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Offline Gary Amirault

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Is Hell in the Bible debate
« on: February 01, 2011, 07:55:13 PM »
Gary Amirault is replying to a rebuttal a man named Dave Leigh posted on a video I did entitled "Toxic Bibles." He has allowed me to respond to His rebuttal and has agreed to post my reply on the following two sites. He has also opened the thread to comments from visitors. So, please, visit and say something:

Is Hell in the Bible?:
http://www.thejesusagenda.net/
http://rethinkingfaith.com/

My video entitled "Toxic Bibles" is located at Youtube.com In the search type tentmaker777 which is our video channel at youtube. Then scroll down to the "Toxic Bibles" video. There are several sections. Please also leave comments there and rate them. Folks, the more you open your mouth, the more you post, the more you study to show yourself approved, the more the black stain of Hell will go away making this world a better place.

Toxic Bibles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yGKFO5F0vM

P.S. I'd like to get an idea of how many folks are active here. Send me an email and let me know you read this at gary at tentmaker dot org. If you've had problems registering or logging in please let me know that too. Gary Amirault, founder Tentmaker Ministries

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 09:29:48 PM »
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Read about half way Gary - Alas this fellow is NOT ripe for the MESSAGE - :sigh:

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Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 01:08:51 AM »
Well, Taffy, most of the time these kind of events are usually not for the ones engaged but for the ones who happen to drop in via google or something like that. This response is taking a lot more of my time than I thought it would. And then there is responding to the comments. Aargh! Oh, wait minute, let me find an aargh icon:  :sigh:

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 04:01:58 PM »
Hi Gary,

Just to let you know - your ministry is reaching alot of people.  I definitely appreciate it - it has helped me.

I read through your comments on Dave Leigh's review - and you & Taffy are right - this person is not ready to see it, but it will plant a seed, and others may consider the possibility.  It can be things like this that years later you remember and finally decide to go and study up on it and then you see the light.

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 04:22:14 PM »
Well, Taffy, most of the time these kind of events are usually not for the ones engaged but for the ones who happen to drop in via google or something like that. This response is taking a lot more of my time than I thought it would. And then there is responding to the comments. Aargh! Oh, wait minute, let me find an aargh icon:  :sigh:
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 yes Gary Not unlike Tents board - your never know whos lurking in the wings - some read for quite sometime before making an enterance -

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Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 10:30:17 PM »
Hey Gary,

I just skimmed through that guy's stuff, didn't read all of it. However, I noticed Matthew 25:46 was once again used to prove ET. Some time ago I posted a part of Aldai Loudy's "God's Eonian Purpose", which deals with this particular passage. Here: http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/arguments_against_universal_salvation/getting_swarmed_debate_9242.msg115254.html#msg115254
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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 05:18:51 AM »
I just posted over there at Gary's request, and he'd like others to make some comments as well.    http://rethinkingfaith.com/

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 12:54:04 AM »
I'm not sure if the kjv can be described as a toxic bible. The language can be a bit blunt, but concerning Hell, i think maybe its our interpretation f it that might find it offensive. Another mans hell is another mans heaven.

So Hell = the unseen place

So perhaps the kjv translaters used hell, for sheol, the grave and tartarus, because all of these are the unseen place.

Nobody has seen tartarus and maybe people might think it is a real place on earth, so maybe that's why the kjv people put hell in there to replace it. For them in those days hell = the unseen place.

So if they said "you are going to be judged in hell by God". They could mean you are going to be judged in the unseen place. A place that we cannot comprehend or see, e.g the lake of fire.

And since they buried people in the earth, one might say they have gone to hell, the unseen place. Only the wicked imagination of man thinks of hell as a torture dungeon, and perhaps throughout generations, the meaning of hell changed from being the unseen place, to all of a sudden being the so called "seen place", by people who would claim to have gone to hell etc in fiery burnings and untold torture.


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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2011, 11:45:29 PM »
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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 11:50:24 PM »

Well done, eaglesway!

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Re: Is Hell in the Bible debate
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 09:15:14 PM »
Thanks Beloved Servant!
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