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Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« on: January 04, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »
Happy New Year all. Earlier I saw that William Tapley has a new video out which predicts that Russia will nuke America and Great Brittan this year and uses various Bible Passages to make his case. The link for it is below. I would like to know all of your thoughts on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxhUTyrOWYo

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 03:07:41 AM »
Jeremiah 31;29...in those days people will no longer say..'The father's have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set

  on edge". Instead ,everyone will [spiritually]die for his own sin[missing the mark]  whoever eats sour grapes his own teeth

  will be set on edge.

   The time is coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel...................v 33 I will put my law in their minds

   and write it on their hearts .I will be their God. No longer will a man teach his neighbor,or a man his brother,saying...

    'know the Lord" because.......THEY WILL ALL KNOW ME...from the least of them to the greatest." declares the Lord......

    FOR I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS....AND REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 04:19:38 AM »
 God saves us from the third eagle of the apocalypse.
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 04:30:46 AM »
God saves us from the third eagle of the apocalypse.

 :Yesss:  Yes He sure does. So do not get your beads (rosaries) just yet.  This guy must be an apostate Catholic or something.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 04:35:05 AM »
I always take these prophecies that come out in early January with a massive pinch of salt and heavy doses of skepticism. Every year rolls around, and each January we are supposed to believe that the Holy Spirit is sending out a bulletin on upcoming world events for the year? Every year we hear that "THIS is the year that x, y or z is going to happen!"...and it never does. I well remember in January 2006 sitting with a group of precious believers, who all had a word to get excited about for the coming year...evidently 2006 was going to be the year where God sent us forth to do this and that, brought us into the blessing we had been seeking, and so forth. And...here we are nine years on.

The biggest problem of all is that so many of these self appointed prophets break down Revelation purely from a 'world events' viewpoint', without any reference to how this unveils, reveals or discloses Jesus Christ. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, and if someone has their 'prophetic' eyes on Russia, America, Putin, Obama or Willy Wonka, the only thing it tells me is that their focus is NOT on Christ and His kingdom. The fact this man gives himself such fantastical titles such as the 'Third Eagle', completes the picture.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 06:01:25 AM »
I agree. Also, in John's apocalypse there is as much imagery representing the emergence of the body of Christ under the headship of Jesus as there is anything else, and I wonder why there never seems to be much excitement about that prospect, when(as i see it anyway) it is the key to the aionian plan of God in this age and the next.

The whole creation anxiously awaits the revelation of the sons of God. The Bride is coming down out of the heavens. A giant messenger clothed in the cloud and his head in the heavens having the eternal gospel of god in his hand.  A woman standing on the moon clothed in the sun.

Why not prophecy about these things rather than trying to figure out if the locusts of Abaddon are helicopters shooting nuclear missiles lol.

Well, I'll tell you why. These prophets have little or no stake in the body of Christ and the revelation of the children of God. Their stake is in their own glory, and at 25.00 plus 7.00 shipping (for Dubuman's tape featured by the 3rd eagle), I'd say there may be a "profit" or two in thee end times prophecies.
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 09:06:32 AM »
Amen Eaglesway! It all comes down to where the heart is focused, and out of the abundance of their hearts these false prophets' mouths speak anything but Christ.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 07:38:16 PM »
31"Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

44"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

For me I'm tired of doom and gloom. It's time to look past all that and see the wonderful future ahead as this rock fills the whole earth.


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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 10:08:01 PM »
Is it a sin to want to predict future events ?

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 10:39:03 PM »
I could not honestly say, but if predictions of the future are conjured up in the carnal mind, then perhaps the mark was missed. :2c: Besides if/should it not be from the Lord, what kind of future is one predicting? :2c:
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 11:06:02 PM »
Is it a sin to want to predict future events ?

I think this scripture answers it quite well:

Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?"  7 And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me[a] in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." (Acts 1:6-8)

It is interesting how quickly and completely Jesus takes the focus away from timing, and places the emphasis onto what their holy empowerment and calling is to be instead.

I think the problem with seeking times and seasons is that the focus is off the present reality of Jesus Christ, and the increase of His kingdom within us. Hypothetically, if God DID let us know exact times and dates, it would be so easy to put our faith in knowing 'the schedule', instead of a moment by moment trusting in Him.

For me, the tree is known by it's fruit, and the fruit I see with date setters and world events gurus is a laser sharp focus on the world and it's affairs, but a lack of focus on Christ and His kingdom.
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 11:18:03 PM »
 :iagree: :iagree:
Well said.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 09:44:15 AM »
An Open Letter To The Prophets of Doom- from Eaglesway

Your deadlines have all come and past
Will the prophet of doom repent at last?
I would not touch the Lord's anointed
I just don't see you so appointed

I know that God is judging sin
But we go forth weeping
Then come back in
Carrying our sheaves rejoicing

To edify is our great calling
Even if the sky IS falling

Come trial or persecution
Or end time tribulation
We who wait upon the Lord
Are hovering to hear His word

A word in season to the weary one
Our work has really just begun
Though it be the eleventh hour
We work within the Spirit's power
Reconciling men to God
Good News! The beautiful feet are shod.

