i dont believe in any kind of hell, but donīt you think there might be very severe punishment:
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
I think the judgment of God is misplaced in personal fear. Have you noticed the scenarios that seriously change the outcome of someones actions in movies.
You have the hero of a movie strong and defiant willing to allow the villan to do anything he wishes and even dares him to and the hero will never sway.
Then the villan moves over to the pretty damsel in distress and hold the gun to her head and the decision to be made is seen in a whole different light.
Of course, I see this example in trying to convey a message about Gods judgment could go the wrong way in a hurry, but my point mainly is this.
As we live our individual lives, we often really see the out comes of the perversion of religion. Religion has made things about us individually and personally to the point that the only thing that might make us wake up to God is the fear of the possibility of eternity in torment.
Universalism, perhaps unintentionally has remained in bondage to this personal outlook of judgment and almost rendered it impotent. While universalism allws personal freedoms ,. indeed, if God isn't really going to be all that hard on us, then we can and DO seem to live our lives a bit in glee and contentment that WE are ok.
I think the manner and speed in which we become perfect is the manner in which we selflessly love others.
Not that I can stand and say I do well enough, but perhaps figuratively to get anywhere in this walk we must not seek out this personal redemption, but seek it for someone else at the expense of ourselves.
Adam did, Adam died to himself, even though the story of adama and eve is "said" to be about the fall. I think there was no fall and that the picture we are told about is flawed.
We hear this in church and religious circles and i suppose it is used to somehow relate to what Jesus did, but the words are clear.
No greater love there is than to lay ones life down for a friend. Now, why doesn;t it say to lay ones life down for God or Christ?
I believe there is truth in many things, I think the real message is not Gods judgment on our own self to the degree we are taught, maybe that long path of destruction has far greater ramifications than one might think.
Perhaps rather than some torturous hell or judgment spanking by God that we get the picture of, perhaps we all have to repeat this kind of miserable physical existance we are in till we understand that Adam did not (FALL).
Perhaps Adam so loved Eve that he believed that we was beyond redemption through his love for her and maybe even died in the state of believing that if he loved his friend then any outcome was worthwhile. Imagine dying thinking that only to awake realizing that god made it right, even when we thought all hope was lost.
Jesus died saying "God why hast thougjh forsaken me" the son of God, the man who had the plan, then selfless savior, died believing his own father didn't care.
Did Jesus really die in this bliss of contentment, or did he fealfully fall into the hands of the living God?
Adam, He got it spot on.