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jabcat:
Gary received this;


"1 Thes 4: 13
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are
asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

Who is it that has 'no hope' and what does 'no hope' mean?

Matthew 12: 32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven
him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven
him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

No forgiveness in the world to come? How does that line up with universal
salvation or reconciliation?

Your teaching is heretical. You do great violence to the scriptures because
you do not accept God as He is. "

Molly:
Again, I don't think it is something that can be understood without first understanding that there are different ages.

No hope--to wake them from the dead--in this age--because it is not their time, yet.  You might as well try to make tulips bloom in winter.

But, we have hope because we believe in God's plan and that Christ is the resurrection.

The ones who don't know this have no hope in their hearts.

Jesus says, wipe the dust from your feet and move on.  I think any of us who have tried to tell someone about Christ who just doesn't want to hear it is aware of this problem.

No forgiveness in the world to come, but we know that there are 'ages' in front of us.

World without end! [aion aion]


Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen Eph 3:21

Ross:
Well said Molly.
I Thess also has a cross reference to Eph 2;12  " That you were in that season separate from Christ, alienated from the citizenship of Israel and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and godless in the world;
BUT just now in Christ Jesus, you who at one time WERE afar off were made near in the blood of Christ; "

The verses in Eph 2 leading up to that statement are truly awesome.
e.g  " That He might point out in the on-coming ages the surpassing riches of His favour in graciousness UPON US IN CHRIST JESUS."

Molly:
Yes.

So he tells us, You were in that season separated from Christ.....having no hope....

Here we see hope has to do with our separation or closeness to Christ.

We also see that separation from Christ means we are "strangers from the covenant..."

So we have no rights, no citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel, because of separation from Christ.  Thus we have no hope.

But, it is only for a season here.


But, the strangers, that is us, have become the sons of the living God.  That is why God tells his people to be kind and loving to the strangers living in their midst.

Because we, too, were strangers at one time--without hope.



Leviticus 19:34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

WhiteWings:
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/discussions_universal_salvation/the_unpardonable_sin_or_unforgivable_sin_6653.msg72948.html#msg72948
The Unpardonable Sin
Are Some Sins Unpardonable?
The Unforgivable Sin
It Shall Not Be Forgiven

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