And knowing the hour indeed is late
Upon the roof we gladly wait
Not seeking to save our life below
Not hiding stores, afraid to show

Redemption draws near!
Lets be of good cheer!
Let not your hearts be troubled
Though trial and temptation soon be doubled
The fate of waiting husbandmen
Is ours and has always been
To share the cross our Savior bore
Loving all those Jesus died for

If we walk within the secret place
Beneath the shadow of His wings
Men will see His glory in our face
And wonder at our love and peace and joy
And grace
Even in our sufferings

Yea, sooner or later the towers fall
And the walls collapse as trumpets call
But as you run to announce your part
Be sure the horse is before the cart

Go, gather those who are suffering
And minister to them and bring
A glass of water to the ones who thirst
With the love of God even though you are cursed

Then great is your reward in heaven
But shed you now this grievous leaven
Your words went out for all to hear
And the things you spoke did not appear
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 02:50:06 PM »
 enjoying all your posts!.......there is a time and purpose for everything under heaven[God's time/God's purpose]....but they

  try and change times and seasons[before God's time/purpose=presumption/same as witchcraft...after God's time/purpose=

  failing to perceive the time of His visitation].............

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 07:50:57 PM »
An Open Letter To The Prophets of Doom- from Eaglesway

Your deadlines have all come and past
Will the prophet of doom repent at last?
I would not touch the Lord's anointed
I just don't see you so appointed

I know that God is judging sin
But we go forth weeping
Then come back in
Carrying our sheaves rejoicing

To edify is our great calling
Even if the sky IS falling

Come trial or persecution
Or end time tribulation
We who wait upon the Lord
Are hovering to hear His word

A word in season to the weary one
Our work has really just begun
Though it be the eleventh hour
We work within the Spirit's power
Reconciling men to God
Good News! The beautiful feet are shod.

And knowing the hour indeed is late
Upon the roof we gladly wait
Not seeking to save our life below
Not hiding stores, afraid to show

Redemption draws near!
Lets be of good cheer!
Let not your hearts be troubled
Though trial and temptation soon be doubled
The fate of waiting husbandmen
Is ours and has always been
To share the cross our Savior bore
Loving all those Jesus died for

If we walk within the secret place
Beneath the shadow of His wings
Men will see His glory in our face
And wonder at our love and peace and joy
And grace
Even in our sufferings

Yea, sooner or later the towers fall
And the walls collapse as trumpets call
But as you run to announce your part
Be sure the horse is before the cart

Go, gather those who are suffering
And minister to them and bring
A glass of water to the ones who thirst
With the love of God even though you are cursed

Then great is your reward in heaven
But shed you now this grievous leaven
Your words went out for all to hear
And the things you spoke did not appear

Very nice! :smile:

But let us not forget that the body is made up of many parts. (Although i suppose there may be those who want to enter a bunker and let ppl sink or swim! :o

I believe there is a mere 45 days (Dn 12;11,12) in which the ppl of the day should retreat from public sphere.

If some should "see the sword coming" (of rev 20:4-2:10) and not try to warn, imo, would be an affront to God.

I have grand children.

Even during a large storm, having water, food and heat source laid by and available is not somehow wrong.. Yes, I believe God will provide in that day, and perhaps He may use the water and food that may hopefully be in my basement, to do so for someone.. I think we do wrong to judge the motives of others and their message they seek to share.. For a long time any time I spoke about Bible prophecy it was assumed the reason I did so is I was 'worried' about my own skin. And that was about all anybody felt they needed to know..
 :smile: God bless..
- Is it written? no repentance after death? if resurrected still in ones sins (2nd Resurrection) will be weeping and wailing? Holy Days - Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles prophecy the three peaks of His long 2nd advent? Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process? by the end of judgement age, veRy few to cleansing in LOF?
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- "...aLL things new" Rev21:5 "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1 - Is 11:7 Micah 4:4 Is 30:25
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2015, 10:37:19 PM »
I,too,have drinking water,beans and rice stored. Live near the New Madrid fault. around six weeks ago,my 15 yr old grand-daughter

  was asked by the teacher,if any of them had water/food etc laid up. she told them..we do..teacher said 'you're Grandma is smart!"

