'Holy Angels' are humans - that have died and their souls/ spirits, and after a specific time, they progressed in maturity and love – they are then trusted to have them come BACK  as (souls/spirits) to minister to the Saints of God.

Likewise - as well, certain 'evil spirits' – they are unholy humans that died… and are presently awaiting deliverance in the spirit world…..but some are allowed to come BACK as (souls/spirits) to the earth plane to be a tempter for earthly mankind.

The big question is:
Does the scriptures….anywhere speak of God's angels, who are ( fellow mankind) …that have been given opportunity to come BACK to minister to men?
The answer is absolutely… YES!

An angel came to John…and he identified himself as
(a) a fellowservant,
(b) of the brethren of the prophets,
(c) your brothers and sisters
(d) done of those who kept the sayings of God.

Rev 22:8-9 –
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
 and...
Rev 19:9-10
 9 Then the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!" And he added, "These are the true words of God."
 10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus."

 
Some have warned:  "No man is to be between us and the Lord."
 True…but Jesus doesn't always come himself….but sends angels to testify unto the churches.

Rev 22:6 -
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Again – Jesus Christ sends his angels to the churches:
Rev 2:1- and following:
"the angel of the church in Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira ,  Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea, and etc,:
 


I would just like to add:
 that Jesus said "the reapers are the angels" and He sent His disciples "to reap".
Paul speaks of being received "as an angel of God".
Gal 4:14 - … you despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
 
Lazarth and rich man – not everyone will believe if someone comes back from the dead.

The following is a piece of a parable taught from our Lord. 
If it were not possible for a dead person to return to earth... and instruct those still living on earth…for the benefit of the hearer, then why would Christ even bring it up at all?

Luke 16:30-31
And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said to him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


It is my (understanding/interpretation) of the above verses that 'the rich man or his brothers' were walking in darkness and none were in a position to hear any message that may be given by Lazarus…even if he came back from the dead.

Does that mean that  - no one is in a position to hear anyone who came back from the DEAD?
...No.

Our Lord came back from the dead….some responded positively and believed and some negatively.
In John 11 – we read of another Lazarus being raised from the dead, some believed…and then  in  John 12:9-11 others wanted to kill him.
 
Till the time of the End.
One should also realize that not all of God's truth, plan, and purpose have been revealed yet….through the written word.

Case in Point:
Daniel 9:24 -
"Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
Daniel 12:9 –
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
And
Rev 10:4 –
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.


There is revelation / understanding - that is yet to be revealed. 
And how is God going to reveal this info?
Yup…by angels….who were previously men - that had lived before on the earth.

There are many errors that need to be corrected.
Unfortunately, preachers and teacher today who have God all packed away - in a pretty little box are not in a position to receive anything new.

It is just as much ERROR to believe 'that all things will be perfect for you' the moment after  you die and enter into the spirit world….as the ERROR that God is going to eternally torment certain folks who didn't say some so-called magical words, such as 'Jesus forgive me of my sins' before they die.




POINT #10 – I am saving the best for last.
PERSONAL COMMUNICATION – to and from the SPIRIT WORLD.

"He who has an experience, cannot be at the mercy of him who only has an argument."

If you ask 10 friends around you…most likely some of them will have experiences or stories of  someone communicating with those who have gone on before.

My example:
A couple months ago, I felt strongly impressed to go visit my 95 year old neighbor. When I could no longer resist the urge, I went over to visit him.  As I went into the house, the man's wife expressed great joy saying, "I've been praying that you would come."
She went on to relate that Fred, her husband, had spent all afternoon visiting with his sister Ruth, and brother Eddie or had died prior.

She said she sat and watched and listened as Fred would turn from Ruth who stood at the foot of his bed and Eddie sat at the foot of the bed.
She knew without a doubt who it was and what was going on for over 3 hours.
She didn't relate any of the conversation, nor would I have asked, as that was personal.

I talked with Fred for a while and let him know that he had permission to go…and we all would be following soon after.
I prayed with him and glory of God filled the room…such as I haven't experienced in a while.

I believe experience like this will become greater and greater if we can receive them.
I've recently shared the above experience with other fellow believers…they wouldn't comment, lowered their heads and walked away unbelieving.
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Last February, I also had an incredible personal experience with David Livingston, the missionary to Africa. 
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 I am like a man looking through the mist of earth and across a land (the spirit world) beyond which glorious freedom lie.
The bars of doubt are broken and I gain my freedom, I then long to shout the news to those who follow, that they may also find their way to the liberty I have gain.

Only my longing to render a needed service to my fellow pilgrims. I try to do my best - and fail to make myself as clearly understood as I would like to be.
Others will come after me, and they may leave a clearer marked path by which the desired end may afterwards be attained.

