willieH: Hi Paul...
No "puppets" mentioned OR alluded to, in the WORD... so this term is completely irrelevant...
I am not using the term to describe what scripture says. I am using the term to describe how people are using scripture without using the term and believe they are not.
The term is still IRRELEVANT... as I noted, my arms and legs are alive, and are NOT "PUPPETS" even though they ARE part of My body, and fully cooperate with the WILL of my "head"... CHRIST
is the HEAD
of His "BODY"
which members WE ...ARE... (exemplified in the creation of the human body or any other created body - animal, insect, fish, whatever)... and, just as the members of created "bodies" respond to the WILL of the HEAD, and are HELPLESS and can do NOTHING without it, ...so are the members of HIS BODY, responding to the decisions made by CHRIST
... not by their supposed and UNBIBLICAL, "free will"...
Furthermore... we are INSTRUCTED to do the WILL of GOD... and it is our DESTINY as well... so WHY not be AMIDST it even NOW, Paul?
Adam and Eve were instructed not to eat of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Okay... then you acknowledge that they were INSTRUCTED, yet failed to follow that INSTRUCTION, and thereby justify you own lack? The WILL of GOD is to be done exclusively in the HEAVENLIES and
IN EARTH as well... (Matt 6:10)
Adam & Eve could not DISOBEY the INSTRUCTION unless the HEAD gave them the power to do so... (John 15:5)
Without the HEAD, the "body" can do NOTHING
Not fight to hold on to it...
No need to worry about not fighting to hold on to it because if you fight to hold on to it, according to some, then God is the one who is orchestrating them to fight to hold on to it.
Nice appropriate observation Paul... I stand corrected... Men fight by means of MISchoosing, which is resultant of a WILL in bondage to itself, which is also ordained by GOD to be so... [He concludes ALL in UNBELIEF (Rom 11:32 )
... whatsoever is NOT of FAITH is SIN (Rom 14:23)
Men devise (choose), but the result of their "choices" are according to the DECLARATION of GOD...
The words "I" and "OUR" in this sentence, are "SELF-ish" words... SELF desiring a degree of CONTROL and seeking to be OUTSIDE the WILL and/or CONTROL of GOD... for the satisfaction of the agenda of SELF... Which is contrary to the ETERNAL which is destined to be within the WILL of GOD ...ONLY...
Nope, "I" used the word "I" and "our" because thats how "I" see scripture right now, nothing more than that and your assertion doesn't change anything.
I do not speak to convince you of anything... rather, I pose opposition to what you "see" in Scripture now... thereby giving others a different "vision" of it...
When you post , you are posting what "You" believe scripture is saying and not using the word "I" changes nothing concerning "that".
As I just stated, it is not my agenda to change what you believe... you are more than welcome to your observations... If and when words I post are in opposition of what you believe... you are welcome to take it or, ...leave it, ...no sweat!!
For me Paul... it is not about YOU and it is not about ME, it is about GOD... I do not care in the slightest who turns out to be correct... For we are ALL VEILED in some aspects... and THAT
dear brother, is HIS decision! ...I can live with that, can you?
...hope so bro!