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Offline bushy

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2014, 09:08:43 PM »
I think this is, to a certain extent, quibbling. Using the term UR does not make someone 'denominational". It is an identifying acronym for a scriptural truth. Whether or not a person decides to use that acronym does not make them more or less  free from the roots of sectarianism, which is, to put simply- divisiveness. One person uses the acronym as a communication point for the truth that Micah has stated about the salvation of all. Another person thinks it is too much "the label" to be effective in communicating the truth. I say so what, let each person be free from the judgments of others and go about their business- the Father's business :o)

 :iagree: This is just how I feel about this part of the thread. But other than that there are other things being discussed here that I am enjoying a lot.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2014, 12:50:00 AM »
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2014, 01:18:08 AM »
I think this is, to a certain extent, quibbling. Using the term UR does not make someone 'denominational". It is an identifying acronym for a scriptural truth. Whether or not a person decides to use that acronym does not make them more or less  free from the roots of sectarianism, which is, to put simply- divisiveness. One person uses the acronym as a communication point for the truth that Micah has stated about the salvation of all. Another person thinks it is too much "the label" to be effective in communicating the truth. I say so what, let each person be free from the judgments of others and go about their business- the Father's business :o)

 :iagree: This is just how I feel about this part of the thread. But other than that there are other things being discussed here that I am enjoying a lot.

I can agree as well[very much so] with EW, still in my opinion, it is not the believer who embraces what is called here UR, it is the religious-theological and even the social culture system that dominates the labeled box or the box labeled. So far I believe(imo) UR is the least belief denominated. I just don't find the closeness of denomination comfortable. But this is just me, personally. :Peace2:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2014, 07:30:18 PM »
I think this is, to a certain extent, quibbling. Using the term UR does not make someone 'denominational". It is an identifying acronym for a scriptural truth. Whether or not a person decides to use that acronym does not make them more or less  free from the roots of sectarianism, which is, to put simply- divisiveness. One person uses the acronym as a communication point for the truth that Micah has stated about the salvation of all. Another person thinks it is too much "the label" to be effective in communicating the truth. I say so what, let each person be free from the judgments of others and go about their business- the Father's business :o)

Quibbling.  :doh:
I was just thinking the same thing. :Chinscratch:
Now there's an accurate label. :laugh:

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2014, 08:23:58 PM »
Quibbling.  :doh:
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2014, 08:25:49 PM »
"Quibbling" or "squabbling" or whatever, I can't help think it's funny to hear "UR" called a denomination. Unitarian Universalists are the only denomination I can think of labeled "universalists," but they tell you themselves that they're not exclusively Christian. I think "UR" is just the description of one verse of scripture that shows the scope of God's grace through Christ's sacrifice on the cross, and that's Colossians 1:20. I don't think those who believe it are trapped in a denomination bound by creeds like church folks are. I understand the desire not to be in a denomination, but I think it's unnecessary to worry about that with "UR" because I think there are some folks who believe it that are in various real denominations. Despite the fact that most of us here agree about "UR," you can see by the diverse opinions on this forum that we all disagree about other things. I think that's probably why there is no real "UR" denomination that is exclusively Christian and may be why the Universalist Church thought it needed to merge with the Unitarians. I personally don't want to belong to any church, denominational or non-denominational, because I think they're all based on Roman creeds that contradict scripture. I prefer to just study an accurate translation of scripture for spiritual edification and communicate with fellow believers wherever whenever, often here on this forum, and, being raised in the Roman Catholic Church and then spending some time in the Protestant Church, I'm familiar with denominational and non-denominational churches. 

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2014, 10:27:14 PM »
Not sorry for my OP, but I am glad all the quibbling has ceased. I learned that believing a truth such as ......
2Co 5:18  And the all things are of God, who reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and did give to us the ministration of the reconciliation,
2Co 5:19  how that God was in Christ--a world reconciling to Himself, not reckoning to them their trespasses; and having put in us the word of the reconciliation,
2Co 5:20  in behalf of Christ, then, we are ambassadors, as if God were calling through us, we beseech, in behalf of Christ, `Be ye reconciled to God;'
2Co 5:21  for him who did not know sin, in our behalf He did make sin, that we may become the righteousness of God in him.

Is not a denomination but an admonition. :dsunny:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2014, 11:56:34 PM »
Everybody has a different perspective, brother, but I understand why you resist denominations. I think they exist in the church because it is not the body of Christ. I think denominations must sadden the Lord who told us we are one.

"And I have given them the glory which Thou has given Me, that they may be one, according as We are One" (John 17:22)

"thus we, who are many, are one body in Christ, yet individually members of one another" (Romans 12:5)

"For we, who are many, are one bread, one body, for we all are partaking of the one bread." (1 Corinthians 10:17

"For even as the body is one and has many members, yet all the members of the one body, being many, are one body, thus also is the Christ." (1 Corinthians 12:12)

"in Whom there is no Jew nor yet Greek, there is no slave nor yet free, there is no male and female, for you all are one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28)

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2014, 09:24:04 PM »
Quibble, quibble, quibble.

quib·ble
ˈkwibəl/Submit
noun
1.
a slight objection or criticism.
"the only quibble about this book is the price"
synonyms:   criticism, objection, complaint, protest, argument, exception, grumble, grouse, cavil; More
2.
archaic
a play on words; a pun.
verb
verb: quibble; 3rd person present: quibbles; past tense: quibbled; past participle: quibbled; gerund or present participle: quibbling
1.
argue or raise objections about a trivial matter.

Last thing I would want to do is quibble about quibbling ;o)
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2014, 04:17:46 AM »
Thank goodness :trampoline:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2014, 05:32:47 AM »
The word "quibble" is starting to sound funny.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2014, 05:40:26 AM »
Yes, it's a verbal dribble... :laughing7:
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2014, 06:54:17 AM »
I like to scribble "quibble" while whittling a fiddle.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2014, 06:28:18 PM »
Of what do you whittle a fiddle? :dontknow:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2014, 06:42:54 PM »
A single block of wood

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« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2014, 06:46:47 PM »
Now where is the ryhme in that riddle? :rolllol:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2014, 10:04:49 PM »
Let's quibble about the fiddle riddle.  :violin:
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« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2014, 11:21:13 PM »
I'm too busy giving my Tribbles vittles to nibble.

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« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2014, 11:25:42 PM »
Won't even try to settle the quibble with a kibble nibble for vittles cause it seems like a patch of nettles. How'd I do? :laugh:
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2014, 11:30:26 PM »
 :laughing7:

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2014, 12:14:24 AM »
Won't even try to settle the quibble with a kibble nibble for vittles cause it seems like a patch of nettles. How'd I do? :laugh:

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2014, 12:23:51 AM »
I think you're all doing great with your improvised quibbling. I'm just being an amused spectator though because I've gotten to the point in my life that I have a hard enough time just trying to talk straight without accidentally tripping all over my tongue.

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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2014, 12:26:04 AM »
Dribbling.
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Re: I am not UR
« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2014, 12:29:55 AM »
I haven't gotten that bad yet though.