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Offline micah7:9

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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2010, 09:34:32 PM »
I dont believe Jesus walked through the door of the closed room, He just was there
I must stand with that reasoning.
And in answer to the queery "I think his presence would be known if he was already there" Thinktank
 Joh 5:13  But, the healed one, knew not, who, it was; for, Jesus, had turned aside, a multitude, being in the place. (Rotherham)
Joh 5:13  But he that was healed had not known who he is, for Jesus did move away, a multitude being in the place. (YLT)
Joh 5:13  And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place. (KJV)
I contend no one "knew His presence left."

I looked up the two words "glorified and body" and you will not find a "glorified body" in the Bible and you will only find "spiritual body" and that only one time 1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


Just wondering about all those appearance, and I am not saying it is not so, but as He appeared all those times, how else was He to appear but the same way He had appeared during all His time walking with man?

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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2010, 09:56:00 PM »



Because in another Psalm also He says, "Thou wilt not give up Thy Holy One to undergo decay."
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2010, 10:12:10 PM »
 :cloud9: The Word (that is eternal and Spirit) that was MADE flesh, HAD to appear to them in the only body they knew Him in up to that point, because the HG had not been given yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified. My  :2c:
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2010, 10:33:23 PM »
Quote from: Cardinal on November 23, 2010, 10:12:10 PM
:cloud9: The Word (that is eternal and Spirit) that was MADE flesh, HAD to appear to them in the only body they knew Him in up to that point, because the HG had not been given yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified. My  :2c:
The Word was MADE flesh Amen.
What body did they know him in after that?   
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2010, 10:35:36 PM »
I think the spirit you speak of is within us, the kingdom is within. However  I see a big difference between the spirit we communicate with and the resurected Jesus that the disciples spoke with. There are also many scriptures that say that Jesus will no longer be with them, for he goes to the father, but fear not for I will send you another. There are also parables where he will return. So what I have been saying is that Jesus has a resurected spiritual body, that we can touch and feel and converse with, just like we converse with our familly. So I believe from the scriptures that the body that left the tomb, was raised from corruptuble flesh into inccoruptuble spiritual body, but the spirit within us the kingdom is of another kind, not so glorious, for few of us can handle the true anointing of Jesus Christ, it would destroy us, just as Paul was nearly destroyed on the road to damascus.
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2010, 11:12:44 PM »
 :cloud9: Yes, but it says the fulness of the Godhead was in Him bodily, and of that same fulness have we all received. That's what the manifestation of Jesus Christ is about (Romans 8). He is being progressively revealed in us, from generation to generation, more and more in individuals as we decrease so that He can increase. This is why we have to receive new wineskins (glorified bodies) just as He did, because our current ones have "spots" and "wrinkles", and therefore subject to "bursting".

The revelations that we are receiving from the SPIRIT, is us being changed from glory (terrestrial or fleshly) to glory (celestial or heavenly), where mortality is swallowed up of immortality, culminating with the manifestation of the sons of God, . My  :2c: Blessings...
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2010, 11:20:28 PM »
Quote from: Cardinal on November 23, 2010, 11:12:44 PM
:cloud9: Yes, but it says the fulness of the Godhead was in Him bodily, and of that same fulness have we all received. That's what the manifestation of Jesus Christ is about (Romans 8). He is being progressively revealed in us, from generation to generation, more and more in individuals as we decrease so that He can increase. This is why we have to receive new wineskins (glorified bodies) just as He did, because our current ones have "spots" and "wrinkles", and therefore subject to "bursting".

The revelations that we are receiving from the SPIRIT, is us being changed from glory (terrestrial or fleshly) to glory (celestial or heavenly), where mortality is swallowed up of immortality, culminating with the manifestation of the sons of God, . My  :2c: Blessings...

Glorified bodies?
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2010, 11:28:33 PM »
Quote from: thinktank on November 23, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
I think the spirit you speak of is within us, the kingdom is within. However  I see a big difference between the spirit we communicate with and the resurected Jesus that the disciples spoke with. There are also many scriptures that say that Jesus will no longer be with them,
I that visible form.

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for he goes to the father,
Who is omnipresent.
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2010, 11:33:50 PM »
Do you want a glorified upgraded body micah?

If not fear not. I think that its possible to retains one flesh and blood body, if people are part of the survivors group in the future. For there is a promise in Isiah that all flesh shall come to jerusalem to worship the lord every year to keep the yearly feast.
But first the antichrist spirit must be removed and he that wields it.
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2010, 12:30:11 AM »
1Co 1:29

(ASV)  that no flesh should glory before God.

(CLV) so that no flesh at all should be boasting in God's sight.

(KJV)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

(Rotherham)  So that no flesh should boast before God.

(RYLT-NT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;

(WNT)  to prevent any mortal man from boasting in the presence of God.

(YLT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;

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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2010, 12:33:17 AM »
Flesh = Carnal, in alot of cases of its usage here in these contexts.  Not a garment-vessel of which we move around, and God dwells.
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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2010, 12:42:39 AM »
Quote from: micah7:9 on November 24, 2010, 12:30:11 AM
1Co 1:29

(ASV)  that no flesh should glory before God.

(CLV) so that no flesh at all should be boasting in God's sight.

(KJV)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

(Rotherham)  So that no flesh should boast before God.

(RYLT-NT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;

(WNT)  to prevent any mortal man from boasting in the presence of God.

(YLT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;


Ahhh, so Jesus was no ordinary man!

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Re: ACTS 1:11
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2010, 01:42:28 AM »
Quote from: Beloved Servant on November 24, 2010, 12:42:39 AM
Quote from: micah7:9 on November 24, 2010, 12:30:11 AM
1Co 1:29

(ASV)  that no flesh should glory before God.

(CLV) so that no flesh at all should be boasting in God's sight.

(KJV)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

(Rotherham)  So that no flesh should boast before God.

(RYLT-NT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;

(WNT)  to prevent any mortal man from boasting in the presence of God.

(YLT)  that no flesh may glory before Him;


Ahhh, so Jesus was no ordinary man!

Most certainly!
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