It was like the breaking of a seal and opening of the volume of the revelation of a life such as Paul speaks of - when he says: "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him" (1 Cor. 2:9).
It only sounds incredible - because we have lost the evidences of this vital part of communication, mainly because of false teaching from church leaders who wanted to remain in control of spiritual insight.

The door has been open…the curtain has been drawn back…there were 12 disciples in the boat and only one stepped out.
Keep listen for the Master, walk on waters unknown, keep your eye on the Master, you don't have to sink and you'll be in for the experience of your life.

I can't wait to hear of your experience.
Peace, AJ

Ps. Yes you may copy any or all of this.
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"Pretty soon, everybody will get what they deserve, which is ..."Salvation"..."Reconciliation"..."Restitution"..."Restoration"..."Immortality"... and "Incorruption" --- now ain't that the coolest thing?

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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 03:58:56 PM »
 :cloud9: Again, I am not saying that it is not possible, I'm only saying the LORD must be LORD of the harvest.

I've heard angels, and a relative, been used with others present (who also saw/heard the same things) to intercede for groups of peoples (that had passed on previously), and was taken by His Spirit, in the spirit, while fully awake (with 4 witnesses), to witness His deliverance of someone whose soul was trapped in what they did not overcome while still in the body.

BUT none of it did we iniate ourselves, and that is the substance of my warning to anyone out there that might try to walk in places they are not called to by HIM. Blessings...
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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 02:04:15 PM »
 :cloud9: And again, a word of warning. I read one of the articles someone wrote, that's on your site, AJ. Any spirit talking about reincarnation I know for a FACT, is NOT the Lord's Spirit, and the spirit is not divided. If the spirit is not exalting the risen Lord Jesus Christ, it's not His Spirit. There is Spirit and there is spirit, and it's not that hard to tell which is which, if you test them the way the Lord intended.

On the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost it was said, extolled the works of the Lord. The principle is, the spirit always exalts the one who sent it. Apply that to anything, and it will quickly separate the chaff from the wheat. Blessings...
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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 11:08:22 PM »
Well, I'm shocked! What the heck happened with this "inter-communication" of the witch, Saul, and Samuel? :dontknow:

I remember when Saul, Samuel, and the witch were expressed in earlier and other posts, as authentic. Or is that not now "inter-communication with the spirit world?" :sigh:
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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 08:23:59 PM »
:cloud9: And again, a word of warning. I read one of the articles someone wrote, that's on your site, AJ. Any spirit talking about reincarnation I know for a FACT, is NOT the Lord's Spirit, and the spirit is not divided. If the spirit is not exalting the risen Lord Jesus Christ, it's not His Spirit. There is Spirit and there is spirit, and it's not that hard to tell which is which, if you test them the way the Lord intended.

On the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost it was said, extolled the works of the Lord. The principle is, the spirit always exalts the one who sent it. Apply that to anything, and it will quickly separate the chaff from the wheat. Blessings...

I don't quite follow your logic. Do you mean the doctrine of reincarnation as held by Buddism?

Or are you against the idea of a spirit e.g Elijah appearing more than once?


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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 04:01:02 PM »
Well, I'm shocked! What the heck happened with this "inter-communication" of the witch, Saul, and Samuel? :dontknow:

I remember when Saul, Samuel, and the witch were expressed in earlier and other posts, as authentic. Or is that not now "inter-communication with the spirit world?" :sigh:

 :cloud9: Again, the LORD is the Lord of the harvest. Him initiating contact is the "rapture"; man initiating it, is necromancy.  :winkgrin:
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Re: 10 REASONS why INTER-COMMUNICATION with the SPIRIT WORLD is VALID
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 04:01:51 PM »
:cloud9: And again, a word of warning. I read one of the articles someone wrote, that's on your site, AJ. Any spirit talking about reincarnation I know for a FACT, is NOT the Lord's Spirit, and the spirit is not divided. If the spirit is not exalting the risen Lord Jesus Christ, it's not His Spirit. There is Spirit and there is spirit, and it's not that hard to tell which is which, if you test them the way the Lord intended.

On the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost it was said, extolled the works of the Lord. The principle is, the spirit always exalts the one who sent it. Apply that to anything, and it will quickly separate the chaff from the wheat. Blessings...

I don't quite follow your logic. Do you mean the doctrine of reincarnation as held by Buddism?

Or are you against the idea of a spirit e.g Elijah appearing more than once?

 :cloud9: Sorry; should have been more specific. My reference was to an article on his site mentioning reincarnation. All these supposed "ascended masters" that are channeling demons eventually get around to trying to gain acceptance and belief for reincarnation, even suggesting Jesus was the 33rd incarnation of Adam (no kidding, I read that once), and other such foolishness. The reason is, among others, reincarnation is a works based doctrine that makes grace unnecessary. My
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"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor