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Another gospel
« on: June 16, 2012, 02:02:29 PM »
Gal 1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be anathema.

I have been reading the book "A Divine Revelation of Hell" by Mary K Baxter, and I am astonished.
Not astonished by what she is writhing, but astonished by the fact that millions of believers takes her message as being a divine revelation.
After reading her book I have to ask one simple question. Is this the gospel Paul preached, or is this another gospel?

Let me just quote a few of her statements, and let's have a look at what she is saying.
This is one of the things "Jesus" told her: My child, I will take you into hell by My Spirit, and I will show you many things which I want the world to know.
What this Jesus of her is saying, is that the gospel God reviled to Paul, and the gospel he preached is no longer sufficient. The gospel of God's grace and of God's divine purpose is outdated.
Now "Jesus" has given his prophet Mary Baxter a divine commission. And her commission is to tell the world that unfortunately God forgot to reveal the truth about a burning hell when He revealed the gospel to Paul.
And the thing about Paul saying that he had been preaching "all the counsel of God" also needs to be changed. Because from now on we know that Mary K Baxter is the only one preaching all the counsel of God.

Jesus also told her; I want you to write a book and tell of the visions and of all the things I reveal to you.  You and I will walk through hell together.
Now, this is something else. Paul never went to hell. The only thing he could boast of was a trip to the third heaven. But he never gave us any description of what the third heaven was all about. So let's admit it, that's boring stuff.
But Hallelujah! Here comes Miss Baxter along, and what does she give us? She gives us a fascinated "Grand Tour" through all the departments of hell. And with a language full of colorful descriptions and piquant details she gives us a wonderful and vivid description of what hell is all about. Now, that's something else, isn't it?

Jesus told her: I am going to reveal unto you the reality of hell, that many may be saved, many will repent of their evil ways before it is too late.
Miss Baxter received her revelation in 1976, but only seven years later she finished her book. Now if this message was so important, and that soon it would be too late, how could she wait seven years before she told the world about her divine revelation?
Just imagine who many sinners going to hell, just because she waited for seven years!!
The blood of all this lost souls, are on your hands Miss Baxter!
And by the way, are there any records on how many conversions this book has led to.
After all, almost 30 years has passed since her book was published. And if we are going to believe the words "Jesus" told Miss Baxter, there should be a considerable numbers of conversions after all this years.   
Until this day I have not heard ONE person saying that the reading of her book lead him or her to repentance and salvation.
The only thing I have heard, are a few hardcore defenders of a burning hell, telling us how important the message of this book is.



What can we say?
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 02:56:37 PM »
A while back I used to read that stuff too. I don't waste my time anymore lol. (Not that I have much time to waste these days anyhow lol.) But actually I didn't bother reading her book because I could tell by the look of her that she was not a true prophet of God.

And yes, she is FOR SURE preaching "another gospel". It's kind of ironic isn't it... her "divine revelation of hell" is such good news (gospel).  :laugh2:
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 04:40:51 PM »
As I am very new to the wonderful gospel of UR, many things are new to me
There is no more than 3 months since I heard the gospel of UR for the first time.
During more than 30 years, I was a traditional evangelical pastor / preacher. I was never a radical preacher of hell. But it was allways like a dark spot in my subconscious all the time.
After that my eyes were opened to the true gospel, I become more and more amazed that I once believed in those terrible doctrine I used to

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 07:42:36 PM »
There are two Gospels.

Gospel of inclusion.
Gospel of illusion.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 07:45:12 PM »
As I am very new to the wonderful gospel of UR, many things are new to me
There is no more than 3 months since I heard the gospel of UR for the first time.
During more than 30 years, I was a traditional evangelical pastor / preacher. I was never a radical preacher of hell. But it was allways like a dark spot in my subconscious all the time.
After that my eyes were opened to the true gospel, I become more and more amazed that I once believed in those terrible doctrine I used to
Not just in religion but in all aspects of life the first and often the biggest step (by far) is considering other options.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 09:02:31 PM »
As I am very new to the wonderful gospel of UR, many things are new to me
There is no more than 3 months since I heard the gospel of UR for the first time.
During more than 30 years, I was a traditional evangelical pastor / preacher. I was never a radical preacher of hell. But it was allways like a dark spot in my subconscious all the time.
After that my eyes were opened to the true gospel, I become more and more amazed that I once believed in those terrible doctrine I used to
Not just in religion but in all aspects of life the first and often the biggest step (by far) is considering other options.

