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Who is the Enemy? Heresy or the Heretic?

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studier:
Just some more discussion material from my blog on MyChurch.org
http://www.mychurch.org/blog/97639/the-enemy-heresy-or-the-heretic

Please indulge me for a moment. I will not go into what is heresy or even orthodoxy. Let us assume for a moment, we know exactly what doctrines and beliefs are heresy and which ones are orthodoxy. Now with that assumption in place, who is the enemy? The Heresy or the Heretic?

There are people who hold on to doctrines contrary to what we believe, they promote these doctrines because they believe in them. I find that many of them are sincere in their devotion to Jesus Christ and through Him, God the Father. Though they carry with them that heresy. It is from my experience that those who hold the lie of heresy may not actually know they do, and I believe God keeps this in mind concerning his judgments.

Proverbs 24:12
If you say, "But we knew nothing about this," does not He who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not He who guards your life know it? Will He not repay each person according to what he has done?

Just because knowledge presented, does not mean it is automatically known. To have understanding, a person goes through a process. Even if I presented a well researched subject presenting a person with a knowledge they never knew, and they accept it as being true because they percieved my knowledge was well informed and displayed, they still do not know anything about that subject. In order to know something, a person needs to understand the knowledge that is being presented to them. If they do not know, they still can share that knowledge without understanding, and insist on it's truth without even knowing if it is true. It happens all the time, and if you are in any discussions, debates, forums or conversations with strangers and friends, you can see it in action. The reality is they still don't know it and though they believe the committed due diligence is understanding it, there is a possibility even after spending years under this knowledge investigating it, they still don't know.

It is easy to rebuke a person and condemn a person for not knowing. It is easy to call them stupid, or a heretic and have nothing to do with them further, condemning them even to the lowest of hells sometimes. I know, I have been there. We make the people who heard but did not understand, the enemy. Though is it the person who holds the heresy, the heretic, the enemy or is the heresy itself the enemy that has blinded that person?

As some famous early church fathers and teachers have been repeatedly quoted. If man truly knew what they were doing was seperating themselves from God, they would never do it. In otherwords, Scripture says is the thoughts and arguements that are contrary to the truth which cloud the truth, is the enemy.

Ephesians 6:12
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 

Romans 1:18
For God's wrath is revealed from heaven against all godlessness and unrighteousness of people who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

2 Corinthians 10:3-5
For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Beware the temptation to make man the enemy when you are confronted with a knowledge that opposes the truth. This is the snare of the devil, there is more to the knowledge of truth than just doctrine, dogma and theology.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Beware the temptation to think just because you have knowledge, that you completely understand it before waging the war against heresy. That too is a snare of the devil, who would want you to take his word for it, just as he decieved woman in the garden. Be a good Steward of the Word.

2 Timothy 2:13-15
Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

I believe that once we get over the hurdle that those who are ignorant to the knowledge of the truth despite being presented the knowledge of the truth, is not the enemy and we begin to deal with each argument, thought, pretension, knowledge that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, then we will recognize the divine power to demolish the stronghold that heresy holds over a man and we can take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

2 Timothy 2:24-26
And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

When that happens, a beautiful thing occurrs. People let go of the heresy, and they too become obedient to Christ. We realize that they were never the enemy but was a Child of the Living God who was brought out of the darkness and into the light.

1 Timothy 2:3-6
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

Reverend G:
There is no "enemy".  If there is, then love him!!  God does.  However, the true believer will carry the message, and endeavor to live life as He willed us to do, as a living example.  Judgement is His right, not ours.  Christ was the final sacrifice, so that we may all be spared for our sins. And "all" means "all".  We are told to love our enemies, and help the least of our brothers, doesn't He?  The sinners, the unbelievers, can you not see them as the "least" of us?  Or to you, the "enemy"?  And should not they be loved, as He loves them?

studier:
Thank-you Reverend G, for brining up the fact, that if you have enemies, love them. Did you read the article? Did you understand the Heretic is not your enemy? That it is the lie from the very beginning? Even if they come at you with sticks and torches, they are not your enemy.

Reverend G:
I read the article, of course we still differ on the one point.  Not an important issue to me, more so to you.  In the end it all boils down to picking and choosing over scripture, and interpretation.  So how can one call the other "heretic"?  If my example encourages others to Christ, so much the better.  If not, they are not lost.  Even if He called them enemies, he would love them, cleanse them, and invite them into his home.

studier:

--- Quote from: Reverend G on November 19, 2007, 07:18:14 PM ---I read the article, of course we still differ on the one point.  Not an important issue to me, more so to you.  In the end it all boils down to picking and choosing over scripture, and interpretation.  So how can one call the other "heretic"?  If my example encourages others to Christ, so much the better.  If not, they are not lost.  Even if He called them enemies, he would love them, cleanse them, and invite them into his home.

--- End quote ---

Yes, any man who is your enemy, you love them. Thanks for your point of view. I do not disagree.

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