Thanks Rose and Marie. I was very busy taking care of my handicapped sister who recently died, and I'm still helping my 90 year old dad who has dementia. So I don't have the time, energy, or desire to get involved in all the debates here, but this is the only forum online I've seen that at least welcomes the idea of universal reconciliation. I came across a forum lately where there was a message posted by a guy wanting to know what to think about an unsaved loved one who died. The administrator locked the message and said it was an issue for a pastor to deal with. I thought it was sad that they couldn't console the guy with the truth of scripture that the ration of sin is death, not torture forever, and that all mankind will be saved from death at the consummation of the eons. Even though we may disagree here over other doctrine, at least we have the expectation that all on earth and in the heavens will be reconciled to God through Christ. It's good to have folks to communicate with who at least believe that. So I'll be looking in from time to time. Fellowship online may be virtual, but the body of Christ is spiritual. So I don't think it's good, especially for folks struggling in the present economy, to support the mortgage of a church building or to join a church just to socialize when false doctrine is being preached. We have our disagreements, but any family does because everybody has their own perspective. We just have to be humble enough to love each other even though we don't see eye to eye on everything. I think there's a lot of misleading information on YouTube that some folks may believe. That's why it's important for anybody who knows the truth to try to counter that with some helpful information. It's easy to publish a video on there. Every believer should do it to provide a truthful alternative to all the false information being preached in videos there. There are militant atheists on YouTube spewing forth their doctrine, and they need to be told that we believers have an rational evidence based faith. They say we're anti-science, but our faith is confirmed by science while theirs is simply a misguided philosophy. DNA is coded information that we know can only come from an intelligent consciousness. It is unscientific and irrational to deny that. Anyway, I'm glad to hear from you ladies. I'll be in touch. God bless you.