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The Hell Thread

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sven:
I see it this way:

Sheol/Hades, the realm of souls both good and evil (I'm convinced of soulsleep)
Gehenna, the valley of Hinnom, symbolic threat of a shamefull death
Tartarus (also Abyssos), prison of angelic beings
the lake of fire = second death, here ones can speculate what second death is

marie glen:
Psalm 21:8, 9 - "Your hand will find out all your enemies; your right hand will find out all who hate you. You will make them as a fiery furnace when-you-appear. The LORD will swallow them up in his wrath, and fire will consume them."

God does not appear until after the second resurrection and judgment day is over.

Where does it say the Book of Life is closed to the adding of any more names before the second resurrection, and closed all during the long 'day' of judgment (the long day of the examination of all things when "all the books will be opened" and "not one thing shall remain hidden that shall not be uncovered")?

The LORD's appearing - Revelation 21:1-5. The above reference is from the New Revised Standard Version, but the Young's Literal is interesting too..
 
YLT - Psalm 21:8,9 - "Thy hand cometh to all Thine enemies, Thy right hand doth find Thy haters. Thou makest them as a furnace of fire, At the time of Thy presence. Jehovah in His anger doth swallow them, And fire doth devour them."

 --- Anyone not born again at His (Jehovah/YHWH/ the LORD's)  appearing will be consumed "our God is a consuming fire" -  it's His substance.. But! His appearing is not until after the second resurrection and day of judgment.

YLT - Revelation 21

 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more;

 2and I, John, saw the holy city -- new Jerusalem -- coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband;

 3and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, `Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them -- their God,

 4and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.'

 5And He who is sitting upon the throne said, `Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, `Write, because these words are true and stedfast;' 

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