To say that Paul sinned against his will is to say that sin renders you unconscious and takes over you like it's some ominous evil that we have no power over. When Paul sinned, he chose to. And it bothered him because he knew better, but still CHOSE to do it
Nathan that's not according to scripture, here reread them
14For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. No more I that do it but sin that dwelleth in me.
18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Now here the crucial part Paul says for TO WILL IS PRESENT with me
, obviously Paul did not choose to sin for he goes on to say For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do
20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Can you not see that Paul refuses to blame himself here for his sin? But lays the blame squarely where it belongs on the law of sin within him.
21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Paul say that when he would do good,
Paul wanted to do good Nathan but the law of sin held him captive.
22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Do you see this law in his members warred against the law of his mind and by that law of sin took him captive against his will and caused him to sin.
24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Paul sums it up this way So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Nathan I am not picking at you brother just trying to point out something you might not have seen before.
That's why I think understanding John the Baptist's proclamation about Jesus taking away the sin of the world is so profound. It's because in the world, sin still manifests . .but to those who are in Christ . .the sin has no affect . .the power of it has no affect because GRACE ABOUNDS. And the sooner we get our attention off of the falling down, and turn to the Christ who resurrects . .the sooner we'll get into the freedom of life and reproduction rather than doom and gloom of reproof.
Nathan what you see as doom and gloom of reproof I see as liberty in Christ, knowing my sins because of the law of sin in me are NOT imputed unto me, the only sins that are imputed unto us are the sins of wilful disobedience, thus sin was in the world BEFORE the law but was not imputed unto us UNTIL after the DISOBEDIENCE of Adam. That liberty brother, knowing I am only responsible for the sins I wilfully commit.
I pursue patterns in Scripture . . .if I see the pattern, I can then understand the principle. The pattern that I see with this in Scripture is clearly with the children of Israel in the land of Goshen . . .the plagues came and they were in the middle of it all, but God protected them from all of it. Noah . . .the rains came, the flood manifested, and Noah, being in the middle of it . . .was protected by the ark of Christ. So . . .my spirit is in the center of my flesh, my flesh is subject to the natural . . I get colds, the flu, back aches . . .my bones break and my flesh bleeds . . .but regardless of what my natural body goes through . .regardless of what my outer man experiences . . .my inner man is hid in Christ.