I have a question for Mr. Stroebel; Who cares what you believe? Give scripture for the statements you make. Other than that your arguments are a waste of time. Use the source of your authority: the scripture. Other than that, nobody cares, even if they agree with you.
Even though I agree with Gary, I would say the same to him. Quote the scripture. Nobody cares about anything else. In that arena, someone's upbringing is moot. Gary could have won hands down if he had simply quoted scripture. You can't argue with scripture.
The other goob was clearly closed-minded and clueless. If Gary had quoted scripture everytime he was asked a question, Stroebel would have been reduced to drooling on himself trying to come up with something. Also, Mr. Stroebel, when cornered and against the ropes, will resort to angry ad-hominem and cursing. That would have been quite a spectacle on national TV.