Thanks Seth and Simon ,I appreciate you both answering in different ways .
I am going to make this one post for both ,
I did read Isaiah 30 all of it and do see this as prophecy to be fulfilled in Christ as Jesus Witness " He would do this very thing " .
a deadly wound is healed in Judah .. for me those young lions of Ezekiel 19 of failure , I see the beast natures of them as Lions devouring one another .
We know Jesus is of the Lion tribe of Judah Rev 5 ;5 Then one of the elders said to me,
"Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed.
He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals."
I do believe beyond a shadow of a doubt , when Jesus come as a babe , lamb in the fullness of time and grew strong in Spirit Luke 1 :80 And the child grew and became strong in spirit; and he lived in the wilderness until he appeared publicly to Israel.
and as He ministered HE DID JUDGE
what was right in the sight of God , healing the broken and the poor and prisoners bound by sin and ignorance a darkness of the Knowledge of God , He also judged the scribes , ones who had the word of God and lawyers who knew the Law of Moses and showed NO MERCY with 2 or 3 false witnesses and also judged the self righteous Pharisees those in power to make a difference and only abused this power to lord and master over the weak and pitiful , while they become more fat and wicked with every turn , to become prey themselves in the end to Gods wrath against them
they put Jesus to death , they did not desire this King over them , they wanted to reign as kings themselves for a time and everyone was at their mercy and used the Law of Moses to destroy others
just as we see it being fulfilled in the east countries even now !! they say they SEE , because they know the Law and still reject Jesus Christ to this very day
so the same sin /error remains , they have stumbled over the stumbling STONE and rock of offense
We also can be as they are and not even realize it , we want Law and justice and hate sin and yet allow our own sins and the ones we love and support as forgiven and ignored , But still wont forgive them ???
I agree with you Simon , you have made a very good case , If we accept the Cross of Jesus Christ as the place to lay down sin in our own lives and the judgment of sin as Christ being the Just Judge so being the Lord of the dead and living
and allow Him to fulfill all things by faith trusting His judgement as righteous
there would be no need to judge anything before its time , because the TIME would be when the LORD COMES
and our witness would be to declare His righteousness in the earth and help those whom are broken and bound and are still under guilt because of sin
How can they be set free unless the LORD COMES ? and How does He come ?
the Brightness of His coming in the SAME SPIRIT OF HOLINESS AND TRUTH to them as was also given to us
to put that old man of sin to death and make the new man in Christ ALIVE to God for Gods own purpose .
For me the spirit of slumber is very much upon the churches today fulfilling the 10 virgins parable even today !! the wise and foolish ones still exist
Romans 11 7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened; 8just as it is written, "GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
For one thing who is Israel but Gods first born ? but is Gods chosen and who is Christ Jesus but HIS OWN SON
Being under the Law of Moses
the curse was to kill the first born son , that is the same spirit of slumber /stupor
being under is bondage and overcoming is on top of that very Law of the knowledge of good and evil
Jesus is the Tree of Life and we all must overcome the knowledge of good and evil in order to EAT of the tree of life
Jesus said make the tree good and its fruits good or make it corrupt and also its fruit a tree is KNOWN by its fruits
How are we to be KNOWN ? To be Like Jesus , a tree of life ? , or the corrupt tree still under the same sin and corruption that has always been in Gods garden
Jesus hung on the tree of knowledge of good and evil , that was HIS CROSS TO BEAR !! same cross we have to follow Him into that baptism of death
in order for the sin to end , that Satan or no man can condemn accuse nor judge for the TREE OF LIFE to come
If sinless perfection is to be the new creatures in Christ WE have to OBEY HIS WORDS BY HIS SPIRIT , THIS RESURRECTION and Life
HOW ?? for one Jesus tells us exactly how to overcome the world and its sinful sway
We have to fight against a carnal nature that wants to rule and reign and have dominance and power over everything that crosses our path
and cannot ever justify it with scriptures and a spirit in a man , these will not do ever !!
When you let Christ reign your heart , you will rest in hope, a true hope and not become weary
I was looking at the evil one yesterday , that one we must overcome every last one of us , God is fair , it can only be though Christ power and blood and not of ourselves the evil one or just evil is full of toils and hardships and sickness and troubles , just as we see in the world , this WITNESS against Christ
and you know what ? it goes all the way back to cain , YES CAIN !! the same curse God places on him , being a man and his brothers blood he spilled on the ground by anger and jealousy Cain has a mark on him that any man kill him , he was under the 7 fold curse , but cain was banished from Gods presence and set out to wander and would produce nothing but labors and toils and troubles and everything he put his hand to turned to nothing good !!
I believe this is the wrath of God abiding on the children of disobedience ,
TWO marks/As signs As any man who wanted to kill him was also given this curse as a mark of the beast , cannot buy trade or sell their own souls /lives for the the truth nor eat of the fruits of the Spirit and life , tree of Life
as the wrath of God is upon him
and those with the mark of Christ are sealed till the day of redemption and the wrath of God does not abide or dwell on or in them , but the wrath of man does
Allegory , in Galatians 4
You Are Children of the Promise
21 Those who want to be controlled by Moses' laws should tell me something. Are you really listening to what Moses' Teachings say? 22 Scripture says that Abraham had two sons, one by a woman who was a slave and the other by a free woman. 23 Now, the son of the slave woman was conceived in a natural way, but the son of the free woman was conceived through a promise made to Abraham.
24 I'm going to use these historical events as an illustration. The women illustrate two arrangements.[c] The one woman, Hagar, is the arrangement made on Mount Sinai. Her children are born into slavery. 25 Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia. She is like Jerusalem today because she and her children are slaves. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 Scripture says:
"Rejoice, women who cannot get pregnant,
who cannot give birth to any children!
Break into shouting, those who feel no pains of childbirth!
Because the deserted woman will have more children
than the woman who has a husband."
28 Now you, brothers and sisters, are children of the promise like Isaac.
29 Furthermore, at that time the son who was conceived in a natural way persecuted the son conceived in a spiritual way.
That's exactly what's happening now. 30 But what does Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, because the son of the slave woman must never share the inheritance with the son of the free woman." 31 Brothers and sisters, we are not children of a slave woman but of the free woman.
the seeds of the two that come from the tree of knowledge of good and evil [of Adam & Eve eating of the forbidden tree produced death & life ] are enmities of the head and the heel bruising /wounds of striking each other as blows
But Jesus Christ come to fulfill all the law , of both trees , the knowledge of Good and evil and the tree of Life
He come to open the seals of the Book . law of Moses and make known by the knowledge of God , so BOTH SONGS are Sung in the heavens , song of Moses and the song of the Lamb Deut 32 Exodus 15
under the 2 or 3 witnesses AS MERCY !, Both the old and new testaments and by His own Spirit of Truth & the Word of God
This is soooo long , sorry if it does not hold interest in some , The thing is there is a lot more