Author Topic: Egypt punished, for what purpose?  (Read 611 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline gregoryfl

  • 300
  • *
  • Posts: 459
Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« on: August 14, 2014, 03:30:41 PM »
The punishment:

The burden of Egypt: "Behold, Yahweh rides on a swift cloud, and comes to Egypt. The idols of Egypt will tremble at his presence; and the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst. I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians, and they will fight everyone against his brother, and everyone against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. The spirit of Egypt will fail in its midst. I will destroy its counsel. They will seek the idols, the charmers, those who have familiar spirits, and the wizards. I will give over the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel lord. A fierce king will rule over them," says the Lord, Yahweh of Armies. The waters will fail from the sea, and the river will be wasted and become dry. The rivers will become foul. The streams of Egypt will be diminished and dried up. The reeds and flags will wither away. The meadows by the Nile, by the brink of the Nile, and all the sown fields of the Nile, will become dry, be driven away, and be no more. The fishermen will lament, and all those who fish in the Nile will mourn, and those who spread nets on the waters will languish. Moreover those who work in combed flax, and those who weave white cloth, will be confounded. The pillars will be broken in pieces. All those who work for hire will be grieved in soul. The princes of Zoan are utterly foolish. The counsel of the wisest counselors of Pharaoh has become stupid. How do you say to Pharaoh, "I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings?" Where then are your wise men? Let them tell you now; and let them know what Yahweh of Armies has purposed concerning Egypt. The princes of Zoan have become fools. The princes of Memphis are deceived. They have caused Egypt to go astray, who are the cornerstone of her tribes. Yahweh has mixed a spirit of perverseness in the midst of her; and they have caused Egypt to go astray in all of its works, like a drunken man staggers in his vomit. Neither shall there be for Egypt any work, which head or tail, palm branch or rush, may do. In that day the Egyptians will be like women. They will tremble and fear because of the shaking of the hand of Yahweh of Armies, which he shakes over them. The land of Judah will become a terror to Egypt. Everyone to whom mention is made of it will be afraid, because of the plans of Yahweh of Armies, which he determines against it.

The result of the punishment:

In that day, there will be five cities in the land of Egypt that speak the language of Canaan, and swear to Yahweh of Armies. One will be called "The city of destruction." In that day, there will be an altar to Yahweh in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to Yahweh at its border. It will be for a sign and for a witness to Yahweh of Armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to Yahweh because of oppressors, and he will send them a savior and a defender, and he will deliver them. Yahweh will be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians will know Yahweh in that day. Yes, they will worship with sacrifice and offering, and will vow a vow to Yahweh, and will perform it. Yahweh will strike Egypt, striking and healing. They will return to Yahweh, and he will be entreated by them, and will heal them. In that day there will be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria; and the Egyptians will worship with the Assyrians.

The benefit of being punished:

In that day, Israel will be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth; because Yahweh of Armies has blessed them, saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance."
(Isa 19:1-25)


Ronen

Offline marie glen

  • Bronze
  • *
  • Posts: 1175
  • Gender: Female
  • HiS perfect intent? Besides paradise & perfection?
    • My Bubbles!
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 04:32:30 PM »


The benefit of being punished:

In that day, Israel will be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth; because Yahweh of Armies has blessed them, saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance."
(Isa 19:1-25)


Ronen

Amen! very interesting! Sort of like a microcosm also.. humanity wandered from God which brings no good and the consequences is what will thoroughly, I believe, convince "all" that to wander from God (who iS life itself, imo, and perfection) is not only futile but the epitome of, well, stupidity! For it can only ever end in a wisp of self destructive smoke, dust and ashes, the apocalypse (unveiling of truth when things crash and fall, i.e. the crash and fall is the unveiling/convincing, imo)

Good post!! :smile: ..interesting about the three..
~ ~ ~
Where does it say no repentance after death? being resurrected still in their sins (the 2nd) during age of Judgment, there's sure to be weeping and wailing & for those habitual despisers of God, gnashing of teeth--who mAy make their way to LOF
~Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process??
~ ~ ~
The historist elements in the Bk of Rev shed light on the futurist! (Like13:13, same as, 6:12-17-but both  begin/historist & end/futurist r described here so early! a clever lock; & parts of ch12-hist; ch's 10,12,13 = inserts)
~imo we are at 7:1 a pause of 6:12/splitting of atom

Offline lomarah

  • Silver
  • *
  • Posts: 2248
  • Gender: Female
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 02:29:09 PM »
Love the post Ronen. This is truly the heart of our Father and is what I try to show people regarding His "punishments" being restoratative and for our good, always.
From Him and through Him and to Him are all things.

Offline Lazarus Short

  • Bronze
  • *
  • Posts: 1603
  • Gender: Male
  • The truth points to itself. -Kosh Naranek
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 05:01:05 PM »
"...Assyria the work of my hands..."

Truly, Assyria is the work of God's hands, for the Assyrian people still exist, and the Assyrian Orthodox Church (the TRUE Eastern Church) has a long and glorious history. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Church_of_the_East
« Last Edit: August 15, 2014, 05:04:47 PM by Lazarus Short »
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

Offline eaglesway

  • < Moderator >
  • *
  • Posts: 4144
  • Gender: Male
  • Grace & Peace be multiplied unto you, in Jesus
    • Hell is a Myth.com
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 09:13:00 PM »
The history is long, not so sure about glorious tho(pardom my disagreement). Execution, political union and subservience to potentates, factionalism and recurring concessions to Catholicism. Personally, as its history reads, I am not sure it could be considered a part of the New Jerusalem.
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. hellisamyth.webs.com

Offline Lazarus Short

  • Bronze
  • *
  • Posts: 1603
  • Gender: Male
  • The truth points to itself. -Kosh Naranek
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 10:29:14 PM »
The history is long, not so sure about glorious tho(pardom my disagreement). Execution, political union and subservience to potentates, factionalism and recurring concessions to Catholicism. Personally, as its history reads, I am not sure it could be considered a part of the New Jerusalem.

I don't care to judge them, and our end of Christendom (when was the last time you heard that tern?) may seem strange to them, too.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

Offline eaglesway

  • < Moderator >
  • *
  • Posts: 4144
  • Gender: Male
  • Grace & Peace be multiplied unto you, in Jesus
    • Hell is a Myth.com
Re: Egypt punished, for what purpose?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 05:02:25 AM »
Certainly so. Whatever our end is ;o)
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. hellisamyth.webs.com