    I plan on sharing material as well as spiritual food..with my neighbors...better a neighbor that

  is near..then a brother far away in the day of disaster.

   ps  have no heat source other then a lot of blankets if electric/gas lines are broken[have my eyes are out for little wood-burner and

  gas  stove for cooking/fish fryer type thing]

     just a few little fishes and loaves of bread fed a multitude.....they have already been with me three days...and I fear they may give

   out on the journey home.

   it is true there is a great glut of 'doom and gloom' in the news/churches..and false profits......there are wolf's in sheep clothing....

   and you know what happened to the boy that called 'wolf"!!  but if the spirit of the True shepherd be in you.....He shall gather

   the scattered flock...that was scattered in the dark day/doom and gloom.

   

     

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2015, 11:24:05 PM »
Happy New Year all. Earlier I saw that William Tapley has a new video out which predicts that Russia will nuke America and Great Brittan this year and uses various Bible Passages to make his case. The link for it is below. I would like to know all of your thoughts on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxhUTyrOWYo

..no I don't put a lot of stock in most youtube prophets, though i suppose, many may have some true threads..

Mostly I see Bible prophecy as -- 1.world governing -- 2.global "pornos" based economy becoming more and more evident as pornos and sex slaves based or including -- 3.preceded in large part by the false prophet/teaching(strong delusion) causing the great falling away from Christianity based culture --

That we are in a pause of the use of thermal-nuclear as warfare and have tended to think when it occurs it will be in the middle east.. but I could be wrong, and as limited -- until armegeddon when it becomes larger

..that there will be drought (rev 12:15 w/ Lk 23:28,31)

I don't sit around and worry about these things, nor do I try to figure out when they will occur, but I do know that a nation or civilization collapse is not a pretty thing, and it becomes real bad, real fast.

I believe there's only 45 days, for the most part, for most to worry about, though I know there are brethren suffering terribly in other lands.. I too want to hold on to my sense of good and happy life, unfortunately I don't believe we should bury insight that may help others if we truly have it..

Daniel 12:11 and 12.. "1,290 days after the" (place of) "daily sacrifice" (in Jerusalem) "is taken away, is when the horror that desolates will be set up, happy the one who makes it to 45 days later"

I'm sorry to say, but history is full of unpleasant things.

..."1,290 days after the" (place of) "daily sacrifice" (in Jerusalem) "is taken away.."

"happy/blessed is the one who waits and comes to day 1,335"

May he say to all of us "well done good and faithful servant" and may we not think He delays His coming and begin to beat upon other members of His household..

..."many differing parts to the body.."

 :Peace2: :smile:

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- Is it written? no repentance after death? if resurrected still in ones sins (2nd Resurrection) will be weeping and wailing? Holy Days - Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles prophecy the three peaks of His long 2nd advent? Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process? by the end of judgement age, veRy few to cleansing in LOF?
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- "...aLL things new" Rev21:5 "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1 - Is 11:7 Micah 4:4 Is 30:25
http://www.bubblews.com/news/9080033 -revelation told in rhyme - 45 days

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2015, 11:28:47 PM »
 :cloud9: There is also a superstitious spirit that masquerades as prophetic. It's easy to spot; it's always looking to the natural happenings FIRST, and trying to match them to the Word, not understanding that the Word is SPIRIT, and therefore ETERNAL, the same YESTERDAY, TODAY AND TOMORROW, therefore it has to have the same meaning SPIRITUALLY to a first century believer that it does to a 21st century believer. Pretty sure there were no black helicopters in 70AD to worry about.

Here is how you test the spirits; the spirit always exalts the one that sent it. On the day of Pentecost the Spirit that was speaking was exalting God, speaking of His wondrous works among men. That Spirit is not divided, nor has His topic changed. If it's not pointing to and lifting up our God and His Christ, it's the wrong spirit.

And; the prophet Isaiah was all gloom and doom until the 6th (I believe) chapter when He saw the Lord high and lifted up.

It's all about our perspective. An eagle flies above the storm; for him it is always sunny.  :dsunny: Blessings....
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2015, 11:52:54 PM »
I totally agree with a healthy skepticism about all things extra biblical (other than the Bible itself). But I think we do disservice to unity in our Lord's Spirit by painting God's people other than our own group, with a broad brush.. this is a natural "party spirit" of sects, and division which is listed as a fruit of the natural/not yet born again nature..

Every where we go in life, there's fences and people bristle unless you walk their party line and speak their party/sect speak.. They turn you away with their party spirit (exclusiveness) and intolerance and it ought not to be so in the body of Jesus as it is not a fruit of the Spirit.

If one is genuinely not interested in Bible prophecy, there's nothing wrong with that, but surely we should not seek to silence and censor voices which are interested in BibLe prophecy.. And perhaps their motives are not as we like to paint them and dismiss them.. It's just possible that some believers may have a gift of discerning of spirits and can see a wolf before it pounces upon the people, and they are seeking to provide warning and advice..