That is so true.  :cloud9:
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 10:55:25 PM »
There are two Gospels.

Gospel of inclusion.
Gospel of illusion.

Things are not always as they appear; it's a matter of perception.

"The eyes can only see what the mind has, is, or will be prepared to comprehend."

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 09:07:26 AM »
As I am very new to the wonderful gospel of UR, many things are new to me
There is no more than 3 months since I heard the gospel of UR for the first time.
During more than 30 years, I was a traditional evangelical pastor / preacher. I was never a radical preacher of hell. But it was allways like a dark spot in my subconscious all the time.
After that my eyes were opened to the true gospel, I become more and more amazed that I once believed in those terrible doctrine I used to

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 03:05:48 AM »
I think I read that book some years ago, if it was the one containing an account of "the heart of hell."   :eek: :HeartThrob: :eek:  I didn't really believe it then, but I found it hard to put down, and strangely compelling.  With the perspective of years, I only see it as another fictional prop for Hell, the only kind of prop Hell has. :laugh:
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 03:11:50 AM »
I think I read that book some years ago, if it was the one containing an account of "the heart of hell."   :eek: :HeartThrob: :eek:  I didn't really believe it then, but I found it hard to put down, and strangely compelling.  With the perspective of years, I only see it as another fictional prop for Hell, the only kind of prop Hell has. :laugh:

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I've been seeing some UR believers who believe there's actually a literal fiery "hell", but it's just not permanent.  I don't believe there is such a place.  The very word itself is a mistranslation that (I believe) erroneously entered the translations centuries after Jesus' victory.  There likely is a place, or a state of being etc. that is miserable until one repents and confesses, but as I've said before, I don't believe a God Who is Spirit, needs a literal burning fire to accomplish His business.  I believe He can handle it on a spiritual level.   :2c:
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 03:20:47 AM »

 I've been seeing some UR believers who believe there's actually a literal fiery "hell", but it's just not permanent.  I don't believe there is such a place.  The very word itself is a mistranslation that (I believe) erroneously entered the translations centuries after Jesus' victory.  There likely is a place, or a state of being etc. that is miserable until one repents and confesses, but as I've said before, I don't believe a God Who is Spirit, needs a literal burning fire to accomplish His business.  I believe He can handle it on a spiritual level.   :2c:

I think there are some who see Hell as a place for burning away our dross (wood, hay, and stubble), and I see that as the Lake of Fire.  There is a lot said in the Bible about dross, refining fire, and suchlike.  The whole trouble with Hell is that the concept of the refining fire has departed from the Bible, and been inflated with a lot of hot air.  The fruits of such theology has included cruelty, persecution, and intolerance.  By these fruits (at least) I know it is false.

Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 03:33:44 AM »
Kinda crude in my mind, literal fire for an age or whatever lol.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2012, 03:35:00 AM »
:) John.

Yeah Laz, I'm not saying at all that everything's pleasant, "no worries".  But I guess I see it a little more that the "torment" is a place of spiritual testing, convicting, teaching, and ultimately bringing to repentance and to kneeling and confessing Jesus as Lord.  I like the way J. Preston Eby puts it;

"Make no mistake! OUR GOD is a consuming fire! He is man's "horse breaker" and He will break you, precious friend of mine, and bring you to the foot of the cross of Jesus no matter how hot He has to build the fire around you! Even if long ages of fiery judgment and tormenting darkness fall upon you, they will last no longer than till the Great Fire of God has melted all arrogance into humility, and all that is self has died in the bloody sweat and all-saving cross of the Christ, which will never give up its redeeming power till sin and sinners have no more a name among the creatures of God."

Amen, blessings.

