One thing I strongly believe is that only people who are insecure about what they believe refuse to hear other viewpoints. We can do nothing against the truth, only for it, so if I believe something, why feel threatened by a different viewpoint? I notice this a lot with the attitude of Christians towards Mormons, for an example. I have heard many Christians talking about being rude and hateful towards Mormons, and gloating about it, as if they have stood up for the truth by slamming the door in their face for preaching "another gospel", but why should we fear them? Would it not be better to invite them in and speak the true gospel to them? Would it not be better to show them some love, rather than act as though even letting them set foot in the door will cause us to rush to the altar of Joseph Smith?
I find them in the first
of the seven churches and Ephesus , means "permitted" in Rev 2
I see the 7 churches as the race that even we are running , as Paul taught in the WORD and said he wrangled with the beasts of Ephesus
, being beastly natured men [carnal babes in Christ ]and your sins are forgiven you for his names sake ..
As spiritually symbolic of the beasts hating the whore [ Babylon ] God has put in in their minds to hate the whore of the earth and queen of heaven , being the lies eating her flesh and burning her with fire
again symbolic of the tongues of fire speaking against them and devouring one another
God permits this but also has the warnings
To the Church in Ephesus
2 "To the angel of the church
in Ephesus write: messenger as" a star" in Jesus "right hand of power " being a light in the darkness of ignorance that covers the earth in what is the Will , desire of God in His Glory" LIGHT OF HIM "
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right
hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands
2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3 You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.
4 Yet I hold this against you
: You have forsaken the love you had at first.
5 Consider how far you have fallen!
Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
6 But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
I know there is history about this" time " and people as examples
but we also must learn to discern the "times " and peoples as "nothing new under the sun " exactly the same natures and waring as the times of old
Gods Word is perpetual unchanging , meaning occurring repeatedly so frequent as to seem endless and uninterrupted....
To me more as signs and seasons of the same "exact things", that has not changed in human nature from the beginning
But Gods Word has not changed towards this exact dealing with us as repeated over and over again , as they progress individually
The lampstand removal to me means the Holy OIL OR HOLY SPIRIT [5 wise and 5 foolish virgins] in the kingdom , from them being that they have fallen from grace
The grace is the unmerited favor of the Lord by the LORD JESUS CHRIST AS the tree of Life being the LOVE and rooted and grounded in HIM , and I see them as to going back to LAW
as the tree of knowledge of good and evil , which is the ministration of death
He who lives by the Sword dies by the Sword /WORD OF GOD ..
and there is the other 6 churches as progression and the end , last one is warned not to become lukewarm/rejected after all the revelation in JESUS CHRIST
This has been my comfort and only sharing my own personal view , what I consider kingdom "treasures " and do believe the Holy Spirit is truly teaching me
If you see this as being deceived and want no part of it , it not my place to judge anyones faith
, The WORD judges us all
, for real
WE ARE JUST WITNESSES TO HIS GLORY and the work of His hands The rewards are with Him in those seven eyes " Spirits " of the 7 churches
also the correction by those whom he loves and chastens and corrects His eyes are on them always