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« on: June 03, 2012, 07:49:33 PM »
Just got an email from Karen, saying to ask everyone to be patient, THINGS WILL BE FIXED!

So, let's hang in there and keep hope for good things!  :-)     <- (retro smiley) 

For the [logos-saying-word] word of God [is]alive and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 07:58:48 PM »



Note: James one of your mods is no longer mod in this old database...
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Re: The Forum
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 08:03:46 PM »
Is being nosey a sin?
I keep trying to look "Who's online"
But it's broken.
LOL
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 08:05:01 PM »
Is being nosey a sin?
I keep trying to look "Who's online"
But it's broken.
LOL

only if you have bad intentions :)

nah, like so many other things, it's broke
For the [logos-saying-word] word of God [is]alive and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 08:08:20 PM »
99.9% of all settings are stored in the database. So everything done between yesterday and when Karen fixes thing will be lost.


So people if you make lengthy posts it's best to save a copy on your PC so you can repost next week.
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Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 08:09:32 PM »
Is being nosey a sin?
I keep trying to look "Who's online"
But it's broken.
LOL
only if you have bad intentions :)
Half the time my intentions are bad. The other half they are unBiblical..... LOL
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 10:17:34 AM »
Working:
- Who's online
- Profiles
- PM
- Searching

Not working:
- Smilies

ToDo:
- Recent database
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 11:54:17 AM »
Hi Karen, great, thanks.

A really big issue for me personally (and I believe others too) is the ability to click on the link we used to have that said "view/read the most recent posts".  It would give a chronological list of the last 40-50 posts/whatever...now only the most recent 5 or 6 are there,
Hu? It just shows the unread posts. Which can be anything between 0 and 99999
At least that's how it is and was for me.

Do you login from diffrent PCs?
It could be an cookie issue. (not really a forum issue)

Part of the solution is "Show new replies to your posts."
It will list all threads you have posted in and have new replies. Even if "Show unread posts since last visit." shows nothing.
But obviously that only shows posts you participated in.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 11:56:13 AM »
Hi everyone,

I think some of the issues you all mentioned are ironed out.
Hi, Karen.

Aren't all those fixes undone when you restore a more recent backup?
Or are those settings not stored in the database itself?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 12:15:06 PM »
I will try to get the smileys working. They are on the server, but for some reason not connecting here.
Looks like they point to the wrong directory.


Correct path:
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/laughing7.gif



Path the 'smilie selector'points to:
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/Smileys/default/laughing7.gif
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 02:39:20 PM »
Can anyone see avatars? I can't so just wondering if it's just me or the forum? I also can't see the smilies (except for the one WW posted above...)

No smilies.
No avatars.
No group icons like moderator, 500, silver etc

The least of my concern. Post are much more important....
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 04:08:59 PM »
 :laughing7: :icon_king: :icon_queen: :icon_flower: :icon_joker: :thumbsup: :dontknow: :happy3: :icon_jokercolor:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 04:10:25 PM »
 :happy3:

Some of the Smileys are working.

I'm still working on this.

Karen

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2012, 04:15:41 PM »
Hi everyone,

I think some of the issues you all mentioned are ironed out.
Hi, Karen.

Aren't all those fixes undone when you restore a more recent backup?
Or are those settings not stored in the database itself?

Hi White Wings,

The settings for such things as the smileys and many other functions are set via controls in the Admin panels for the forum. It's like a maze of caves, within caves, in the Admin panels. Lots of settings need to be checked and set up. It will just take some time to work through all of them.

Karen

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2012, 04:26:42 PM »
Yeah I know they are set in Admin panel.
But where are the things you configure stored? In a extrenal config file or in the database itself?
If in the database everything will be 'reset' if you upload a more recent backup.
Or is this the most recent backup?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2012, 07:02:01 PM »
From Him and through Him and to Him are all things.

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 06:27:41 AM »
I believe someone sent me a PM.  Apparently my PM isn't working, as I can't access it :(.
For the [logos-saying-word] word of God [is]alive and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2012, 08:08:32 AM »
Just sent you a test.

http://tentmaker.org/forum/pm/
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 11:04:50 PM »
I believe someone sent me a PM.  Apparently my PM isn't working, as I can't access it :(.

Sorry, I'm showing another PM in my box but I can't access them. 
For the [logos-saying-word] word of God [is]alive and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2012, 11:54:51 PM »
Mere mortals couldn't either 2 days ago.
I think Karen forgot to change the setting for the admin account.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 04:37:56 PM »
Yeah I know they are set in Admin panel.
But where are the things you configure stored? In a extrenal config file or in the database itself?
If in the database everything will be 'reset' if you upload a more recent backup.
Or is this the most recent backup?

Where are the things configured stored? :dontknow: That is a good question, and I haven't figured it out yet. If they were stored in the database, the settings would not have all had to be redone when the forum was reinstalled with the existing database.

I had a backup from May 18, but, signals must have gotten crossed, since that does not seem to be the database that was installed.

I'm still looking for the Easy button, but, there doesn't seem to be one. 

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 05:01:07 PM »
I never used this forum software. (only vBulletin 10 years ago)
I (vaguely) remember only the site Admin and database name is configured in an config file.
The rest is inside the database. All other files are 'software'

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If they were stored in the database, the settings would not have all had to be redone when the forum was reinstalled with the existing database.
Very good point
Assuming all tables are backed up.
I really hope you are right that the settings are stored outside the database.
Otherwise, to put it bluntly, you are wasting your time....
Simply because the other database will overwrite every single fix you did the last week.
From my, the user, pov it's great to see extra functionality each day.
From your pov it's best to install a more recent database ASAP and that way be sure you aren't wasting your time. The database install has to be done anyway so...
Well you hold the keys to the kingdom....