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2012, 03:44:08 AM »
Kinda crude in my mind, literal fire for an age or whatever lol.
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2012, 03:51:06 AM »
  I tell you a sacred secreat....due to Jesus any broken off branches are snatched out of the fire[the Lord rebuke thee satan..is this not a bracnch snatched

  from the fire[and the man-child was snatched up to the throne of God.

    a branch shall be put forth of Jesse[sure mercies of David....the King/High Preist]

   we may expierence fiery trials down here...with satan the accusor of the brether and sins law.  But Jesus is faithful to the will of the Father

  that all men[man/child] be saved

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 03:59:19 AM »
:) John.

Yeah Laz, I'm not saying at all that everything's pleasant, "no worries".  But I guess I see it a little more that the "torment" is a place of spiritual testing, convicting, teaching, and ultimately bringing to repentance and to kneeling and confessing Jesus as Lord.  I like the way J. Preston Eby puts it;

"Make no mistake! OUR GOD is a consuming fire! He is man's "horse breaker" and He will break you, precious friend of mine, and bring you to the foot of the cross of Jesus no matter how hot He has to build the fire around you! Even if long ages of fiery judgment and tormenting darkness fall upon you, they will last no longer than till the Great Fire of God has melted all arrogance into humility, and all that is self has died in the bloody sweat and all-saving cross of the Christ, which will never give up its redeeming power till sin and sinners have no more a name among the creatures of God."

Amen, blessings.

I see this consumming fire melting all arrogance into humility in those who are called now while we are in the flesh. I think that is why we won't be hurt of the second death because we have already experienced it now.

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 04:08:08 AM »
you know his comment about the Lord being man's horsebreaker[egypts horses are flesh] and the iron rod used on thenations/ clay vessel by the shepherd

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 04:19:38 AM »
:) John.

Yeah Laz, I'm not saying at all that everything's pleasant, "no worries".  But I guess I see it a little more that the "torment" is a place of spiritual testing, convicting, teaching, and ultimately bringing to repentance and to kneeling and confessing Jesus as Lord.  I like the way J. Preston Eby puts it;

"Make no mistake! OUR GOD is a consuming fire! He is man's "horse breaker" and He will break you, precious friend of mine, and bring you to the foot of the cross of Jesus no matter how hot He has to build the fire around you! Even if long ages of fiery judgment and tormenting darkness fall upon you, they will last no longer than till the Great Fire of God has melted all arrogance into humility, and all that is self has died in the bloody sweat and all-saving cross of the Christ, which will never give up its redeeming power till sin and sinners have no more a name among the creatures of God."

Amen, blessings.

I see this consumming fire melting all arrogance into humility in those who are called now while we are in the flesh. I think that is why we won't be hurt of the second death because we have already experienced it now.

CHB

Amen to that. The blood also covers and cleanses all that would catch flame, if we are confessing our faults unto Him- we have a new and living way through the veil.

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(1Jn 1:9)

Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
(Heb 10:19-22)

This cleansing will eventually wash every created being.

For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
(Col 1:19-20)

It will be accomplished at the point wen each knee bows and each tongue confesses that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father- whether, in this age or the next, whether at the Great White Throne or beyond the lake of fire. IMO these things are purposely obscure so that kno man can boast......

Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN? For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.
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We are in the fire, in God, and God is in us through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and our faith in Him, and our submission to His Lordship. For us the fire purges, "Be not amazed at the trials that you are going through, for  the purifying of your faith is more precious than gold tried in the fire...." It makes us shine and brings in us the divine nature. IMO the lake of fire is an experience of being held in intense light(the light of God's presence) and the light is fire to darkness, and consumes it until all is light (because it produces repentance). I believe it will be an extremely difficult experience for those who go through it.
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 04:52:46 AM »
Luke 6;37  do not judge and you will not be judged. Do not condemn and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven.

   Give and it will be given to you.[mercy]

    Did anyone ever think that if we condemned those who weren't regenerated down here in this life to 'age enduring' punishment...that we just might

  find ourself in a not  so great position... and like miss out on something ourself...an 'age' maybe..and find the door closed on the wedding supper[ten virgins]

   we judge angels?  messengers..if they be of God or of satan[do not beleive every inspired expression[3 frogs/unclean spirits...word of God twisted/false prophet

  =liar  beast=no underst5anding......why do we NOT beleive He takes away the sin of the world?    He WILL DE#MAND ALL OF THE FRUIT....

   and this is ALL of the FRUIT..when He takes away ALL THEIR SIN.  FAITH IS THE ASSURED EXPECTATION OF WHAT IS NOT SEEN.