And because someone warns about a wolf, does not mean they do not talk about the rainbow.. or that is God's eternal un-breakable paradise where the lion will eat straw like the ox and the bear will graze with the cow.. once this issue of knowing good from evil is fully proven beyond any rational doubt that is.. (imo) nor is it likely true they seldom think about or talk about the ongoing transformation which drawing close to Jesus and continuing to draw close, is the POWER of God at work within us and within the body of Jesus..
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- Is it written? no repentance after death? if resurrected still in ones sins (2nd Resurrection) will be weeping and wailing? Holy Days - Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles prophecy the three peaks of His long 2nd advent? Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process? by the end of judgement age, veRy few to cleansing in LOF?
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- "...aLL things new" Rev21:5 "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1 - Is 11:7 Micah 4:4 Is 30:25
http://www.bubblews.com/news/9080033 -revelation told in rhyme - 45 days

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2015, 12:43:42 AM »
 :cloud9: Hi....IF your reply is to my post.....no offense was intended. Let me just say that I don't have any group, nor is my motive to silence or censor anyone, but to offer wisdom gleaned from the fire to whosoever will.

There is a great misunderstanding of what prophecy is and is not among the church, and it is the counterfeit that I am speaking of, one which is so subtle yet bordering on a spirit of divination in it's manifestation.

Prophecy is not someone telling you what's going to happen next Tuesday (future), or what you had for lunch yesterday (past); both the thieves on the cross had the same testimonies, but the spirit of prophecy is the Lord's testimony and by definition it is declaring (making a declaration, the right of a king) those things that are not as though they were, and is forever in the NOW mode. He speaks and it becomes part of the Christ being formed in us, part of the QUICKENED body. We have a tendency to call it "revelation", but really it's no different that the Spirit hovering above the waters, and we're the waters/spirits He's hovering above, declaring something that was not as though it was (NOW).

We see it at work first in Genesis 1 where the Spirit of God is hovering above the waters. In the current dispensation, prophesying is a speaking gift assigned to the office of the prophets, and it is used in conjunction with two of the other speaking gifts, word of knowledge and word of wisdom.

One of the most awesome examples of this is where God has the prophet to prophesy over the dry bones, ie. speaking those things that are not as though they were (realm of absolute authority). A king speaks in His kingdom, and there is no one to speak against it. His word is absolute, to be carried out immediately.

This action "puts meat on the bones", ie. the law (not a bone of His was broken) is clothed in the spiritual flesh of Christ, a many-membered body set to appear. So I offer this guideline again.....does it "put meat on the bones", ie. add to the spiritual wisdom/flesh of Christ?

The first line of Revelation sums it all up, the revelation of Jesus Christ. He is being revealed in a people that are called by His name/formed into His nature. Where is Jesus Christ NOW? Is He not in us? Where did Paul say in Romans the glory was going to be revealed, and was it not in us? What is that glory, is it not the only begotten son of the Father and didn't He say in Colossians that Christ is the hope of glory?

So my point is; why are we looking to a natural, literal everything, when we have a spiritual covenant, PARTICULARLY when it comes to prophecy? There needs to be balance both ways. Just my  :2c: Blessings....
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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2015, 04:48:18 AM »
Other than to-day.
Is there a day that a prophet will mark,
and we should prepare for that day?

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2015, 05:28:50 AM »
Other than to-day.
Is there a day that a prophet will mark,
and we should prepare for that day?

The early Adventists did that for a particular day in 1844, but that day came and went without incident.  It became a watershed event in American Christianity, known as the "Great Disappointment."  Bing, Google, or Wiki it.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: Bible Prophecy 2015 Obama vs Putin
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2015, 06:26:08 AM »
:o)

The day of visitation is the revelation of Jesus.

"If I be lifted up from the earth i will draw all men unto me"

"I will be their God and they will be my people and I will live among them and walk among them."

Remember the Jupiter Effect? Y2k? Some very well known prophets told the world a few years ago Phoenix and Las Vegas were going to burn "soon".


The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy.

Sooner or later some prophet of doom will warn and the fire will fall.

That won't make him a true prophet.

A true prophet unveils the mysteries of the divine nature, revealing Jesus to men and women- leading them into union with the I AM.

The fire will eventually fall. Every earthly empire rises and falls- after God has accomplished His purpose, being as He is, the smith that blows the coals, to form a weapon for His will and then melt it back down again when He is done.

But it is the testimony of Jesus Christ that must be exalted. "Today if you hear His voice, harden not your hearts".

Where is the edification in these prophecies, where the revelation?. Round and round the wheel turns and over and over people get worked up over these doomsday threats. The ark of God is found by listening to His still small voice. Trim the wick and purchase extra oil. When you hear the call you can light quickly upon awaking the lamp that will lead you into the refuge of His choosing- the secret place of the most high.
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