Just my 2 cents...
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Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 06:00:51 PM »
These settings are stored in the Settings.php file in your SMF directory. The format of each option is as follows:

$setting_name = 'value';::# Optional comment.

Where value has any quotation marks (') or backslash (\) inside it escaped with a backslash (' => \' and \ => \\.) The file must also begin with <?php and end with ?>. The file used in the installation package is a good template.

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1 $boarddir
2 $boardurl
3 $cookiename
4 $db_error_send
5 $db_last_error
6 $db_name
7 $db_passwd
8 $db_persist
9 $db_prefix
10 $db_show_debug
11 $db_server
12 $db_user
13 $language
14 $maintenance
15 $mbname
16 $mmessage
17 $mtitle
18 $mysql_set_mode
19 $sourcedir
20 $webmaster_email
 

$boarddir
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: the directory in which Settings.php is located.
This sets the directory where SMF is installed. It's used to locate files like Settings.php, SSI.php, agreement.txt, and the Packages directory. No trailing slash (/) should be added.

$boardurl
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'http://127.0.0.1/smf'
The URL to your forum's folder, without the trailing slash (/). This URL is used throughout SMF - all dynamically generated URLs (except those with their own settings) are based on this setting.

$cookiename
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'SMFCookie10'
Name of the cookie to set for authentication purposes. Changing this value will cause everyone to be logged out.

$db_error_send
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 1
Enables (1) or disables (0) sending an email to the Administrator on a database connection or query error. This function is limited to sending only one email per every three days. The email address it sends to is configured by the $webmaster_email setting.

$db_last_error
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: (not set)
A variable, which stores the Timestamp of the last database connection error. This is not really a setting (and isn't set by default), but merely an internally used variable to prevent multiple emails from being sent after a connection error. See also the $db_error_send setting.

$db_name
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'smf'
The name of the database. This database must exist, and must have SMF's tables and data in it.

$db_passwd
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value:
Password for access to the database server. Note that this is always linked to the WHERE ID_BOARD NOT IN (14,11);u=3916| username set in the $db_user setting.

$db_persist
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 0
Enable (1) or disable (0) persistent connections for connecting to the database. A persistent connection keeps the connection active to increase performance (although in many cases the gain is minimal.) If you aren't on a dedicated server, this may cause you problems with your host. Please see PHP's documentation on persistent database connections for more information.

$db_prefix
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'smf_'
The prefix of the database tables. During installation, SMF will add about 30 tables to the database. Each of which will use the prefix that was configured during the installation procedure. For example, if the prefix is 'smf_', the tables will be given the names 'smf_attachments', 'smf_boards', 'smf_messages', etc. If you want to install another Forum or software package in the same database, simply chose a different prefix, and the tables won't interfere with each other.

$db_show_debug
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: (not set)
If set, enables query debug features -- full text of SQL queries will be displayed before execution. These are very useful for debugging purposes.

$db_server
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'localhost'
Hostname or IP of the database server. If the database server is on the same machine as the webserver, it's safe (and considerably more efficient!) to use 'localhost' for this setting. Otherwise, either an IP address or a web address (hostname) is required. Note that database specifically requires the hostname connecting to the database server to be granted permission to connect.

$db_user
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'root'
Name of the database user connecting to the database.

$language
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'english'
The default language file set for the forum. This language will be used for all guests (unless they choose otherwise) and members who have not chosen a language in their profile. SMF will always try to get the language file of the language set by a user first. If a language file for some reason cannot be found in the user's language files, it will fall back to the file corresponding to this setting.

    Tip: Adding ?language=xyz; after index.php allows guests to choose a language, if it is installed.

$maintenance
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 0
Sets whether the Forum is in maintenance mode or not.

0 Maintainance mode off. The Forum can be used normally.
1 Maintainance mode on. Only administrators can use the Forum as usual. Other users get a 'this Forum is in maintenance mode' message. The database may still be accessed for user authentication (so as to tell if the Member is an administrator.)
2 Maintainance mode on, full force. Freezes the forum. No one can access it, not even administrators. This setting will leave the database untouched (as far as the SMF Forum is concerned) but cannot be set from the administration center. This setting is used by SMF's upgrade tool to ensure an undisturbed upgrade.



$mbname
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'My Community'
The name of your forum. This is used in the title and footer of your Forum pages, as the name of the sender of email notifications and on the footer of each email message sent by your forum.

$mmessage
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'Okay faithful users...we\'re attempting to restore an older backup of the database...news will be posted once we\'re back!'
Description of why the Forum is in maintenance mode. Is shown when the $maintenance setting is set to 1 or 2.

$mtitle
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'Maintenance Mode'
Title for the Maintenance Mode message. Is only shown when the $maintenance setting is set to 1 or 2.

$mysql_set_mode
Version: SMF 1.1+
Default value: (not set)
If this is set to true (not in quotes) SMF will automatically set the sql_mode and AUTOCOMMIT to those options which it expects. It's best to have this off, if possible, because SMF only expects the defaults, and changing them is another query per page view.

$sourcedir
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: The Sources sub directory of the path Settings.php is located in.
The path to where the source files are stored. No trailing slash (/) is allowed.

$webmaster_email
Version: SMF 1.0+
Default value: 'noreply@myserver.com'
Email address from which to send all Topic notifications, Personal message notifications, newsletters, etc. This address also receives database error warnings, should they occur.



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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 07:07:28 PM »
Sending PMs

Karen,

Several things are wrong when sending a PM.

a] No smilies.
b] When using Quote the message is quoted but the reciepent is blank.
c] When using Reply things are as before.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: The Forum
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »
Just an FYI.  Got another PM, and I can't access my PMs.  That's 3 I can't read.  If you need me, email me.  Thanks.
For the [logos-saying-word] word of God [is]alive and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.