    Is the accusor of the brethern thrown down from your heavenly places yet?

   entreat encourage admonish one another in love.......because of the increasing of lawlessness the Love of the greater number will wax cold

   to those to whom MUCH is given...MUCH IS EXPECTED

  Now the Prince of this world has been judged...that his WORKS are wicked...and if any man build with wood hay stubble they shall be burnt up..

  and the man..though he suffer loss shall be saved as through fire[the burning upof his 'wicked works'  sin condemned in flesh of all men]

 arrogance of man..to think the free gift is somehow earned

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2012, 05:14:04 AM »
Oh sheila, amen!  :HeartThrob:
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2012, 05:23:52 AM »
I don't know that we can (or that anyone has in this thread) condemn anyone.  I think it's more of an attempt to understand what the scriptures teach.  Scripture teaches what it is to be a believer, how that occurs, but again IMO, that doesn't mean I have a right to say "well this one is, or that one isn't".  But to try to understand and then share what the scriptures teach seems to me to actually be our responsibility.

I've seen the "when this earthly flesh drops off all's OK" understanding.  I.e., when one dies in this life there's instant "redemption".  I've considered that possibility, and I personally just can't find it that way.  I believe "the flesh" in scripture often means "the carnal nature" or "sinfulness/sinful behavior", not just our skin and blood vessels, etc.  I personally don't think it's a reach at all to show the scriptures teach a time of next age testing for those who have not yet believed, leading to their kneeling and confessing Jesus as Lord.  (The following is just conjecture on my part, and may or may not be right).  But for some, for instance those who've never heard but yet not a "hardened apostate", their belief may come instantly when exposed to the Light - for others, it may take longer.  But I don't know what "longer" is.  I don't know if it's at most a day, or up to a year as the early Jews believed, or longer.  I don't know.  Also, I don't believe it's for any individual to specifically point out and say "who's getting what".  God knows.

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2012, 05:36:35 AM »
I believe God knows who needs corrective discipline and who doesn't, and He will carry that out in His own way and in His own timing - and at whatever time He sets. 

It seems to me the differences are, a) some don't believe there's any after-life correction, it's ALL done here.  While others b) believe there is after-life correction for unbelievers, and only done here for some, those called and chosen, who are GIVEN faith to believe in this lifetime.  Yet all will be given faith to believe, in their own order.  I'm sure there are other beliefs I'm missing here.  I lean to 'b'.

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2012, 06:34:35 AM »
I personally don t believe in age during(aionian) kolassis. I believe aionian is a poor translation of the Hebrew word "olam", which is an indefinite period defined by the subject it is connected to- as Jesus said, "few stripes.....many stripes" etc.


No one but God can condemn or justify anyone ever, at any time. We simply strive to "bear witness" to the truth as we see it. The way that we see it has nothing to with whatever "is". Reality simply is what it is. Whether their will be judgment/discipline/kolassis/correction to come, it will be what it is when it is, or isn't- accordingly as the Father has determined the administration of the ages.

I personally believe the scriptures bear witness to correction on the other side of the veil, at or beyond the Great White Throne, but I have no axe to grind about it, because it will be what it will be when it will or won't as the Father has ordained. :)

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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2012, 06:41:51 AM »
John, reminds me of a discussion I was having with some fellows while I was still in orthodoxy/mainstream.  We were talking about pre or post mil..one of the fellows said "I'm a pan-milliniumist - "it will all pan out in the end".   :laughing7:
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Re: Another gospel
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2012, 06:43:51 AM »
This may be shocking  :eek: but I thought I'd go back and see how this thread actually started.  LOL

I saw this quote from the topic-starter wasco, and just wanted to give it a big  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

 
As I am very new to the wonderful gospel of UR, many things are new to me
There is no more than 3 months since I heard the gospel of UR for the first time.
During more than 30 years, I was a traditional evangelical pastor / preacher. I was never a radical preacher of hell. But it was allways like a dark spot in my subconscious all the time.
After that my eyes were opened to the true gospel, I become more and more amazed that I once believed in those terrible doctrine I used to
Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23